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Knicks waive another one of Phil Jackson’s former Lakers

Jul 24, 2014, 1:00 AM EDT

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The Knicks bid to become the Lakers of the  East has hit another roadblock.

In the last five months, New York has waived three of Phil Jackson’s former players from Los Angeles:

Maybe New York will add a fourth player to the list by signing – and eventually waiving – Andrew Bynum.

The Knicks better hope not every Laker circa 2010 has lost his touch. They desperately need Jackson to be on the mark.

  1. livingsacrifice86 - Jul 24, 2014 at 1:06 AM

    What happened to this guy? I thought he had some potential….

    • imakcds - Jul 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM

      PHYSICAL potential unlimited.
      that leaves….??

    • trollaikman8 - Sep 9, 2014 at 12:37 AM

      weed happened.

  2. funkmong - Jul 24, 2014 at 1:24 AM

    He had some game, but honestly, the Lakers’ squad he was on, along with Kobe, made him look better than he was.

  3. Mr. Wright 212 - Jul 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM

    Love how you spent the whole piece making snarky comments.

    • unfly - Jul 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM

      I like PBT but it’s full of snarky, catty, sarcastic writing like this.

  4. cruzan80 - Jul 24, 2014 at 2:50 AM

    Complete non story especially seeing that neither Metta or Brown were even signed by the Jackson regime.

    Other than an opportunity to talk crap about the Knicks…this “story” was a complete waste of a click.

  5. jimeejohnson - Jul 24, 2014 at 2:59 AM

    What are you: some kinda New Yawk hater? I am!

    • cantonbound13 - Jul 24, 2014 at 8:48 AM

      Not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7… Hahahaha!

  6. saint1997 - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:38 AM

    With Calderon, Hardaway Jr, Melo and cap space the Knicks have a chance to do something with this team next summer. A chance. Marc Gasol should be target #1

  7. loungefly74 - Jul 24, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    Shannon…at the vet min…i’m sure the Lakers will take you back!

  8. imakcds - Jul 24, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Look: if Jackson is bringing in all his old players, it’s due to their familiarity with the Triangle.
    Taking that premise one step further, and reinforcing what I’ve said since the day Jackson was signed, the Triangle is most difficult to learn, and the Knicks current roster is filled with players that obviously are going to struggle mightily in that offense.

    • mogogo1 - Jul 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM

      Agreed. But if they do struggle in the triangle it will bring up some tough questions, such as why did Phil re-sign Melo if he isn’t going to take to the triangle? Or, why are they running the triangle when they don’t have the players for it?

      Phil’s biggest challenge is going to be time. New York’s media nor its fans are particularly patient. There are huge expectations for major progress right of the gate. Phil will be branded a failure long before even a 3-year-plan has time to be completed.

    • ernwop64 - Jul 25, 2014 at 8:20 PM

      Its perfect for Melo and Bargiani and JR Smith,it will add structure to their games and add ease to their offense.

      • imakcds - Aug 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM

        I guarantee you JR Smith will NOT be able to comprehend the Triangle.

  9. davidly - Jul 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Had the Lakers kept the team that got trounced by the Mavs together and hired Shaw as coach, they would have contended for another couple of years. The fortunes of the individuals sometimes go the way of the collective — or lack thereof.

    • musician0785 - Jul 24, 2014 at 6:24 PM

      Bynum’s knee collapsed, derek fisher got older, LO was a drug head…Kobe and Pau are like the only guys from those teams still in the league oh and Ariza, and farmar

      • davidly - Jul 25, 2014 at 8:20 AM

        Like I said, their fortunes are easily attributable to their change in atmosphere, especially the poor bas’ard coming off his 6th man award. All players age, no matter where they go, and Bynum’s knees would have been Bynum’s knees either way; it’s not like the Lakers hadn’t already been dealing with that. But don’t forget Barnes, Brown, and Blake, whose aggregate contributions subbing for Bryant and Artest were immediately missed the following season.

    • oasis511 - Jul 25, 2014 at 10:32 AM

      You might want to step back and check your facts. Barnes and Blake did stay on the Lakers and played for them the next season, when they went 7 games in the first round and almost got swept in the second round. Barnes, Blake, Kobe, Bynum, and Gasol were ALL healthy and played in the playoffs that year.

      On the other hand, Shannon Brown signed a three-year deal with Phoenix and was such a disappointment that they traded him after one season, and he was cut by Washington three days after they traded for him.

      Even if they had tried to keep the roster together, you can’t change the fact that they would have gone into 2012 with Andrew Bynum never playing another meaningful game in his career, or 2013 without Kobe being healthy.

      So, I don’t see any evidence that the Lakers would have remained a contender had they kept Shannon Brown and Lamar Odom or promoted Brian Shaw (first-year head coaches don’t always translate, by the way). What happened to them was unavoidable.

      • davidly - Jul 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM

        That’s why I called their contributions aggregate. The point is, Brown’s skillset and athleticism had to be employed in the right way. It’s speaks to the limitations of the player, but at the same time the strength of a system or environment. Odom is a prime example. One can call him a headcase or whatever, and that’s all well-and-good, but the fact is, he was best equipped to make the Lakers better.

        And “not seeing evidence” that they would have remained a contender is nonsensical. You cannot investigate in the absence of that which is needed to present the evidence, so of course it’s just debate.

        Still, either they would have remained at the level they were at, or they wouldn’t have. I think that Shaw would have re-infused the energy that they seemed to lose throughout that season. It may have been one too many for Jackson, and his chosen successor would have been opportune, in my opinion.

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