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Report: Sixers may look to trade for Amar’e Stoudemire at this season’s deadline

Aug 20, 2014, 11:17 AM EDT

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Amar’e Stoudemire is entering the final year of his contract with the Knicks, one that will pay him more than $23 million, but is uninsurable due to his history of injuries.

When looking at that extreme level of financial risk along with Stoudemire’s current level of production, it wouldn’t seem to make sense for another team to be interested in acquiring him via trade.

But there is one scenario where something could happen, although it wouldn’t go down for another six months.

From Steve Kyler of Basketball Insiders:

What’s far more likely is that the long rumored Amar’e Stoudemire to Philadelphia deal gets done at the deadline. The Sixers take on Stoudemire’s $23 million salary cap number, which pushes them way over the minimum. They would only owe him roughly 30 percent of his remaining contract, so they’d end up paying him $7 million in cash and likely extract a draft pick or a rookie scale player for their troubles.

Flexibility in the NBA is currency – both figuratively and literally. The 76ers will likely meet the floor; they just are not incentivized in any way to do it before the trade deadline.

This came up in a larger discussion about how the Sixers are well under the minimum amount that teams need to commit in terms of payroll for the upcoming season, but it’s not like there are any penalties if that dollar amount doesn’t ultimately get spent; all that happens to a team that doesn’t meet the league’s salary floor is that the remaining dollars get split up among the existing players on the roster once the season is finished.

The deal would make sense for both sides from a financial perspective, but could ultimately depend on New York’s place in the standings at the time.

If Stoudemire is healthy and a contributing member of the rotation, and if the Knicks have a realistic shot at making the playoffs, New York will likely keep Stoudemire on the books for the remainder of the season.

If things have gone south by then, however, then this seems like something that could certainly take place.

  1. willking9 - Aug 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    Blowing the amnesty of Chauncey months after picking up his option was beyond awful. The Knicks woes can be directly traced to their lack of flexibility based on his horrible contract which he only played up to for the first half season he was in NY.

    • Mr. Wright 212 - Aug 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM

      I hated that move both for the timing and the fact that he was heading into his final year — ALONG WITH who the money was then used on; a whiny dinosaur who we couldn’t wait to get rid of, sending him to Dallas.

    • cruzan80 - Aug 20, 2014 at 4:23 PM

      “Blowing the amnesty of Chauncey months after picking up his option was beyond awful.”

      Everyone wants to be Captain Hindsight.

      First, the Knicks had until May 2, 2011 to pick up the option for Chauncey Billups or pay a $3.7 million buyout. Carlos Arroyo was arguably the best available free agent PG that summer. On what was a then Mike D’Antoni ran team, your gonna pay a PG like Billups to leave???

      Second, The end of the lockout came with two things that changed the game for the Knicks. First, Tyson Chandler shocked the everyone and decided to leave the Dallas Mavericks following their championship season. Then the league introduced the amnesty provision, allowing teams to rid themselves of one contract from the salary cap. The lockout was the reason for the months between transactions. They didn’t sign Chandler & amnesty Billups until December 10, 2011…a week after the lockout ended.

      New York had two needs, and only one could be filled. They could either keep 34 year old Billups as the PG or amnesty him and have just enough to sign Chandler as the defensive leader they needed. Here’s were people like yourself get ahead of yourselves. Just amnesty Amare right????
      Stoudemire was just signed the summer before & coming off of an MVP-caliber season. Knicks banked on Stoudemire keeping up that level of play and avoiding significant injuries. It’s a risk that hasn’t paid off, but it was a risk worth taking. Also, amnestying Stoudemire rather than Billups only would have saved $5 million, which really isn’t that much in the NBA. To put things in perspective, the Knicks would still be flirting with the luxury tax had Amare been amnestied.

      My point is in hindsight…everyone can sound like a genius. The FACT of the matter is Amare could’ve very well not get hurt ever again. Nobody can predict injury.

      • ProBasketballPundit - Aug 20, 2014 at 4:55 PM

        Amare’s injury history and knee problems are so well documented that his contract couldn’t be insured. That doesn’t happen very often in the NBA. Don’t need hindsight to keep an amnesty in your back pocket for that kind of guy.

      • cruzan80 - Aug 20, 2014 at 5:55 PM

        @ probasketballpundit

        “Don’t need hindsight to keep an amnesty in your back pocket for that kind of guy.”

        Except the amnesty clause didn’t even exist until the end of the lockout. Again, they picked Billups option months before the lockout even begun.

        Billups was a 35 year PG who had just torn his achilles tendon. Amare was a 28 year PF coming off one of his best seasons ever & his first as a Knick.

        Again, its real easy to say TODAY what the Knicks “should’ve” done…but none of you that smart 3 years ago.

      • cruzan80 - Aug 20, 2014 at 5:59 PM

        @ probasketballpundit

        Tell me how exactly would you sell to your fans & coaches that you have decided to amnesty your All-Star PF who’s coming off a MVP caliber season because we THINK he MIGHT get injured again even though he just played & started in 81 games just the season before???

  2. cbking05 - Aug 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    How many great years did this guy really have?

    • zackd2 - Aug 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM

      He has career averages of 22.3 and 9 in his career, so he’s had quiet a few great years. He does take a hit because he lacks defense.

      • cbking05 - Aug 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM

        Is his “long” career measured in years or games played?

      • asimonetti88 - Aug 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM

        “Is his “long” career measured in years or games played?”

        Both. He has played 12 years and 735 games. The average NBA players lasts 5 seasons, which is about 400 games. His career is long by both measures.

  3. Reggie's Bush - Aug 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    Why would the Knicks give a draft pick or young player to send away Stoudemire? They can just wait out the season at this point

    • 88heatnation - Aug 20, 2014 at 1:16 PM

      Exactly

    • controlledchaos123 - Aug 20, 2014 at 1:31 PM

      Yeah, I was kind of wondering the same thing. Why would they just jettison him along with a pick to save a total of $7 million for the last few months of the season? It’s not as if they’d be signing someone at that point. Unless it’s a luxury tax scenario, which I’m not certain of but don’t I think they are over it.

    • tomasekradek - Aug 21, 2014 at 3:41 AM

      Man, these are Knicks we’re talking about

  4. patfic5 - Aug 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    Acquire injured player…..fits Phillys scheme so far….

    • Mr. Wright 212 - Aug 20, 2014 at 12:26 PM

      When was the last time he was injured?

      • mogogo1 - Aug 20, 2014 at 3:01 PM

        Easier to come up with when he was last healthy. He played all 82 games his last year in Phoenix and 78 in his first year in New York (though he was banged up for quite a few of those appearances, as I recall). It’s been 47, 25 and 69 in the three years since then.

      • eugenesaxe1 - Aug 20, 2014 at 4:42 PM

        What time did he get out of bed today?

      • rushbacker - Aug 21, 2014 at 12:23 AM

        Always?

  5. 1509lucky - Aug 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    Sam continues to impress me with playing the “Long Game” gotta love it!

    • spursareold - Aug 20, 2014 at 12:09 PM

      June 2019 – Philly drafts injured Kansas SF Rasule Bagwanana. Sam Hinkie says “Just a few more years, fans”.

  6. arb927 - Aug 20, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    They’ll release him right away and just take the draft pick that comes along with it

  7. cruzan80 - Aug 20, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    I know I’m probably in the minority here but I’m expecting this upcoming season to be one of Amare’s best.

    This is the first summer since he signed with the Knicks that has been completely void of a surgery, minor procedure or rehabbing from a surgery or minor procedure. All he’s done since the Knicks season ended is train.

    His game has evolved throughout his career & is no longer reliant upon just his athleticism. He’s developed a reliable jump shot & as effective low post game as well. We saw how big of an impact he had on the team once the minute restriction was lifted & he was inserted into the starting lineup for the final 22 games of the season. They went 16-6.

    When healthy…Amare is good for 20 & 8. He’s always been a smart player & while he’s obviously no longer worth his current contract due to all his knee issues but it would be in the Knicks best interest to hold on to him as they can benefit greatly from a healthy Amare. It’s a win/win situation for the Knicks as it pertains to Amare. If he’s healthy, they’ll have a PF who’s averaging around 20 points & 8 rebounds per contest. If he’s hurt again, his contract expires at season’s end & puts them in perfect position to make solid pursuits in free agency next summer.

  8. doctorfootball - Aug 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    “and likely extract a draft pick or a rookie scale player for their troubles”

    Someone please explain why the Knicks would essentially pay the Sixers to take Amar’e by giving them a draft pick or rookie scale player? If the Sixers want payment in return, wouldn’t the Knicks be better off just to keep him til season’s end?

  9. Mr. Wright 212 - Aug 20, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    Nope. If you didn’t trade for him when we were maneuvering to make a run at LeBron, don’t try to get him after he’s putting up 17 and 8 while healthy so that you can wipe your books clean of the contract in July. It’s stuff like this that makes me hate certain teams.

  10. mungman69 - Aug 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    NOTHING has happened yet, calm down.

    Amare had some great seasons in Arizona. Just not many folks saw him play.

  11. 76ersdoubletank - Aug 20, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    I can’t see the Knicks doing this just to save a little money. I can totally see the Sixers doing this.

    • sixerstrong - Aug 20, 2014 at 3:21 PM

      Of course the Sixers would do it. They would also immediately buy him out like they did with Granger last year, and Amare will immediately become the guy that everyone wants to round out their roster going into the playoffs.

  12. spyder9669 - Aug 20, 2014 at 1:34 PM

    Not only did he play 735 regular season games…he played in roughly 20 playoff series, most of which he was regularly putting up 30 a game…ask Tim Duncan. Don’t cry in New York just because you got the injured version of Amare. He wanted to come there when NOBODY did. Show some respect. It’s no wonder your team has been mediocre for years.

  13. billsfanaddict - Aug 20, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Dolan and the CAA are no longer in charge ya know, right?
    The Knicks w{sh}ouldnt give away a huge expiring contract [[where they're going into an off-season where they badly need/want it]] AND give a young player/pick… that makes No sense, not sense-for-both, just for philly. So therefore they would be doing that sort of deal to Get a young player/pick back, not give.
    Try Again.

  14. money2long - Aug 20, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    In Phil I trust

  15. mungman69 - Aug 21, 2014 at 1:17 AM

    We all knew that he would get hurt, you could see it coming. Player played in every game the season before so we all knew what would happen and it did.
    JUST KIDDING

    I don’t know the business side much but I do know this, Amare was the BEST power forward in the game for a couple of years. This guy could flat out ball and there was no way the Knicks would let him walk then. The Knicks didn’t use hindsight, they knew what they had but now he’s older and with age come injury

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