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Mike Miller says he’s trying to recruit Ray Allen to sign with Cavaliers

Jul 17, 2014, 10:06 PM EDT

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The Cavaliers went out and got veteran sharpshooters in Mike Miller and James Jones to shore up the roster following the signing of LeBron James, and Miller is trying to bring a third former Heat teammate to join LeBron in Cleveland.

Ray Allen is in no rush to figure out whether or not he’ll continue to play next season, but if he does return, the city the franchise is located in will factor very little into that decision.

That’s good news for Cleveland’s chances, then, and Miller believes that adding Allen would be one more step in surrounding LeBron with enough talent to contend for a title as soon as this season.


Mike Miller told ESPN Radio on Thursday that he’s trying to recruit Ray Allen to sign with the Cavaliers, pointing to the veteran as the kind of player that will help LeBron James and his new team in key spots in the playoffs.

Miller, who agreed to join his good friend James and sign with the Cavs earlier this week, responded “of course,” when asked on “The Herd” if he was pitching the Cavs to Allen.

“We got James Jones, now we’re moving Miami to northeast Ohio,” Miller said, referring to Cleveland’s addition of the former Miami Heat forward on Wednesday. …

“With LeBron James, you are going to win 55 to 60 games regardless. Now it’s about what you do in the playoffs. For us, even with the young talent that they have there, you’ve gotta bring guys that have been there before, even if they are not giving you heavy minutes,” Miller said.

Miller is likely to be the one getting the most minutes out of that crew of former LeBron teammates, even if he were to be able to help convince Allen to join the squad. But there is something to be said about adding some veteran, championship-experienced talent to a team filled with younger players, and Allen could certainly fit in nicely as another piece of that puzzle.

  1. jasper36 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:13 PM

    The Cavs are going to run through the East next year good mix of vets, and youngsters. Once they add Love, which seems like a forgone conclusion.

    • cantonb0und13 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:22 PM

      Agree. Right around the all-star break this team is going to look great. And it’s unfortunate people think David Blatt is going to be a product of LeBron being on the team. I mean obviously LeBron is the best player in the world, but Blatt is a tremendous coach. And keep in mind Blatt said teams in the NBA started to use “Stretch four” because of him. Blatt invented that offense. What better stretch four than Kevin Love?

      • realfootballfan - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:55 PM

        He’s never coached in the NBA, lol. I thought it was a good hire, but wtf are you talking about?

      • casualcommenter - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM

        There have been stretch fours like Cliff Robinson and Terry Mills in NBA since the early 1990’s.

        In 1990, David Blatt was a 31 year old point guard playing in Israel. He wouldn’t start coaching until the mid-1990’s.

        So the timeline for that claim of yours is off.

      • cantonb0und13 - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:55 PM

        Casual, I’m just paraphrasing what Blatt said.

    • whoisferg - Jul 18, 2014 at 10:09 AM

      I have to say (as a Heat fan) I like how the Cavs are putting together this team. I like the addition of Miller and Jones. But remember, with all of these aging vets, you have to find time to place the youngsters. Ray Allen is seriously slowing down and his shooting in the Finals was awful. He is one of the reasons the Heat struggled so mightily…that and the Spurs were crazy good.

      One thing I’ve been thinking is that if the Cavs get Love, the pressure on them to win the Finals next year will be huge…no matter what LeBron says.

      Another thing I want to know is where are all the haters who cried out that Bron needed a DREAM team to win a title…now they love him back in Cleveland? What are the Cavs trying to put together?

    • jvw1982 - Jul 18, 2014 at 10:13 AM

      I think Chicago might have something to say about that….adding Rose, Gasol, Mirotic and Mcdermott smh they will be deep, good defenders and be able to hit the three….and they have a very good coach….the Bulls scare me more than Cleveland…

      • whoisferg - Jul 18, 2014 at 10:57 AM

        cant disagree, but Rose is an xfactor…good or bad. We know he is awesome when healthy, but it seems like 7 years since he’s been healthy. If Rose cannot return to form, the Bulls will not go anywhere. If he’s healthy, it should be a knock down drag out Eastern Conference Finals with the Cavs (or Wizards) (or maybe a healthy Hawks team…I know, I know, but they will be a decent team).

  2. fanofthegame79 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM

    Experience, leadership, great locker room presence, and all-time leader in 3’s…yeah, I’ll take that.

  3. maf586 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    When u have allen, miller and waiters playing the 2. Where does wiggins fit? Hi klove

    • longtallsam - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

      Trade Waiters.

    • ProBasketballPundit - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

      I’d say Mike Miller is more of a small forward. Positions really only matter on defense and Miller isn’t one to chase guards around screens all game.

      • casualcommenter - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:43 PM

        Agreed – Miller’s best fit is probably LeBron’s backup at small forward.

        He’s a good enough ballhandler to serve as a backup shooting guard on offense, but when he’s on defense, I don’t like his chances against smaller and quicker guards.

    • genericcommenter - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:50 PM

      Maybe they should have at least 1 guy who can start.

  4. ProBasketballPundit - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    Ray Allen is the kind of guy you want on any contender’s roster just in case. I mean he could probably sit out of 60% of Cleveland’s games this season, come in for the last minute of a Game 7, and bury a clutch 3.

    • casualcommenter - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:52 PM

      True, but while Ray has said he’d consider continuing his career even at a discounted salary, he also said he’d rather retire and spend time with his family than become a player who rarely sees the court.

      That makes sense for a future Hall of Famer who probably isn’t hurting for money. He’s willing to play for cheap, but he wants to actually play and have a decent role rather than be the 11th man off the roster.

      For the Cavs to target Ray Allen, they must be thinking about trading one of their shooting guards, Wiggins or Waiters. Remember, this team’s biggest holes are in their front court, where they’re very thin behind Varejao and Thompson.

      • ProBasketballPundit - Jul 18, 2014 at 2:05 AM

        I think I’d make a point to throw Waiters into the Love trade, just to be rid of him. I’ve heard he’s a terrible locker room presence and a large part of why the Cavs were so dysfunctional last season.

  5. maf586 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    That is why management is reconsidering it

  6. cantonb0und13 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    “Let It Fly”

  7. jimb25 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

    I thought he was going wherever LeBron goes anyway, so why does he still need to be recruited? smh

    • cantonb0und13 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:30 PM

      Because the media is bored. Need some clicks.

    • realfootballfan - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:57 PM

      Because players don’t want to play in Cleveland. The same problem that he had last time.

    • casualcommenter - Jul 18, 2014 at 12:03 AM

      He’ll go if he has guaranteed playing time.

      He’s said he’s willing to continue his career at a discount if he’s able to play and contribute regularly. Otherwise, it’s not worth it to spend 8 months of the year away from his family if he spends most of his time on the bench.

      Therefore, I don’t see him with the Cavs unless they trade either Wiggins or Waiters to free up time at shooting guard.

  8. antistratfordian - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:31 PM

    The Cavs should start Allen, Jones, Miller, LeBron and Oden next year.

  9. rrhoe - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    I wonder did Mike check with LeBron about first.

  10. realfootballfan - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    Too bad they’d be getting all the parts of the Heat that were the main reason they lost so badly in the Finals, old role players who would need to play more than they should in Cleveland just like they did this last year in Miami.

    • antistratfordian - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:00 PM

      They could’ve used Mike Miller.

      • kinggw - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM

        He wouldn’t have helped. Their big problem was defense, the same problem thIs Cavs team will have.

      • antistratfordian - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:10 PM

        With the way Battier, Lewis and Allen were playing, Miller would’ve helped. That doesn’t mean they would’ve won, but he would’ve helped.

      • realfootballfan - Jul 18, 2014 at 2:40 AM

        Yea, that would have changed those 20+ point blowouts. Mike Miller, lol.

      • antistratfordian - Jul 18, 2014 at 3:07 AM

        Well if Boris Diaw could make such a big difference, why couldn’t Mike Miller?

  11. antistratfordian - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    If Kevin Love happens, Ray Allen happens. He’s not going to sign on unless he feels he has a good chance at grabbing ring #3.

  12. daddyb1gdrawz - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:12 PM

    As a Heat fan I was fine with Lebron leaving but once they signed Mike Miller, James Jones and now courting Ray Allen there is a part of me feels as if they are cheating. I know the Cavs are not to blame here. It is more a product of Lebron James who before he starting luring all these ex-Heat players to Cleveland would have been well received. But now I find myself rooting for any team but Cleveland. Jealousy? Maybe. Betrayed? Probably but moreso with the James Jones signing. All Mickey Arison had to do was pay the stupid luxury tax on Mike Miller.

    • balsagna - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:35 PM

      How’s it feel? As a Cavs fan I’m glad you’re not enjoying this. You know what they say about karma.

      • casualcommenter - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:57 PM

        Uh, LeBron’s the one who betrayed Cleveland fans with The Decision, not Heat fans.

        LeBron’s punishment from that “bad Karma” was 4 trips to the Finals and 2 championship rings won for Miami, not Cleveland, in 4 seasons.

        So if you’re a believer in Karma, I’m not sure how LeBron and the Heat fit that belief system. LeBron’s career took off after he punched the Cavs fanbase in the nuts with the Decision special.

      • daddyb1gdrawz - Jul 18, 2014 at 3:07 PM

        Really? Exactly what did Heat fans do to you? You should be more upset with Lebron for leaving you at the alter. Again, I am not upset Lebron left. I probably expected it but it is just the fact they are mimicing what Miami did in hopes of getting a title. But we shall see if it pans out. Lets also remember Lebron hasnt had that injury yet. You know, that ACL, MCL tear that tend to hamper veterans. It is a matter of time but I will not wish ill will on him as he is an excellent player.

    • casualcommenter - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:59 PM

      It’s not cheating to sign over the hill free agent players to cheap deals.

      Riley did it every year to fill in holes on the Heat’s roster since 2010.

      Cavs are doing it too now that they’ve run out of cap room.

      Anyways – James Jones was almost never given any minutes by coach Spoelstra due to his horrific defense. Not sure why Heat fans would be upset to see him go. Meanwhile, Miller was amnestied, so that was your team deciding Miller wasn’t worth his salary. Allen’s also a guy whose shooting declined last year and isn’t getting any younger.

    • Hard On For Harden - Jul 18, 2014 at 12:09 AM

      Cheating? Pot meet kettle. How do you think Raptors and Cavs fans felt after losing Bosh and James (players they actually drafted) to you in 2010? Miller and Allen have both bounced around with a few NBA teams and aren’t well tenured players with the Heat. People like Battier, Lewis, Miller, Allen went to Miami not for the desire to be a part of the organization, but to play with LeBron and chase rings.

    • realfootballfan - Jul 18, 2014 at 2:44 AM

      Please be quiet. Did you have a problem when the Heat were getting the same players and Big Z? Didn’t think so. Just be glad your team got Ray Allen when he was 36 instead of 38 and that your team got Mike Miller before his body broke. These are locker room guys to teach the Cavs the Heat way of doing things in Cleveland more than anything. The problem is that they’re going to have to play up there too because no one with options is going to Cleveland.

  13. campcouch - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM

    The Cavs are literally reconstructing the Miami Heat. If they do swing a trade for Love, then he’ll have his new Bosh with Irving filling the Wade role.

    • realfootballfan - Jul 18, 2014 at 2:47 AM

      That’s a bit insulting since even at his tissue softest, Love can’t hold Bosch’s jock strap defensively on any day of the week, and Wade was at the tail end of his Hall of Fame prime while they were winning those championships. Irving’s ceiling simply doesn’t approach Wade although he is a good player.

  14. robigd - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    Still won’t beat the Spurs.

    • whoisferg - Jul 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM

      These Spurs comments are kind of funny. There is no doubt that this past season’s Finals, the Spurs played as well as any TEAM could play. There was very very few things they could have improved on. Every player hit above there average shooting percentage. Ginobli played better than he has in two years. Yet every Spurs fan thinks they will be able to exactly duplicate their efforts next season. Pat Riley had it right, “get a grip”. Meaning get a grip on reality. While they are still a very good team, the odds are greatly against the Spurs playing at that level EVER again.

      Thumbs down me all you want, but anyone who is a honest NBA fan knows what I am talking about.

  15. robigd - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:44 PM

    Bron is recruiting a role player who isn’t scared to take a game winning shot. He is smart. Gotta give him credit.

    • jvw1982 - Jul 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

      He is going to wish he recruited guys who can play defense when its all said and done…..Ray Allen best games are behind him but still a very good shooter, Miller good shooter slow on defense with back issues, Love can score and rebound and doesn’t play defense……they will have to outscore teams and good luck down the stretch when you need a stop

      • whoisferg - Jul 18, 2014 at 11:05 AM

        very good point.

  16. irvness21 - Jul 18, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    I really wanted him to consider the Wizards this year. My pipe dream was to have him be an ear for Beal and show Wall how to shoot. Im not sure if the Pierce signing killed this or if Washington never called. I think they could have made it work for a year.

    • ecnuob51 - Jul 18, 2014 at 10:51 AM

      I really like that idea. Just don’t think way would waste a year there

  17. ans2034 - Jul 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    To be honest, Ray will do what Ray wants to do. He’s got the rings, he’s had a good career. I don’t think he can be swayed by Mike Miller of all people.

    I think wherever he ends up Miami, Cavs, Houston or somewhere else, it will be because he wants to be there.

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