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With Lance Stephenson gone, Pacers reportedly sign Rodney Stuckey

Jul 16, 2014, 8:16 PM EDT

Update: It’s official.

Sam Amick of USA Today:

 

You want to know why you work hard to keep Lance Stephenson in Indiana? This next sentence explains it.

With Stephenson gone the Pacers have turned their sights to Rodney Stuckey to fill that role.

That according to Marc Stein at ESPN:

Stuckey is a volume scorer. Like Stephenson he attacks the rim aggressively, has a decent midrange game, but he’s not going to get boards or dish out assists. Plus, Stuckey is just not efficient — he put up 13.9 points a game last season but with a below averaged true shooting percentage of .516.

Stuckey’s a sixth man candidate in my mind, but we’re at the point in free agency where the Pacers are not going to have a lot of good options because those guys are off the board.

  1. bball242322 - Jul 16, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    Damn Larry, this is what u have in mind to replace Lance’s production…? U gotta make a big move Larry, Stuckey isn’t going to cut it

    • csbanter - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:23 PM

      Larry Bird should be calling the Knicks about Iman Shumpert.

      • dls612 - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:37 PM

        Why the heck would knicks do any business with a conference rival. But then again we’re talking about the knicks! I’m so glad that pat Riley runs the show in Miami

      • bball242322 - Jul 17, 2014 at 4:06 PM

        damn that would be nice, Iman and PG, that’s a nice wing combo right there

  2. 4thquartermagic - Jul 16, 2014 at 6:42 PM

    Both the Pacers and Rockets got worse this offseason.

    • 2016olympics - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:10 PM

      Nets too.

  3. weaselpuppy - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    Well, at least they get the bad lockerroom presence replaced….

    • papichulo55 - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:02 PM

      You still have the lockerroom affected by one All-Star sleeping with another All-Stars lady. Hard to believe that Lance’s departure solved that problem too.

      • johnc44 - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:31 PM

        Have any of you people who say George is the problem watched the Pacers?
        George & Hibbert are fine.Lance is the one who pissed off Hibbert,Hill,Turner & George.Remember how George reacted when asked after the season if he wanted Lance back?The Pacers were a very good team because of their chemistry not their great talent.It`s not a coincidence that the chemistry blew up as soon as Lance started hearing people talk about Lance.He started caring about getting paid instead of winning and they went from 33-8 to 21-20 if you actually watched the games and know anything about basketball it was obvious.

  4. garlandchapko - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    sorry but it looks like Stuckey is the best 2 guard left on the market, he will be cheap and put up good numbers but he cant shoot the 3 though.

    • patsmiley - Jul 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM

      He averaged 0.3 Three pointers a game last year, hard to say he was their best option available.

  5. zoomy123 - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    So, there’s only 4 championship contending teams next season: 1) San Antonio; 2) LA Clippers; 3) Oklahoma City; and 4) Chicago.

    • bougin89 - Jul 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM

      Chicago may make it out of the east but there are so many IF’s with them. IF Rose is healthy, IF Rose is healthy and playing like an all-star again…

      You cannot rule out the Cavs and Pacers yet. Although the Pacers did get worse this offseason by losing Lance the only team that’s been better than them in the East the last two seasons has been the Heat.

      The only thing that has remained the same is the West looks to have more quality and contending teams.

      • zoomy123 - Jul 17, 2014 at 9:58 AM

        The Pacers’ offense last year was wretched, how can losing Lance Stephenson and replacing him with Rodney Stuckey make them more likely to win a championship? Indiana’s offense is going to be like watching someone play basketball with a dumbbell. The Cavs had a 19th ranked defense last year, and no team has ever won a championship with a defense ranked outside the top 10. Lebron James is a cyborg…but he’s not a god, lol.

        Plus, I’m not talking about who can win the East, I’m talking about title contenders. These are teams that can legitimately win a title, and Indiana + the Cavs don’t qualify.

      • bougin89 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:02 AM

        The Cavs roster has been turned upside down. That isn’t just Lebron. Wiggins will also be a quality defender from the get go. Bennett has looked much much better in summer league. Plus you throw in some of the lower role players like Mike Miller, etc. The Cavs will be much better, that should be clear…

        The Pacers losing Lance is a big loss. It’s what I wrote in my first reply. However, they were playing as bad as possible and still were the 2nd best team in East last year. I doubt they play THAT bad as a team again.

      • zoomy123 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:07 AM

        I don’t dispute that the Cavs will be better, I dispute that their defensive ranking will jump 9 spots in 1 season with defenders like Irving, Waiters, et al. Lebron James + a rookie don’t improve your defense that much.

        Also, you’re not paying attention to what I write: I’m not saying the Pacers can’t get out of the East, I’m saying that they have pretty much no chance to win a title, which means they aren’t title contenders.

      • bougin89 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:09 AM

        Okay, but Chicago is?

      • zoomy123 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21 AM

        Yes. I have no reason to think that Rose isn’t healthy. If he gets injured again, then obviously CHI is not a title contender. But that team has a top 3 defense and they added Gasol + that kid McDermott can shoot lights out. You can easily see them winning a title.

      • bougin89 - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:37 PM

        Not only does Rose have to be healthy, he needs to play like pre-injured knee Rose, which he hasn’t shown yet. That’s the biggest IF.

        Gasol is a nice addition and he’s definitely an upgrade over Boozer but him and McDermott aren’t going to be the difference makers in a title run.

      • zoomy123 - Jul 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM

        If Rose is healthy and plays at an All-Star level, then the Bulls are title contenders. If Rose doesn’t play at that level, then the Bulls aren’t title contenders. It’s not a matter of “if.” It either happens or it doesn’t.

        Chicago already had a top 3 difference, the only thing they were missing were offense/shot creators; Gasol, McDermott, Mirotic + Rose now give the Bulls this ability.

      • bougin89 - Jul 18, 2014 at 9:47 AM

        If Rose is healthy and plays at an All-Star level, then the Bulls are title contenders. If Rose doesn’t play at that level, then the Bulls aren’t title contenders. It’s not a matter of “if.”

        You just contradicted yourself. Of course it’s a huge IF. You even started your sentence with If…

      • zoomy123 - Jul 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM

        What I meant to write is that it’s not a matter of a “big if,” but you can’t edit posts on PBT, so…

        In any event, like I said, Rose is currently healthy. He was healthy and had all his explosion last year. He was rusty but he still had all the physical athleticism he previously had. Tearing his meniscus was the same thing that happened to Russell Westbrook and Russ was beasting in the playoffs. A meniscus tear isn’t a chronic knee injury; once it’s healed, it’s healed.

        But if you like I can revise it to there are only 3 title contenders and 1 potential title contender. So, nothing I said has really changed.

      • bougin89 - Jul 18, 2014 at 10:12 AM

        For what it’s worth I hope Rose does come back with vengeance and plays like the MVP Rose. It would be great for the NBA. I just have more doubt that he can than you do. We can agree to disagree.

      • johnc44 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:29 AM

        The Pacers offense was good enough to be 33-8 until Lance got away from the team concept on ball movement and started playing 1 on 1 so i think the offense can be better without Lance.I`m more worried about someone picking up the rebounding slack than the scoring because while you guys seem to think his 1 on 1 offense was important i thought it ruined the team.There is a difference between having good offensive skills and being good for a team`s offense.Look at the Spurs.How many pound the rock 1 on 1 players do they have?Their offense looked pretty good as a team though.

  6. csbanter - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    So fiddy cent leaving Motown for Naptown

  7. jamnastyjay - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    Maybe this move will hold the bigs accountable for rebounding and the Point accountable for distributing and not a 2 guard acting like he’s at Rucker park… Lance got too big for his britches.. The pacers will be fine without him as long as Paul and Roy pull their weight

  8. doughboy86 - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:07 PM

    I believe we got better for our bench with this Stuckey pick up the also European Daman Rudez & hopefully Copeland in the mix. But we can blame Larry Bird for Lance departure but if u ask me the other 4 starters put slot of pressure on themselves. & we’ve seen what happens when that is the case, but now they all have to step their game up (Hill Hibbert) . If they really wanted a championship all 4 in my eyes are overpaid this year not so much D. West but esp Hibbert $14m & Hill $9m those two damn sure could have took pay cuts to keep Stephenson but hey it’s all about the $$ when you’ve never tasted a championship. We get what we deserve this year Finals or bust

    • bkbell3 - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:29 AM

      Doughboy, In the nba you can’t redo your contract like in the nfl. They would have to be free agents or have some kind of player option to opt out or an early termination option to sign a new and maybe lowered contract. Plus guys earn their contracts and shouldn’t have to take less than they can get. Lance’s offer in most years would be fair for his age and numbers but some of these contracts given out to average guys is crazy and skewed the market. Esp. haywoods’ 16mil per year and parson’s 15mil per year. Also guys like bradley in boston geting over 8 mil per.It looks like on a couple of years the owners are going to need to be protected from themselves again. smh

  9. onlyavoice - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    You all do know that Bird is a big time alcoholic.
    One can’t make clear decisions when intoxicated.

  10. ryanprzy - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    As a lifelong Pistons fan who has watched Stuckey for the past seven years, I can truly say you’re getting a hard-nosed, dedicated, team player that–

    BWAHAHAHA!!!!! I just can’t do it…. I just can’t…

    That’s a HORRIBLE consolation prize!

    • bkbell3 - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:31 AM

      funny

      • ryanprzy - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:42 AM

        I was going for this effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS5hcGQWtQU

  11. jadaruler - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    I swear the I thought Lance was a great fit for Charlotte. This morning he signs with them. This afternoon I thought Stuckey would be a good fit to fill the tweener role that Lance had.

    I would either make a crappy gm or I have too much time on my hands at work.

    • ryanprzy - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:12 PM

      Stuckey is not a bad player, but he’s a major downgrade from Lance Stephenson. Stephenson is one of the best players in the NBA, and Stuckey just can’t do all the things that Stephenson can. So that sucks for the Pacers.

      • thecorduroyman - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:27 PM

        Stephenson is one of the best in the nba? Really?

        Best and superstar are thrown around so loosely. Wait till someone earns it. Paul George got the title too soon. Lillard, as well. But to say “Stephenson is one of the best players in the nba is an insult to about 30 other players I can think of off the top of my head.

      • ryanprzy - Jul 16, 2014 at 11:11 PM

        Yeah I used “one of the best” a little loosely.

        I just like his skill set. The way he doesn’t need to be the primary or even second scoring option on a contending team — while still bringing all the other things that are conducive to winning — swayed me a bit.

  12. metalhead65 - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    the way vogel uses his bench he better shoot it any time he sees the court, honestly I do not know why they keep signing or trading for guys to score off the bench if the coach reuses to use them. still am trying to figure out why they signed copeland and then vogel did not use him. did he not know what he was getting when they signed him? he was signed for his outside shooting then sat on the bench all year while they struggled with that whenever they went to the bench. I don’t know if scola was hurt in the second half or what but it seemed like he was not on the court very much either and he was brought in to score.unless vogel adjust his system it looks like they are wasting money.

    • weaselpuppy - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:58 PM

      Oh don’t worry, stinky will jack it up outside of the flow of the offense every second he is on the floor…

  13. money2long - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:36 PM

    I like this signing unlike many of you who are pooh pooh’ing it.
    In fact, I won’t be surprised if the pacers ran stuckey at the point guard some because George hill isn’t always inspiring.

    • johnc44 - Jul 16, 2014 at 11:23 PM

      They were over the cap,already used the MLE on Miles & Rudez & used the bi annual exemption on CJ Watson last season so they could only offer a minimum salary.Stuckey won`t replace Lance on the court but getting a guy who`s averaged double figures 6 straight seasons for a minimum salary is good value and about the best they could expect at this point.

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