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Report: Cavaliers trying to acquire other players to put in Kevin Love trade

Jul 22, 2014, 3:38 PM EDT

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The deal reportedly on the table from Cleveland for Kevin Love is No. 1 picks Andrew Wiggins, last year’s No. 1 pick Anthony Bennett (who looked good at Summer League) plus one or two first round picks.

If that was enough the deal would be done. Minnesota is trying to leverage Cleveland with Chicago and maybe Golden State (although the Warriors are not playing along) to get as much as they can.

Cleveland is looking around the league to get more parts to put in a deal, specifically non-guaranteed contracts, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.

The Cleveland Cavaliers are pursuing trade components to include as part of a package with Minnesota to acquire All-Star forward Kevin Love, league sources told Yahoo Sports….

The Cavaliers are working to obtain non-guaranteed contracts that could be a part of a package for Love, allowing the Cavaliers to deliver players that could be released immediately upon completion of a deal, sources said. This would give Minnesota salary-cap relief as part of a trade.

Those other pieces are likely to add Kevin Martin to the deal. Minnesota has wanted to dump Martin and his salary (three years, $21.3 million left on his deal) in any Love deal, and frankly Martin could provide some shooting the Cavs could use. To balance that out the Cavs need some non-guaranteed contracts.

Cleveland is apparently confident that they are close and can land a deal. That is as much about the lack of other great options out there for Minnesota — Chicago wants in with a deal based around Taj Gibson, and Denver is still out there as the best of the bad options for Minnesota (and that deal will be there, no reason for Minnesota to rush and take any of them).

[MORE: Coach K would trade Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love with 'not one second of hesitancy']

The other part of all this: Will Kevin Love opt in for Cleveland? It’s what Chris Paul did for the Clippers, it is not something Dwight Howard did for the Lakers. Yes, Love reportedly would want to stay with LeBron in Cleveland, but situations and attitudes can change and the Cavs would be wise to get that one extra year guaranteed (plus Love could become a free agent in 2016 when the max salary will skyrocket with the new TV deal).

Still, it feels like a deal with get done with the Cavaliers. Eventually.

  1. 00maltliquor - Jul 22, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    CLE, stop trying to gut what little depth you have to get Love and cave into the demands of Flip Saunders. They have ZERO leverage. If I was you I wouldn’t even throw in a 1st round pick. Either Wiggins and scraps to make the money work or Bennett, Waiters, pick(s) and whatever it takes to make the money work.

    Wiggy, Bennett AND a first is ridiculous. Anymore added to that treasure chest would be pure idiocy. Flip off Flip and tell him to take it or kick rocks with wearing thong sandals. Just sign Love when he’s a FA next year.

    • jonka - Jul 22, 2014 at 3:53 PM

      Im a cavs fan and I truly do not understand it. Flip actually has 0 leverage and MIN would be INSANE not to trade Wiggins for Love straight up and risk losing love for nothing.
      Why in the world they are including bennett AND a first is beyond me.

      • illogic87 - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:22 PM

        Because the contracts have to match up you idiot. Do you know nothing about trades in the NBA? You cant trade Loves 15 mil contract for Wiggins 5 mil contract. Sigh… get a clue

      • 00maltliquor - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:46 PM

        Illogic

        You could if the team (Cavs) receiving the player with the bulkier contract has the cap room. I don’t know Cleveland’s cap situation off top but I’m pretty sure they hot some wiggle room. For you to tell jonka to get a clue is utterly ridiculous. You do know that both trades don’t have to exactly match up if there is cap room right??

      • zoomy123 - Jul 22, 2014 at 5:26 PM

        @00maltliquor

        No. The NBA specifies that while salaries in a trade don’t have to be identical, they do have to be within a certain range of each other irrespective of the salary cap situation. So, you could trade $15 M in salary for $11-12 M but you CAN’T trade $15 M for $5.5 M. And even if what you said was true, Cleveland doesn’t have any cap space.

      • 00maltliquor - Jul 22, 2014 at 6:39 PM

        Zoomy

        Let’s just say the cap is $58 mil

        Now let’s pretend the Cavs salary is at $40m

        Now let’s say Love is making $20m and Wiggy is at $5m

        You CAN trade them STRAIGHT UP. The Cavs would still be under the cap a couple million. The only reason people think they have to match up within $1-2m is BECAUSE USUALLY EVERY TEAM MAKING A TRADE IS AT/CLOSE TO/OVER THE CAP already. Got it? We are not used to seeing trades like that.

        But I mean if CLEs cap room ain’t like that then there just ain’t no reason to continue this convo.

    • ecnuob51 - Jul 22, 2014 at 3:57 PM

      I agree 100% about the cavs not throwing in any more of their players. But it didn’t say anything about adding more of their players but signing free agents they don’t want to unguaranteed contracts so they can add Martin in the package. Getting love and Martin for wiggins and Bennett with some throw ins isn’t a bad deal.

      • 00maltliquor - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM

        Hmmmmmm….true, true.

        Irving
        Martin
        James
        Love
        Sideshow Bob

        Not a bad 5. They need to keep Andy and add some defensive bench presence to make it really work out though. I’d still keep Wiggy, but that’s me.

    • mickdamill - Jul 22, 2014 at 3:57 PM

      Lebron will get what he asks for and I think the Cavs are trying to build the best possible team they can this year. Lebron isnt getting any younger and I think he wants to land love no matter what the cost will be to the team.

    • antistratfordian - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:16 PM

      CLE would be more than fine if they get Love and Martin. That’s almost unfair, actually. Both are far better than Wiggins and Bennett are going to be either this year or next year – at least offensively.

      Including Wiggins and Bennett is only ridiculous if you rate them highly. Most people don’t rate Bennett highly at all – he’s either an undersized PF or a fat SF, I can’t figure out which. If you don’t rate them very highly, then you probably think of this as a highway robbery.

    • mcjon22 - Jul 22, 2014 at 6:08 PM

      As a Bulls fan…

      I wouldn’t be so quick to trade Wiggins. Love is a great player, no doubt. But Wiggins could be a star. Also from a salary cap standpoint, Wiggins will be on that rookie contract for 3-4 years. With Love, you have to give him a near max deal.

      That’s all well and good, but it hurts your depth and the team you can put around them. If you are coughing up multiple 1st round picks AND you have to take back K Martin…I’m not doing it.

      I seriously doubt Flip will take Harrison Barnes or Taj Gibson over Wiggins. I’m calling Flips bluff and refusing to take back Kevin Martin or add much outside of Bennett and Wiggins.

      And Also, if Love isn’t signing an extension after a trade? forget it. A lot can change in 2 years, I’m not giving up Andrew Wiggins for a 2 year rental player.

      • fanofthegame79 - Jul 22, 2014 at 7:21 PM

        That’s just is: Wiggins COULD be a star.

        This is a kid who did not dominate in college.

        This is a kid who did not dominate the NCAA tournament.

        This is a kid who did not light it up in the NBA Summer League.

        Why are we saying he could be a star? Because he was the top draft pick (he would have fallen to #3 if Embiid were healthy)? Is it because he is a freak athlete?

        I need to know why everyone is so suddenly high on Wiggins, please.

    • furedmccombs - Jul 23, 2014 at 8:51 AM

      00maltliquor – you have no clue on how trades work in the NBA. The salaries have to match within somewhere around 5% or so. Also Cleveland will not have the room under the salary cap to grab K-Love in free agency. A team can go over the cap, but only to sign current players on their roster. They cannot go into luxury tax land when signing a free agent who played for a different team the season before.

  2. patfic5 - Jul 22, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    Poor Kevin Martin. Nobody really wants this guy.

    • Unidentified_Flying_Stiviano - Jul 22, 2014 at 7:15 PM

      Yes……. poor Kevin Martin, I feel for him and that $21 million deal. I must be really pathetic to say I’d take that treatment happily for that kind of money.

      • 1historian - Jul 22, 2014 at 7:28 PM

        mememememe!!!!!

      • patfic5 - Jul 22, 2014 at 8:26 PM

        Yeah…I get that. But he’s thrown in every trade.

    • fanofthegame79 - Jul 22, 2014 at 7:16 PM

      The Thunder did….he didn’t want them.

      • patfic5 - Jul 22, 2014 at 8:24 PM

        He was a just a name with the Harden trade. They would’ve kept him if they wanted him. He was non-essential.

  3. phillysports1 - Jul 22, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    Cleveland gets = Kevin Love

    Philadelphia gets = Andrew Wiggins

    Minnesota gets = Thad young, Philadelphia’s first round pick 2015, Deion waiters, Tristan Thompson, Anthony Bennett, Cleveland 2015 first round pick.
    And CASH if necessary !

    • mickdamill - Jul 22, 2014 at 3:58 PM

      The only thing Philly is getting is losses when they play these teams.

    • bougin89 - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:04 PM

      So it would only take Thad Young and a 2015 first round pick for the Sixers to get Wiggins?

      Go home, your drunk.

    • ProBasketballPundit - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:16 PM

      Trade failed on NBA Trade Machine. Minny would go way over the cap on that deal and cutting Waiters or Tristan doesn’t work either. Sorry.

      • liamj55 - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:37 PM

        It works if you throw Varejão to the Sixers.

    • illogic87 - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:25 PM

      dafuq………

    • tcstunner - Jul 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

      So instead of trading Wiggins, Bennet, a 1st round pick and expiring contracts straight up to MN for Love. They do a 3 team trade where they have to give up Wiggins, Bennet, Thompson, Waiters and a 1st round pick, and still only end up with Love? Brilliant!!

    • tomasekradek - Jul 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM

      Cavs giving up Wiggins, Waiters, Thompson, Bennett and first for Love. I can even laugh at it.

  4. bougin89 - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    Cleveland is going backwards in their pursuit of Love.

    They need to stick to their guns. Wiggins has a ton of trade value. Don’t gut the rest of your depth to get Love.

    They really can’t be considering giving up more than Wiggins, Bennett, and a 1st, right?

    • antistratfordian - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:20 PM

      Wiggins doesn’t really have that much trade value right now. If Love wasn’t threatening to bolt, then Wiggins for Love would be a joke.

      Who else do you think CLE can get for Wiggins right now who is as good as Kevin Love? The fact that they can even get Love for Wiggins is kind of remarkable considering how down everyone was on Wiggins for most of the year.

      • bougin89 - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM

        Have you considered the Twolve’s other offers when typing this?

        Wiggins has much more trade value than David Lee and Harrison Barnes, he also has more value than a Jimmy Butler/Taj Gibson trade.

        I can understand the Love trade for the Cavs, it does make sense even if I don’t think I’d personally make that trade if it were up to me. To trade more than Wiggins, Bennett and a first would be too much.

      • antistratfordian - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:41 PM

        But you’re a guy who doesn’t value Love very highly. So it makes sense that you would say that.

        For someone who thinks of Love as the type of player that we haven’t seen in a long time, trading Wiggins, Bennett and a pick for him is stealing.

        Consider what most people thought of Wiggins and Bennett just a few months ago. Both flops, basically. And here we are a few months later and all of a sudden they’re too valuable to give up for Kevin Love!?

      • bougin89 - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM

        You weren’t very high on Kevin Love until he was a serious candidate to be traded to the team with Lebron on it.

        Without a bias I’m still the guy that thinks Kevin Love is a good player with inflated stats. Throw in his max salary which cripples the Cavs flexibility in the future and that’s why I think the Cavs shouldn’t give up so much for him.

        We can agree to disagree.

      • antistratfordian - Jul 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM

        No, there’s a difference. You simply thought Love was overrated entirely. The way you are with Love is almost how that one dude is here with Melo. I thought Love would excel in a better situation. We both agreed that he wasn’t the best #1 option, but beyond that we differed.

  5. phillysports1 - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    And cash if necessary. You can throw in more picks … But really ? I’m drunk ? 👎

    • 00maltliquor - Jul 22, 2014 at 5:01 PM

      🍺🍸🍷🍻🍹

  6. loubearkane - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    I’m a Bulls fan and from a competitive standpoint I am loving all this.
    Wiggins , Bennet , 1st rd pick and more

    SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cleveland do the smart thing for once in your life tell them the deal is off and when G.S. refuses to give up Klay come back with Waiters , Bennett & #1

  7. wiltchamberlainthethird - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    LOL Flip Saunders is pathetic. Dude is leaking false trade rumors left & right, hoping someone will take the bait because he knows he can’t get anything better than the Celtics deal & ownership can’t stomach trading the C’s the game’s best PF again.

    What happened to those reports Golden St. WAS willing to part with Klay Thompson? Completely false.

    Cleveland offers Wiggins…that ain’t enough. So they throw in last year’s #1 pick as well as next year’s 1st round pick…still not enough. Why would Cleveland be bidding against themselves & they’re the ones with the 4-time MVP, a guaranteed top-3 seed & as bright a future possible on their side? All the while the Cavs have said nothing & plan on signing Wiggins, willingly taking themselves out the Love sweepstakes for the time being.

    Now Chicago wants in on the Love action a week after signing Pau Gasol. Again, it’s just plain stupid.

    If Cleveland really offered up a Wiggins/Bennett/1st rounder package it would’ve been a done deal on the spot. It’s all lies & BS ‘reports’ because the TWolves don’t wanna take the best deal on the table out of spite. Now watch Minny end up stuck with Love, getting crumbs from some team at the deadline & doing what they do best: chasing ping pong balls.

  8. kinggw - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    Wiggins may have a ton of trade value to you, but to a lot of GMs he’s a big risk.

    He’s an athletic freak, but there is no guarantee that he matures into the superstar many think he’s destined to become. He hasn’t played a NBA minute, and he wasn’t a dominant player at the college level. It’s no slam dunk that Wiggins becomes a star.

    The only reason why it seems like an equal deal is that both Wiggins and Bennett were overall number one picks. The Wolves should push for more. Right now the Cavs are offering a high 1st round pick. A guy with a lot of upside in Wiggins and a guy in Bennett who a lot of the time didn’t look like he belonged in the NBA. The fact that the Cavs may be entertaining adding more pieces to their proposed deal shows they know there is a discrepancy in what they are offering and what may be needed to get a deal done.

  9. seasickcecil - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:38 PM

    Cavs Wolvs talks heating up? http://ow.ly/zsTLW

  10. nickjackalson - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    I´ll guarantee you something we´ll never find out anyways:

    2nd year Wiggins will be a different player having played a season in Cle with Lebron compared to having played his first year under Flips tutelage in Min

    book it!

  11. seasickcecil - Jul 22, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    Cavs have three No. 1 picks in 2015: Own, Grizzlies and Heat’s. If #Cavs give up two of them with Wiggins/Bennett, deal gets done, IHMO.

  12. ravenswhat - Jul 22, 2014 at 5:36 PM

    Holy S. wiggins, Bennett and 2 1st rd picks and minny won’t do that deal?? Wow. Cavs are getting hosed on this one.

  13. seasickcecil - Jul 22, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    Something to remember in Kevin Love trade talks. If it is a three-way with Sixers, who have $35M in cap space, salaries need not match.

  14. rosloe62 - Jul 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    The Cleveland Heat better be right on with Love. Giving up Wiggs, Bennett, and 1 or 2 1st rounders, is ridiculously too much. How thin do you want your bench?

    • bkbell3 - Jul 23, 2014 at 12:29 AM

      Your giving up 2 players and getting an all star and those draft picks will be very high in thd 25-30 range so what bench are you giving up? Contending teams don’t want high draft picks that have guaranteed salaries that eat up cap space and won’t be in the rotation.

  15. rosloe62 - Jul 22, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    Mini and Flip will screw things up.

  16. mrsingh24 - Jul 22, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    Does this not remind anyone of the Melo-Nuggets situation? To me, this league has a more pressing need for quality wing defenders. We just saw the Spurs win a championship not only because they are a great organization and their offense was outstanding. But also because they had a 2-way wing who could play defense on LBJ and still score on the other end. No team in this league is willing to deal a wing like that at this point. Not when the best two best players in the league are wings. Thompson is debate-ably the best defender on the Warriors and Butler is the best wing defender on the Bulls. Why in their right mind would the Bulls trade Butler and Gibson to an already crowded back court?

    Now why trading Wiggins for Love doesnt make sense to me:

    1) Who is gonna play defense alongside LBJ? Love cannot protect the paint. Kyrie and Waiters cannot defend the wing. Is LBJ going to be playing defense all by himself?

    2) Everyone says that Wiggins hasnt proved anything at this point. True however he is an excellent defender with a lot of athleticism. Yes his game needs improvement but what better player for LBJ to take under his wing than Wiggins??

    3) Is Waiters really going to be happier now that LBJ is on the team. Another player who is dominant with the ball in his hands? Waiters couldnt get along with Kyrie having the ball, now he will see the ball even less.

    Minnesota has no leverage at this point. Maybe they will as the season progresses and some team takes a chance that Love will resign with them. Cleveland should be playing hardball instead of caving in.

    • mrsingh24 - Jul 22, 2014 at 6:35 PM

      with an already crowded back court**

  17. mungman69 - Jul 22, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Will some one please make a deal

  18. seasickcecil - Jul 22, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Utah’s trading John Lucas, Malcolm Thomas and Erik Murphy to Cleveland for Carrick Felix, future 2nd and $1M, sources tell Yahoo.

  19. seasickcecil - Jul 22, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    As much as anything, three non-guaranteed contracts give Cavs what one source calls, “Buying power,” whether used on Love or elsewhere.

  20. twinfan24 - Jul 22, 2014 at 9:33 PM

    I love how people keep saying the Wolves have no leverage. There is no one else in the league that brings the same particular set of skills that Love does. So, if Cleveland wants Love, they have zero other options than to trade for him. They can’t wait a year (which would be a wasted year for LBJ) and hope to sign him as a free agent, as they won’t have cap space then. Their only chance to acquire Love is now. The Wolves can keep Love and get the garbage players everyone thinks they should take at the trade deadline if needed.

  21. 1friendofthepeople - Jul 22, 2014 at 9:50 PM

    I guess you could say Flip is acting real flipp-ant towards these negotiations

  22. beach305 - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:20 AM

    Is lebron-love-Irving any better than lebron-bosh-wade

    • 00maltliquor - Jul 23, 2014 at 4:30 AM

      Light years better

  23. kavika6 - Jul 23, 2014 at 7:19 AM

    Wiggins has proven nothing. Love is a proven career loser. Sounds about right.

  24. kavika6 - Jul 23, 2014 at 7:20 AM

    Wiggins has proven nothing. Love is a proven career loser.

  25. dluxxx - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    In other words, if he doesn’t find the move he likes, let Love mope for a year and walk. It’s better than crippling the team for another 2-3 years with crappy contracts and crappy players.

  26. loubearkane - Jul 22, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    If it’s true that it’s Wiggins , Bennett and a 1st rd pick then the owner needs to step in a take the deal. If this goes into the season the offers will drop dramatically.

  27. jollyjoker2 - Jul 22, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    I agree. love is worth a lot less if he starts in mn. It blows MN out of the water. Love gets booed etc.. I don’t like that idea at all. Your getting thumbs down but I have no idea what people think is acceptable. I think Wiggins and maybe a draft pick is acceptable.

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