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Report: Cavaliers to sign Andrew Wiggins this week, which wouldn’t necessarily affect trade talks for Kevin Love

Jul 20, 2014, 8:00 PM EDT

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The Cavaliers have yet to sign the number one overall pick in this year’s draft, but that’s expected to change sometime in the coming week.

And when it does, it could affect whether or not Cleveland is able to come up with a package enticing enough to land Kevin Love in trade from the Timberwolves.

Andrew Wiggins has been playing for the Cavaliers during Summer League in Las Vegas without a contract, though it’s only a question of when, not if, he’ll be signed to the maximum figure allowed under the collective bargaining agreement.

Cleveland has been waiting not only to keep its cap space free to agree to deals with free agents like Mike Miller, but also to keep Wiggins on the table in any potential trade talks for Kevin Love — and those talks would theoretically need to be shelved for at least 30 days once Wiggins is signed.

From Brian Windhorst of ESPN.com:

The Cleveland Cavaliers are planning to sign No. 1 overall draft pick Andrew Wiggins to a contract in the coming week, according to sources close to the process.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Cavaliers’ delay in signing the former Kansas star has nothing to do with the prospect of Wiggins being dealt to the Minnesota Timberwolves as part of Cleveland’s ongoing trade discussions for Kevin Love.

The Cavaliers, sources say, are merely exploring options for using their estimated $1.4 million in remaining cap space before signing Wiggins to a contract that will pay him in the neighborhood of $5.5 million as a rookie.

It’s difficult to believe that Cleveland’s discussions with Minnesota about a potential deal for Love haven’t influenced this process at all, because again, league rules state that a rookie can’t be traded for 30 days following the signing of his contract. Though with the unexpected signing of LeBron James, the salary cap maneuverings became far trickier than expected, and that was likely the primary motive for waiting to get this done for so long.

But at this point, signing Wiggins probably wouldn’t matter all that much, because we’d still be in late August once that 30 days was up, which would leave plenty of time for something to get done well in advance of the start of the season. And, just as we saw during the moratorium period at the beginning of free agency, a deal could be agreed upon now, and executed once that time is up.

  1. 88heatnation - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:15 PM

    I’d say keep Wiggins, and acquire Love in free agency this offseason. Why trade a great 2-way potential that would develop under Lebron for a player that would be available the next season. I want to have my cake and eat it too. Imagine a lineup featuring Irving, Wiggins, Lebron, Love and Verajao.

    • cantonb0und13 - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:21 PM

      Maybe it’s because they won’t be able to afford Kevin Love next summer? You’re like the 100th person that said this…

      • BrownsTown - Jul 20, 2014 at 10:30 PM

        They could do a S&T. Haywood’s contract of $10.5M next year isn’t guaranteed. Throw in a Waiters or Bennett and some filler and you’re within the % required.

        Maybe not likely, but possible.

      • sportsfan18 - Jul 20, 2014 at 10:40 PM

        the Cavs have $21.5 million on the books for the 15/16 season and that includes Lebron.

        It does NOT include Kyries amount for next season. I don’t want to Google it but let’s say Kyrie will make $18 million (or plug it the real number for ya’ll that know it) and add that to the $21.5.

        now if they retain Tristan and Dion then add another $12 million to that. So $21.5 plus $18 pluse $12 and that gets one to $51.5 million for only 4 players.

        so they’d have to get creative to get K Love after this season as a free agent. Could they? yes but it would require gymnastic movments that I’m sure they don’t want to try (Morey in Houston will be glad to try though).

        here are the cavs salaries for this season and next for those who care.

        http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm

      • Damidwesterner - Jul 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM

        Kelly Dwyer on Ball Don’t Lie a couple of days ago said the Cavs will have $19+M next year if Love really goes FA. He broke down all of the cap space for the Cavs depending on whether they get Love or not; the article was more on what kind of flexibility the Cavs would have if they got Love or not.

    • bkbell3 - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:47 PM

      Also if they do a sign and trade they will be hard capped at 4mil above the lux. tax i believe.If lbj opts out next year they only have irving’s 15.5 mil on the books plus cap holds minus the team options on bennet and waiters if they don’t pick them up. Tristen will have a qualifying offer and miller has a player option for about 3 mil plus wigging contract, i forgot. If they keep all those guys not counting miller they have about 68mil spent next year with lbj opt in at 20.5mil and love at 16.7 opt in. Love and lbj could be higher on new contracts.

  2. seasickcecil - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    Cavs won’t have the cap space next year after Irving’s extension kicks in.

    • cantonb0und13 - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:23 PM

      Thank you. It’s like everyone forgot about the CBA.

  3. lbeezyse - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    For the millionth time….., the Cavs will not have cap space to sign Love in FA

    • cantonb0und13 - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:25 PM

      Thank you. You’re not the only one that is annoyed with these people saying Cavs can afford Love next summer.

    • 88heatnation - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:52 PM

      Just like HOU you can easily strip down salary from the roster for future picks, Bennet is set to make $5m and Thompson another $7m, for the sake of keeping Wiggins on the wing as Robin to Lebron would be devastating to the league off the attack. Plus Cavs have too many youth, Bennett and Thompson don’t hold that much potential and Cleveland is clearly in win now mode, so rounding out the roster with complimentary low salary veterans might make sense. Mutual interest from Love and the Cavs regardless so to wait will be worth it.

  4. seasickcecil - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    You can spend above the cap to keep your own guys. You can not go over the cap to bring new guys in.

    • bkbell3 - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:59 PM

      That’s the problem that’s caused by cap holds, player options and qualifing offers and even your trade exceptions and mid-level exceptions etc count against the cap as cap holds till you start renouncing every thing is site. Parsons was unique in his cap hold was only 2mil but his contract was going to be at least 8-10mil and ended up at 15mil. That allowed houston to fill up cap space then resign parsons if they wanted to and greatly exceed the cap. Also if with contracts and cap holds you are over the cap and in signing guys, ever dip below the cap at anytime you lose your mid-level and bi-annual exception. It’s nuts what lawyers can come up with and will be the down fall of civilization as we know it. lol Go to larry’s coon’s FAQ web site and do some reading it’s well done and pretty clear most of the time but wow, it’s just crazy.

  5. ProBasketballPundit - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    This is the first true report about Andrew Wiggins/Kevin Love in weeks.

  6. campcouch - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:43 PM

    Wiggins and a pick I could see. Wiggins, Bennett, picks and a third team to take Verejao and maybe Waiters for Love…nah. What good is the team if it turns into the North Coast version of the Big 3 Heat. We have no clue how Wiggins, Waiters, Irving and Bennett will respond to playing with James, but I can’t see them not flourishing. James and Irving should compliment each other well and even Waiters will see the benefit. I can only imagine Wiggins and Bennett absorbing the opportunity and everything James has to offer. If GS doesn’t want to trade for 26/12/5 because of defensive concerns,I don’t think Cleveland should either. Saunders should’ve moved when teams had good offers, now they’ll wait until the deadline and offer him garbage. Either way Love spends half a season elsewhere or walks at the end, then teams will be free to trade whoever to accommodate his salary.

    • jazz11001 - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:25 PM

      The new TV deal is supposed to move the cap way up they will have the money. Flip has played this very well and keep in mind that he is not bluffing when he says he will keep Love or trade him to Chicago. Love has 26.5 million reasons to resign with the wolves the following year if Flip has the team on the right track. Cleveland might want to trade just to keep Love out of Chitown (aka Chi-raq)

      • cantonb0und13 - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:49 PM

        Okay… Love also has 26.5 million reasons to leave Minnesota.

      • campcouch - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:56 PM

        Love said his time in Minny is over whether it’s via trade or free agency, so something rubbed him wrong. Besides,the TV deal will be worked out in two years, I don’t see Love signing for one more.

      • bkbell3 - Jul 21, 2014 at 12:02 AM

        What would the bull have besides rose and noah that minn. would want.

  7. antistratfordian - Jul 20, 2014 at 8:43 PM

    Cleveland pump fake?

  8. sisisisisisisi - Jul 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    Me and ESPN are in the same boat? What are we to do for 30 days without lebron in the news?

    • hojo20 - Jul 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM

      Tebow?

      • apkyletexas - Jul 20, 2014 at 10:34 PM

        Manziel!

  9. samsonight1010 - Jul 20, 2014 at 9:54 PM

    If Lebron opts out after year one, then sign Love as a FA, then go over cap resigning Lebron, it works. However, I think Love finds a long term home before the trade deadline, which makes the FA angle a lot harder

    • tcstunner - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:48 PM

      Can’t go over the cap to sign Lebron as they won’t have his Bird Rights. Player has to be on the team for 3 years before they come into affect.

      • bkbell3 - Jul 21, 2014 at 12:15 AM

        There are early bird rights but i forget exactly how they work but even if lbj opts out he is going to have a cap hold of at least 22mil unless the early bird rights don’t apply to him, not sure maybe some one knows on here. Also the cacs have team options on bennet and waiters that will have cap holds and a qualifying offer to tristen that has a cap hold and miller holds a player option of 3mil that also has a cap hold.And if they haven’t used them this year and are over the cap with contracts and cap holds next year, then they will have cap holds for the mid- level and the bi-annual exceptions. It might be done if they renounce everybody they can but then they would lose bird rights to tristen,waiters and bennet etc.

  10. mungman69 - Jul 20, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    So Love gets traded to the Cavs? No.
    So Love gets traded to the Warriors? No.
    So Love stays in Minnesota? No?
    THIS IS SO STUPID BUT THE WOLVES MIGHT END UP SH_TS CREEK

    • tcstunner - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:45 PM

      How? They’ll take the Celtics offer of a boatload of 1st round picks before they let him walk for nothing.

      • bkbell3 - Jul 21, 2014 at 12:18 AM

        but will he resign with boston? I doubt it.

  11. cranespy - Jul 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

    Keep what you have Cavs!

    • tcstunner - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM

      Yep, and waste 2 or 3 of Lebron’s, at most 5 prime years he had left, waiting for the team to mature. Brilliant!!

  12. 1harrypairatesties - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    You know this trade is going to happen.

  13. tcstunner - Jul 20, 2014 at 11:41 PM

    If the Cavs don’t trade for Love they won’t get Love. First they won’t have the cap space. Second and more importantly, Love is NEVER getting to free agency. The Wolves have offers they can take for Love right now, at places he’s said he would resign. The Wolves aren’t letting him get to free agency. They’ll take the Warriors or Celtics offer before they let that happen.

    • campcouch - Jul 21, 2014 at 12:08 AM

      So the Wolves will take Golden State’s watered down offer of Lee, Barnes and maybe Green? Because they’re pretty adamant about not letting Thompson go. Love said he’d like a contender and Boston, who possibly with him could make the playoffs, currently isn’t one. Why don’t they make the deal(s) now instead of waiting for an even lesser offer at the deadline. Also,there can be trades made during next season’s free agency period. Teams could clear cap space and then Love would be free to choose who wanted, with at best a sign and trade which may net Minnesota even less compensation.

      • tcstunner - Jul 21, 2014 at 5:12 AM

        I think they should take the Wiggens, Bennett and 1st round pick deal.

  14. rrhoe - Jul 21, 2014 at 12:58 AM

    CLE fans,and all the new CLE fans(gee,I wonder why),you all need to pump your brakes,Kevin Love will not be in CLE. I have read all scenarios and that’s just what they are,scenarios,and for what it may take in the remote chance that they can pull it off doesn’t really put them over the top anyway. And for those who like to spit Love’s numbers do you really think he will put up those same numbers with LeBron and Irving because as with Miami we all saw that somebody has to sacrifice something. CLE,you got LeBron back and without anybody playing one game yet everybody has them playing for a championship.

  15. mungman69 - Jul 21, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    If the Cavs stay put on the trade front they have a lot of players with a lot of potential but like someone said “LeBron has maybe five (5) years left of prime.” This Cavs’ team is at least two (2) years away, maybe more, maybe never.
    But these Cavs will be a playoff team right away. As a basketball fan, not a Cavs fan, I would like to see this group stay together just to see what they will do.

  16. DonKellyBaby - Jul 21, 2014 at 7:07 AM

    The T-wolves need to bite the bullet and make the trade. They aren’t going to make the playoffs next year even with Love, so make the trade, tank next season, and build the franchise around Wiggins.

  17. imakcds - Jul 21, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    Julius Randle was not allowed to play for the Lakers’ summer league team until he signed a contract, so I do not understand how Wiggins was allowed to play w/o one.

    • bougin89 - Jul 21, 2014 at 10:10 AM

      Couple factors here, Wiggins already signed his shoe endorsement contract with Adidas(so if he would have gotten hurt, it wouldn’t have mattered) and I’m sure he has a nice insurance policy if he would have gotten hurt.

      He was at least protected enough that his agent was OK with him playing contract-less.

  18. lalifer - Jul 21, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    I was thinking about that same situation with randle and the lakers. So was Wiggins paid a weekly salary or something?

  19. seasickcecil - Jul 21, 2014 at 11:21 PM

    http://foxs.pt/1rlKqNb

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