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Rumor: Sixers have ‘strong interest’ in Cavaliers guard Dion Waiters

Jul 23, 2014, 12:55 PM EDT

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One of the more interesting aspects of the Cavaliers inching closer to trading for Kevin Love will be to see what their roster ultimately looks like when all is said and done.

Cleveland has some promising pieces already in place, and the most interesting of them all might be Dion Waiters — still on his rookie scale contract for two more seasons, and a player who some around the league have said will one day be every bit as good as Kyrie Irving, who just inked a max contract extension and is already a two-time All-Star.

Add in the reported problems between the two that seemed to be somewhat ongoing last season, and it’s worth wondering if Waiters might be available in trade, especially if one of the rumored third teams in the deal ends up expressing an above average level of interest.

From Sam Amico of Fox Sports Ohio:

On top of all that, there are league-wide whispers of a third team perhaps getting involved in a potential Cavs-Wolves deal, whispers of the 76ers possessing a strong interest in Cavs guard Dion Waiters, whispers of another major transaction on the way. Yeah. Unreal.

Waiters being involved in trade rumors is nothing new, and in fact, it went on at multiple points throughout last season. And it’s worth noting that just because a team has an interest in a player, that doesn’t mean a player’s current team is similarly interested in dealing him.

Waiters is still raw from a talent perspective, and has an incredible confidence level that has caused him to clash with teammates at times. But given his low-priced contract and undeniable upside, he’ll continue to be mentioned in these types of discussions until he can prove that his overall skill set is a fit with that of Irving’s — a player with whom the team already has so much of its future invested.

  1. tampajoey - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    Dion Waiters is great… in his own mind. Waiters is a shooter that can’t shoot and a wannabe slasher that can’t finish around the rim.

    • kenyante - Jul 23, 2014 at 4:55 PM

      You probably never watched the Cavs play if you can say that. Dion won some tough games for Cleveland when Kyrie was injured.

    • tv63 - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:49 PM

      Get your facts & stats right tampajoey FACT: When Waiters was promoted to starter in last 21 games. He was 19.5ppg, shot fg%45% and 3P%40%

      Here’s the link I doubt you even know how to comprehend it.

      Best http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/waitedi01/lineups/2014/5 man line -ups +39.5 pts

  2. rrhoe - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Go ahead CLE,gut your roster for a player that may or may not get you a long deserved title,as long as the Sixers get something out the deal for participating it’s all good.

  3. thesixersbench - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Well…..at least Dion will get minutes.

    I’ve seen how talented of a scorer the guy is (last year’s Rookie / Sophomore game was a great example of what he can do when he’s feeling it), but he strikes me as the antithesis of a “team first” guy. That makes me very nervous.

    I always ask this question when it comes to player acquisitions: In a vacuum, would the Spurs add this guy to their roster?

    • dluxxx - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:59 PM

      A.I. 2.0? Okay, maybe not. He isn’t half the player A.I. was.

      • thesixersbench - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:26 PM

        But he might have the same sized ego.

    • antistratfordian - Jul 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

      He’s young. A lot of young players think the same way i.e. “yeah, but there’s a ME in team.” MJ was like that when he was that age – “I thought of myself first, the team second. I always wanted my teams to be successful, but I wanted to be the main cause.” – but MJ was extraordinarily good and filled arenas, so it was tolerated.

      Players can change though. LeBron can probably get through to Waiters, but I’m not sure he’s going to get the opportunity.

      • thesixersbench - Jul 23, 2014 at 5:22 PM

        I don’t disagree with you and I think that’s a reasonable take. A change of scenery – especially his hometown – could also facilitate positive growth.

        It definitely still makes me nervous, tho – the last thing I want is a Ricky Davis on this young Sixers squad.

      • antistratfordian - Jul 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM

        Well, yeah. I’m not saying he’s going to change on Philly. He needs someone above him who carries some weight and has rings to back up what he’s saying.

  4. calkinsrob - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    Can I request you select a new picture for all dion waiters articles now? I swear Ive seen this pictures like 20 times over the past year haha

  5. beach305 - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    Waiters and Bennett have been disappointments so fare in their tenure. The Cav’s would be better to trade them both.

    • paleihe - Jul 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM

      Bennett played one injury riddled year. You’re giving up on him too quickly. Doesn’t matter though, him and Wiggins are gonna be traded for a stretch four that can’t play defense.

  6. lbeezyse - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    Wolves: Wiggs, Bennett, Young, 76ers 1st pick, & 3 scrubs from the Utah trade to be cut.
    Cle: Love & Martin
    Philly: Waiters, Berea, Cle #1 next year

    Does that work?

    • philswfc08 - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:52 PM

      i think that would be too much salary to come back to Cav’s…and no way 76ers are trading away their 1st.

      Wolves: Young, Bennett, Cavs 1st next yr & the 3 unguaranteed guys from Utah
      Cavs: Love (maybe a 2nd from minny & philly to offset losing 2 future picks)
      Sixers: Waiters, Berea, Martin & Cavs 1st 2016

      That should work and make all happy. Wolves get Young/Bennett/1st and unload 2 bad contracts; Cavs get their guy to pair with LBJ and probably early 2nd rounders to somewhat offset giving up 2 late 1st rounders and Sixers get Waiters, another 1st rd pick, Berea expiring contract for giving up Young and taking on Martin for 3 years (they are so far under that it doesn’t kill them).

      • jazz11001 - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:57 PM

        You forget that he deal hinges on Wiggins.

      • felser - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:58 PM

        First one won’t work for Philly, second one won’t work for Min.

      • dluxxx - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM

        lol. No Wiggins, no deal.

      • chaser44 - Jul 23, 2014 at 3:22 PM

        No way the sixers take on Martin with 3 years left. They are only taking expiring contracts like Stoudamire, nash etc..

    • phillyguyindc - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:11 PM

      No.
      Sixers arent giving up Young and their (most likely) lottery pick next year for Waiters, Barea and probably 30th overall.

      I wouldn’t even want Waiters if I was the sixers, it seems like they have a group of good character guys. I wouldn’t want to mess it up with Waiter.

    • 76ersdoubletank - Jul 23, 2014 at 3:12 PM

      If the word “pick” is involved in any trade involving the 76ers, it will be coming not going.

    • casualcommenter - Jul 23, 2014 at 4:08 PM

      I think that’s close, but Love and Martin make a combined $22.5 million, so making the salaries match is tough.

      • casualcommenter - Jul 23, 2014 at 4:10 PM

        *making the salaries match if those 2 guys are sent to the same team is tough

    • sumkat - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:57 PM

      The only way the Sixers trade their 1st is if they are brining in a star. No way they do it for Waiters and Berea and an end of the round 1st round pick.

      Being willing to help facilitate a trade does not mean you are willing to get robbed so both of the other teams can get what they want

  7. seasickcecil - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    If the Cavs trade both Waiters and Wiggins they have no 2 guard. Nobody.

    • fanofthegame79 - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:37 PM

      Unless they somehow bring back Martin in the deal.

    • casualcommenter - Jul 23, 2014 at 3:57 PM

      True, though the Cavs did sign Mike Miller who can play some 2-guard, and they’re apparently trying to recruit Ray Allen.

      But yeah – you generally want at least 1 guy in your 2-guard rotation who is under 34 years old.

  8. zinger92 - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    Sixers role in this trade (if it happens) will be be the dumping ground for bad contracts like K. Martin and Barea in exchange for draft picks. Should they decide to throw in Young I’d expect them to get Waiters in return. But there’s absolutely no chance the sixers would trade their 1st pick. Wishful thinking, but no.

  9. seasickcecil - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe teams must spend to 90% of the Cap.

    • zinger92 - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:17 PM

      correct me if I’m wrong as well but it was my understanding that if they fail to reach the cap floor they spread the money evenly amongst the players to reach it.

      • zinger92 - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:18 PM

        yep. check #15 http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q15

  10. thecorduroyman - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    The idea of Waiters coming to Philly conflicts me. One side of me feels that it would be good to have a scorer on the Sixers who isn’t afraid to shoot. It would also be nice to pair college teammates in MCW and Waiters in the back court. But also this dude is absolutely nuts. For instance, he threw a party in my small hometown outside of Philly. There was basically an all out riot filled with gunshots and drug use. I’m not going to condemn the man for the company he keeps but this also isn’t the first red flag about his character.

    In summation, you don’t know want to bring bad attitude cancer into a young impressionable locker room. But you also know how talented this kid is. And giving up Thad young and some later round picks? I think it’s worth discussing in the front office.

    • casualcommenter - Jul 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM

      Interesting comment. I forgot about the angle of pairing former teammates MCW and Waiters in the backcourt together.

      76’ers would have a fun young team this year with MCW, Waiters, and Noel all being on their rookie deals. However, as part of Hinkie’s “stripping down” process for the roster, there aren’t many respected veteran voices aside from Thad Young in the locker room.

      Even with that risk, I think it’d be a great deal for the 76’ers to pull off if their main contribution in a 3-way trade was to act as a salary dumping ground. I wouldn’t give up future first round pick within the next 2 years though.

  11. 76ersdoubletank - Jul 23, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Interesting how the Sixers are supposedly getting in on this Love action. Really, since they are the NBA’s biggest self-storage unit right now, it makes a lot of sense.

    The Sixers would almost have to get some player back in a deal like this. Giving up Young, who could finally move out of this abyss of a team, would be great for him, but would leave the Sixers with pretty much no one outside of MCW who can be counted on for more than 10-12 points per night.

    Waiters has a crummy attitude, shoots the ball like a madman, and seems to hate his teammates, but he’s young and cheap, and shows a knack for being able to put it all together at times. That’s pretty much the kind of player the Sixers want at this point, along with a pick, of course.

    If i’m a Wolves fan though, I love this return. You get a guy who finally looks like he can be at least a role player this year in Bennett, Wiggins is a stud in the making, and anyone else is just an added bonus. Getting Young is a solid move in any proposed deal, because he’s young (27), versatile, and will be playing for a new contract soon.

    • philswfc08 - Jul 23, 2014 at 4:18 PM

      yeah, very intriguing…i’m struggling to see how it will work for all sides though. everyone seems to think it’s Wiggins or no deal for Wolves, but for the Sixers to get involved they will want either Waiters or picks from Cavs…at that point it just starts to look like way to much for the Cavs. Hard to picture them trading Wiggins, Bennett AND Waiters or even Wiggins, Bennett and two 1st round picks for just Love.

      Wolves say they want guys that can help them now…so why not Thad Young, Bennett, 1st rd pick and ability to dump Barea/Martin as well? I think that is a pretty damn good haul for them…who knows if Wiggins ever pans out.

      • sumkat - Jul 23, 2014 at 7:31 PM

        You are overvaluing Thad Young. If he had that kind of trade value, he’d be gone already (if they could of got ANY first round pick at the draft, they’d of moved him.

        My guess would be, the Sixers give up Young for Waiters, and grab a pick for taking on Barea or Martin

    • tv63 - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM

      Please Please keeping thinking that. Dion is Cavs best kept secret and for very good reasons. Overwhelmingly majority want Waiters in Cleveland. He doesn’t shrink in the moment. He had a fantastic season last year especially when he finally started.

  12. pascalswager42 - Jul 23, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    We’d be glad to trade you Waiters. For Nerlenns Noel.

  13. johnc44 - Jul 23, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    If Cavs fans think they are getting Love without giving up Wiggins their delusional.
    Bennett doesn`t have that much value and none of their 1st round picks are going to be lottery picks.Without Wiggins the Wolves are better off with Lee & Barnes plus filler from GS or the Bulls offer.If Minnesota just wanted picks Boston has a better offer.

    • campcouch - Jul 23, 2014 at 8:53 PM

      Fans don’t conduct trades so fantasy is allowed. What if Kevin Love WANTS to play with LeBron James. An option he didn’t have 30 days ago. He made his rounds, said his thing about GS,CHI and maybe Boston and then suddenly, an opportunity presented itself. He could force his way to Cleveland for a bag of Doritos if he wanted or just wait until free agency again. Saunders may regret not taking any of the current offers and may have to take a lesser deal due to Love’s preference. There may be a handful of teams willing to gamble on a season rental, but are they going to offer what the Bulls and Cavs are putting on the table?

    • 12312 - Jul 24, 2014 at 2:18 AM

      They’re delusional…

  14. groundpounder95 - Jul 23, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    Waiters has been trouble at every level. Punched two of his high school coaches, tried to fight his college coach, and getting into fights with his own team in nba. At least he is consistent with all that confidence.

  15. muhangis - Jul 24, 2014 at 12:47 AM

    And you never mentioned FOR WHO on the Sixers?

    I will say this, Tony Wroten is a huge under-rated talent who in the long term will do much greater for whichever team, than Waiters. [Too many ppl look at the draft slot, but Wroten > Waiters x2]

  16. zinger92 - Jul 24, 2014 at 1:10 AM

    Who needs waiters when you have tony wroten baby! SHO YA LUV SIXERS

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