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Could getting Chandler Parsons cost Dallas Vince Carter and/or Shawn Marion?

Jul 11, 2014, 10:46 AM EDT

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The Dallas Mavericks made an aggressive, bold play to get Chandler Parsons out of Houston. They signed him to a three year, $46 million offer sheet (with a player option in the third year and a 15 percent trade kicker) and, after a short delay to discuss a sign-and-trade deal that fell apart, presented that offer to the Rockets.

Here’s why that’s a brilliant stroke:

Houston had 72 hours from the time they got the offer to match. Houston also has a proposed max offer for Chris Bosh out there — but Bosh is not making a decision until LeBron James does because if LeBron goes to Miami Bosh is going back, too. Houston does not have the cap space to match Parsons then make its offer to Bosh. Instead they have to make a series of trades to move Jeremy Lin and others to clear out cap room, sign Bosh to a near max deal then they can match Parsons, but that is going to be a lot to get done in the little more than 48 hours left. The clock is ticking and Houston may have to choose Parsons or gamble on Bosh.

Dallas has made sacrifices here too.

To clear out cap room for the Parsons offer Dallas had to renounce their Bird rights (and remove the cap holds) for Dirk Nowitzki, Shawn Marion and Vince Carter.

That’s not a big deal in this sense — they can still re-sign those guys. What it means is they can’t offer the oversized home-team contracts and can’t go over the cap to sign those guys. However, Nowitzki already said he was returning to the Mavericks at a discount, so that is moot — they can sign him to a three year contract in the $10 million range (our own Dan Feldman projects if Dallas gets Parsons and renounces other players still on roster, then back load Devin Harris’ contract the most Nowitzki can make for three years is $29,542,328).

If Dallas gets Parsons they will use the remaining cap space they have to get Harris and Nowitzki signed.

But that means they can use the room exception (two years, $2.7 million per year) for Carter or Marion, then the other gets a minimum offer at best.

Both of those guys had good years and will have other teams making calls and inquiring. If Marion gets a minimum contract offer from Dallas but also gets one from Miami or Cleveland (whatever LeBron chooses) will he go chase a ring there? What if another team with cap space comes in a little over the minimum, or offers their biannual exception?

Obviously, as good as Carter and Marion played for Dallas last season, Parsons brings a lot more to the table and younger. But Dallas wanted both those guys back and if Parsons arrives there will be questions. (If Houston matches, Dallas will have room to make better offers.)

  1. djlexluger - Jul 11, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    Not sure if they are losing much.

  2. jammer73 - Jul 11, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Who cares? Vince Carter and Shawn Marion shouldn’t even be in the league anymore. They have nothing left in the tank and need to retire.

    • wlubake - Jul 11, 2014 at 12:29 PM

      Says a guy who clearly didn’t watch the Mavs last year.

      Vince – 11.9 ppg, 2.6 apg, 3.5 rpg, .398 from 3, 15.97 PER
      Shawn – 10.4 ppg, 1.6 apg, 6.5 rpg, 13.78 PER, tough to measure defending 4 positions

      They are far from “done”, but need to have their roles reduced.

  3. 00maltliquor - Jul 11, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Without even reading the article….

    A: Most likely
    B: Who cares?
    C: All of the above

    Answer- C

    This isn’t 2003.

    • elcapitanfiscal - Jul 11, 2014 at 11:40 AM

      D: you care enough to read and comment.

      • 00maltliquor - Jul 11, 2014 at 11:46 AM

        Applaud yourself for not understanding

        1) I didn’t read the article, I clearly stated that.

        2) I’m just answering the question posed in the header.

        Better luck next time, but keep coming back 😃

    • 00maltliquor - Jul 11, 2014 at 11:56 AM

      Clarification; before I get more of the elcapitanfiscal type…

      We are talking about Chandler Parsons here. VS retaining an old a__ VC and Shawn Marion. This is a no-brainer. If HOU was to do a trade proposal to DAL last year and said, “Hey guys, we would like to make a trade with you. We want Vince Carter and Shawn Marion, and for your troubles we’ll give you Chandler Parsons in return. ”

      Yeah, please believe ALL of us would have said yes before DAL’s GM said “in return”.

  4. daburgh1985 - Jul 11, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Since Melo probably won’t be re-signing w/LA…we should go after Marion and VC…at least they would be some decent veteran pieces off the bench…

  5. wlubake - Jul 11, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    Carter will be back with the room exception. Marion will likely move on. If Dallas had been clearing space for, say LeBron, Marion would absolutely sign at the minimum. With Parsons as the major upgrade, he’ll go find a contender elsewhere.

    Keep in mind that Dallas can still salary dump Felton and/or Wright if they can fit someone in that space. For instance, if they could fit Isaiah Thomas and Shawn Marion in the about $9M of cap space for Felton/Wright, would they do that then go sign a vet min big to back up Chandler? There is room to work still.

  6. 8to80texansblog - Jul 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    Looks like it doesn’t matter. Lebron to Cleveland starts the dominoes. Bosh to Houston, Parsons back to Houston, Rockets win the West. Meet Lebron in the Finals and Lebrons Lone Star losing continues as a 3rd Texas team bounces him.

    Book it.

  7. garybrian - Jul 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    Carter to the Raptors might be a nice way for Vince to finish his career and get some recognition for what he did in a Toronto in the early days.

  8. muhangis - Jul 11, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    They aren’t losing much in a very aging Vince Carter and Shawn Marion – they’re two guys who’ve been on a downslide for awhile. Much better off with Parsons.

  9. itmgrindmachines - Jul 11, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Yes he agreed to a discount but still.. How is Parsons making more than Dirk?

  10. rohlo - Jul 11, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 2h
    Houston and Chris Bosh moving quickly on securing deal, and with Bosh, Rockets will match Chandler Parsons offer sheet, source tells Yahoo.

  11. eugenesaxe1 - Jul 11, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    I’d much rather have the young guy who’s still growing into the pro game.

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