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Pistons signing Jodie Meeks to three-year, $19 million-plus contract

Jul 1, 2014, 5:18 PM EDT

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Joe Dumars Stan Van Gundy is not shy about spending the Pistons’ cap room on middling free agents.

A year after Dumars coveted whatever it is Josh Smith is supposed to bring (defense and athleticism, I suppose), Van Gundy’s goals are a little more transparent.

He wants shooting.

Detroit’s new president/coach will get that in Jodie Meeks and Cartier Martin. At least in the case of Meeks, though, Van Gundy is paying a premium.

Meeks made a career-high 40.1 percent of his 3-pointers for the Lakers last season. If he maintains that level, he might be worth that contract.

But he was also playing for Mike D’Antoni, whose system boosts outside shooters, and Meeks’ career 3-point percentage (36.7) is not much above the league average.

Maybe the Pistons think the 26-year-old broke through – or even has room to grow. Personally, I see a solid role player who won’t try to do too much. He’ll make more than his share of outside shots and defend well enough to warrant consistent playing time. I don’t see much upside remaining.

Meeks can’t officially sign until July 10, but these types of deals rarely, if ever, fall through.

If Martin is on a minimum contract – and that’s the most likely outcome – he could sign at any time. But the Pistons, to preserve their cap room, would likely sign him after using the rest of their cap room. They entered free agency with a projected $13,615,136 to spend beyond re-signing Greg Monroe and using the room exception.

Marin, 29, is a gritty wing player who’s an end-of-bench type. He’s also a 38.3 career 3-point shooter – actually higher than Meeks’ career 37.6 percent. If what you see is what you get with Martin, the Pistons did well on him.

If what you see is what you get with Meeks, the signing is questionable to say the least.

  1. cheeks9441 - Jul 1, 2014 at 5:21 PM

    Wow. I would have thought maybe 3 years, $12 million.

  2. kinggw - Jul 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    Lots of bad teams have cap space, we are going to see a lot more of this.

    • spursareold - Jul 1, 2014 at 6:01 PM

      Sadly, that’s true.

  3. therealhtj - Jul 1, 2014 at 5:36 PM

    Josh Smith just said “They gave WHO, HOW MUCH?”

    • stoudemelo - Jul 1, 2014 at 6:31 PM

      Josh Smith looked at his contract and thought “that’s about right”

    • paleihe - Jul 1, 2014 at 7:15 PM

      “I can shoot better than him.”

      – Josh Smith

    • macka4 - Jul 2, 2014 at 3:28 AM

      Must have meant (Smith) himself. Been goin’ on for too long. Jon Koncak, Hot Rod Williams, Juwan Howard. Fair to slightly above avg players getting paid too handsomely.

  4. spursareold - Jul 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    It’s not the MAX contracts that kill you, unless you are Miami. It’s piling up full MLE deals for role players. I like Jody Meeks, but I would offer him half to two thirds of that.

  5. cantonbound13 - Jul 1, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    Is Isiah Thomas getting involved?

    • brookwell2013 - Jul 1, 2014 at 7:20 PM

      Ha ha ha ha ha!! Perfectly put Cantonbound!!!! Maybe the franchise killer is still lurking in Detroit somehow!! Good for Meeks, but that deal is a bit rich, like some other posters I was thinking 3 yr $12mil neighborhood…..

  6. rrhoe - Jul 1, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    Damn,he better sign before they wake up!!!!

  7. genericcommenter - Jul 1, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    Maybe Steve Blake should ask for the full MLE from Miami.

    • therealhtj - Jul 1, 2014 at 7:17 PM

      If Meeks is getting 6.3/yr, Blake is worth 8. All Meeks can do is spot up and shoot 3’s, usually poorly, then once in like every 5 games, goes unconscious.

      Blake can handle the rock, play either guard spot, and shoot the 3 fairly effectively. Not saying he should get anywhere near 8mil, but something in the 4-5/yr for 2-3 seasons is likely.

      • 00maltliquor - Jul 1, 2014 at 9:05 PM

        No. Just no.


      • genericcommenter - Jul 2, 2014 at 11:31 AM

        I probably wouldn’t go that far. I’m a fan of Steve Blake (went to same school at same time), but I figured the $4 million he’s been making is about his max value and that he might have to take a lower deal. So I was just saying if Meeks is worth this, it’s not far-fetched that someone like Blake- who shoots close to 40% from 3 for his career and has shown he’s a capable backup at both guard spots- could probably command a little more than expected, too.

    • macka4 - Jul 2, 2014 at 3:29 AM

      Maybe he will. Remember Latrell Sprewell quit on a solid 2 yr offer from T Wolves. Never played again in the league.

      • genericcommenter - Jul 2, 2014 at 11:32 AM

        I thought he couldn’t feed his kids on $21million over 3 years, but it’s been awhile.

  8. saint1997 - Jul 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    They know they gotta move Monroe this offseason for the team to make any sense

  9. sportsfan18 - Jul 1, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    well… GOTTA pay a premium to get guys to even go to Detroit, let alone play and live around there…

    • sportsfan18 - Jul 1, 2014 at 7:14 PM

      “It takes an average of 58 minutes — nearly an hour — for Detroit police to respond to any call, whether top priority or routine. The fastest response time for any precinct in the city is 31 minutes; the longest is 115 minutes, or almost two hours.”

      uh, even the cops KNOW not to go there…

    • sportsfan18 - Jul 1, 2014 at 7:15 PM

      It takes 58 min’s for cops to respond to the HIGHEST priority crimes…–a-911-response-in-detroit-takes-how-long

      • grumpyoleman - Jul 2, 2014 at 9:22 AM

        You do realize that article is a year old and changes have been made since then.

      • sportsfan18 - Jul 2, 2014 at 12:24 PM

        yep, MORE vacant houses there now…

        MORE street lights turned off to save money…

        MORE debt for the city…

        ah… changes… change is good…

    • sportsfan18 - Jul 1, 2014 at 7:17 PM

      Stabbings? Shootings? Detroit police stop reporting violent crimes to media, public

      Is Detroit suddenly safer?

      You might think so by picking up the newspaper or watching TV news because police have stopped reporting most murders, shootings and other violent crimes to the media and public.

      Instead, the police department is releasing information on successful arrests.

      “It lets our citizens know that we are in fact making arrests and solving crime,” police spokesman Sgt. Michael Woody told me.

      In the meantime, the public is left in the dark about violent crime and wanted suspects.

      The police department quietly stopped issuing the “Major Crime Summary Report” following the death of radio personality and activist, Angelo Henderson, who spoke daily about the crime report and the wanted suspects on his radio show.

    • sportsfan18 - Jul 1, 2014 at 7:19 PM

      In 2012, Detroit had the highest rate of violent crime of any city over 200,000 in the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Uniform Crime Reports, with the proviso that such statistics are unreliable for comparing cities.[1] Annual increases in homicides, combined with a shrinking population, have made Detroit competitive with New Orleans for the highest murder rate in the nation.[2]

  10. 2016olympics - Jul 1, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    What is D’Antoni’s cut?

  11. chiadam - Jul 1, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    What is the “room” exception?

    • smoothaswilkes - Jul 1, 2014 at 7:22 PM

      From Zach Lowe on Grantland:

      “The ‘room exception’ is a special salary slot for teams that start under the cap and then spend up to it. It allows those teams to go over the cap while signing a contract that starts at about $2.5 million. Teams can also split that among multiple players. “

  12. luz56 - Jul 1, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    Trying to spend up to the cap creates problems down the road.. Average players at best getting star like dollars is fine today but tomorrow upper tier players dollars just went thru the roof… Just seeing that with NHL today…

  13. antistratfordian - Jul 1, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    I don’t know. His agent could’ve argued that he had a superior PER to Klay Thompson and Bradley Beal and the same as Lance Stephenson, and that there aren’t many guards out there who played over 2500 minutes and shot over 40 percent from three. $6 mil a year seems to be about the right amount if you’re looking at how much other similarly performing guards are making. A guy like Wesley Matthews is making about a million more than that annually for about the same production.

    • muhangis - Jul 1, 2014 at 9:40 PM

      Antistratfordian, it seems like you are simply putting really low bar standard or bar for intellgient decision making and you specialize in constant excuses for poor mental judgment and haphazard common sense.

      [Antistratfordian logic] Yeah cause other teams are making bad moves that excuses us to make bad moves our selves..

      • antistratfordian - Jul 1, 2014 at 9:42 PM

        Who is us? And I’m not judging the move as good or bad because I really don’t care what the Pistons do – I’m saying based on what other similar players are getting, and based on what he did last year, it’s not out of order.

  14. fordmandalay - Jul 1, 2014 at 8:51 PM

    His best talent is clearing money and room for the Lakers to get someone better.

  15. JT - Jul 1, 2014 at 9:33 PM

    3/12 Max for Meeks I would’ve hit him with 3/9
    Stan overpaying, man it’s something about Detroit and free agents

  16. enigma2742 - Jul 1, 2014 at 11:09 PM


    • money2long - Jul 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM

      More than chalmers.

  17. stephenlin - Jul 2, 2014 at 2:37 AM

    I’m happy for him. He worked hard and smart, and really rounded out his game in the past season or two. I hope he continues that trend with Detroit.

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