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Report: Bucks offer second-round pick as compensation for Jason Kidd

Jun 29, 2014, 10:45 PM EDT

The Nets have already decided that Jason Kidd won’t be back next season, after he unsuccessfully made a bold move to try to gain far more power within the organization.

The Bucks were the team Kidd used as leverage, and it’s believed that Kidd will end up there in some capacity. But in order for that to happen, Milwaukee and Brooklyn need to agree on compensation for the Nets letting Kidd out of his contract, and so far that has been problematic, for somewhat obvious reasons.

The Nets are demanding a first round pick, while the Bucks seem steadfast in being only willing to part with a single second round pick instead.

From Andy Katz of ESPN.com:

Jason Kidd will be the next head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks if the Brooklyn Nets agree to the Bucks’ terms of a 2015 second-round draft pick in exchange for Kidd, a source with direct knowledge told ESPN Sunday.

The source said the Bucks offered a second-round pick, but the Nets wanted a 2015 first-round pick in exchange, a negotiating chip the Bucks originally dismissed.

“If the Nets agree then there will be a deal, if they don’t then (the Bucks) are comfortable moving on and there will be nothing further to talk about,” said the source. “The only thing (the Bucks) would give them is a second-round pick. They want a first. In the next 24 hours, there will either be a deal or there won’t be a deal.”

The source said the Bucks only talked to Kidd about being the coach, not any kind of administrative position running basketball operations.

That last part is the most interesting in all of this, for a couple of very specific reasons.

First of all, the Bucks already have a head coach — not a great one in Larry Drew, but that’s beside the point. Ownership going out and shopping for his potential replacement while Drew has yet to be fired lacks any kind of professionalism whatsoever, and a move like that is far from the one a new ownership group wants to be associated with as its first major splash.

Then there’s the notion that Kidd would be content giving up a head coaching gig in Brooklyn to merely take one in Milwaukee, with no additional duties or responsibilities being assigned. His wanting to work less in an executive role was a big reason for forcing the issue with Nets ownership, and if that’s not being offered with the Bucks, it would be difficult to see how a move like that for him personally ends up making any sense.

This whole thing is a mess for everyone involved. Brooklyn holds all the cards here by having Kidd under contract, and the team’s billionaire owner could force Kidd to stay that way and simply pay him to not do much at all. We’ll see who blinks first.

  1. doctorofsmuganomics - Jun 29, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    ha.

  2. thehawg - Jun 29, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    Nets should give the Bucks a draft pick.

  3. bronx77 - Jun 29, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    So either way the Bucks are getting rid of Larry Drew? How awkward would it be if this j. Kidd thing doesn’t work

  4. bkbell3 - Jun 29, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    I’m confused as to how kidd used the bucks as leverage with the nets when he sat down with them? If he had already talked to the bucks then how is that not tampering? And how would coaching the nets and taking on a front office role cause him to work less? I haven’t read anywhere including here that kidd wanted to give up his coaching role with the nets to take a front office job with the nets. He wanted to add that to his coaching duties from what i read everywhere including here.

  5. Gordon - Jun 29, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    Why should the Bucks give up anything more than a 2nd rounder? They can just wait for the Nets to fire him & pay them nothing.

    No one else wants Kidd.

  6. yesser12 - Jun 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    Why do NBA people think Kidd is a good coach? Bucks could have tried to get Mark Jackson and not give up a pick.

    • calkinsrob - Jun 30, 2014 at 12:16 PM

      The nets had a pretty good second half of the year without brook lopez. Id be willing to give him another shot. I think the nets organization are the crazy ones here to give up on him so soon. BUT i guess it all makes sense with these crazy stories out about kidd’s working relationship with everyone.

  7. jolink653 - Jun 29, 2014 at 11:38 PM

    Why would the Bucks give up anything? Kidd has clearly burned and demolished every bridge he had with the Nets and there’s no way in hell he’s coming back. All they have to do is wait for the Nets to cut him and pick him up for nothing.

    And this whole thing really suck for Larry Drew. He’s a pretty good coach and seems like a nice guy. How the Bucks can treat him like this so publicly is a disgrace. Watch this whole Kidd thing doesn’t work out and they’re forced to stick with Drew

    • sportsfan18 - Jun 29, 2014 at 11:51 PM

      Uh, the Russian is a Billionaire…

      he paid like $180 million for his players, even though they only had $60 million worth of talent.

      The Russian, could (don’t think he will, but could due to being worth $11 billion dollars) pay Kidd to stay away from the team but due to the contract Kidd could NOT coach any other team or join any front office etc…

      Oh, he’s NOT a nice guy, plead GUILTY to domestic abuse as he punched his wife in the mouth during an argument.

      Just get your popcorn and watch the fireworks…

  8. getlow81 - Jun 30, 2014 at 12:03 AM

    The Nets may have called Kidd’s bluff. But they are not even remotely in a power position if he said he wants more control and/or cash. If anything, they look more ridiculous by thinking they could get a 1st round pick. Doc Rivers, a champion head coach, with much more experience only got a future 1st.

    Cut the crap. Let him go. Hire someone else. Done.

  9. brianjoates - Jun 30, 2014 at 12:17 AM

    Kidd has an agent, he has not talked to anyone. Seems like a dbag move on his part, there must be more behind the scenes issues that the general public has no idea about.

    Drew now should have his agent get a nice bump in salary and years or get his buyout and move on. Drew can’t go back and coach this team without more money and years, he looks like a fool and a coach that will be fired any moment to the current roster of players.

  10. campcouch - Jun 30, 2014 at 12:31 AM

    The NBA…fire a guy but expect compensation from his next employer. The fact that you don’t have to pay him should be enough. Even Larry Drew wins out of this. He gets paid regardless and no doubt another job elsewhere if he’s let go.

  11. 00maltliquor - Jun 30, 2014 at 12:41 AM

    If BKN is done with Kidd, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE GIVE UP ANYTHING TO GET HIM INSTEAD OF JUST WAITING FOR HIM TO GET FIRED!!???

    This article brings up more questions than answers. Uggh.
    First round pick from anyone is laughable, but from the Bucks it’s pure insanity. It’s not like they are the Spurs who you know for a fact are gonna pick in the bottom 5 of the first round. The Bucks are the complete opposite so how would that make any sense for them to do that. BKN better JUMP at that high 2nd rounder before MIL wakes up and realizes they are getting fleeced.

    • bougin89 - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:38 AM

      The owners are trying to create a new era for the Bucks. File this under “any publicity is good publicity”. Hey, it’s working, when was the last time so many people were talking about the Bucks. As for the actual improvement of the coaching position? Yeah, I didn’t like this move either. I wasn’t a fan of hiring Larry Drew in the first place but I do not think Kidd is the answer.

      • 00maltliquor - Jun 30, 2014 at 11:40 AM

        Man I feel bad for you. I reallly hope it works out but it just feels like as soon as something good happens (drafting Parker), something bad has to follow (this mess).
        I’ve always low key rooted for the underdog Bucks but it’s always two steps forward, 3 steps back with your franchise.

      • bougin89 - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:29 PM

        Never make business personal. Seems like the Bucks owners did that with Jason Kidd…

  12. weaselpuppy - Jun 30, 2014 at 12:45 AM

    Kidd in charge of a young team needing to gel amid character issues? That is Larry Drew’s calling card. Kidd is a Richard with no experience and little ability. He’s just a big name and a big mouth….not what the Bucks need.

    I doubt they want him at all and it’s all a smokescreen from a poorly crafted plan in Kidd’s inadequate noggin….

    • bkbell3 - Jun 30, 2014 at 12:51 AM

      weaselpuppy, just asking,what is a Richard? Also one of the bucks owners used to be a part owner of the nets and was kidd’s financial adviser so they have an relationship. It does suck for Larry Drew, very unprofessional.

      • 00maltliquor - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:09 AM

        Why you gotta censor my reply pbt!? I was answering this man’s question.

      • bkbell3 - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:22 AM

        00maltliquor, thanks, but it came to me, I guess i’m a little this morning and i’ve haven’t even been drinking.lol Thanks anyway

      • bkbell3 - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:23 AM

        slow,crap

  13. rajbais - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:09 AM

    That’s why the draft should only be one round.

    Second rd picks are nothing, but useless trading pieces. Instead, cash for tax should be the trade-off.

    • jvw1982 - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:39 AM

      Couldn’t disagree more with this…..there a plenty of very good players who came from the 2nd round….Chandler Parsons, Manu Ginobli, Carlos Boozer, Marc Gasol, Stephenson, Gortat, Goran Dragic just to name a few…..Nets should take it an move on but they won’t probably because of the blatant tampering by the bucks….

      • twinfan24 - Jun 30, 2014 at 2:11 AM

        And, there used to be good players found in the 3rd round, 4th round, etc., so why don’t they still have those rounds? Sure, some 2nd rounders pan out, but the vast majority are lucky to make a roster. The entire NBA draft is kind of a crap shoot and the 2nd round is much more of a crap shoot than the 1st round.

      • rajbais - Jul 1, 2014 at 1:46 AM

        Your response is outliers??

        I don’t want 2 rounds anymore because undrafted players w/o agents can go back to school, refine their skills, and sign as a free agent and get a guaranteed contract. It’s CBA-approved.

  14. jrob23 - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:16 AM

    New Bucks ownership is absolutely right to want to hire their own guy. Kidd is absolutely smart to want to get out of that cesspool New Jersey. The bucks have some interesting young talent that could develop nicely. The Nets are going nowhere fast, that is a sinking ship. The move wouldn’t be lateral, it would be a step up for all involved. And the Nets get a 2nd. Probably won’t happen though

  15. marcusfitzhugh - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:26 AM

    The article says Kidd used the Bucks as leverage. Whether he spoke to them or his agent, or anyone connected to him or his agent, that’s tampering. Kidd can be fired without any severance for conduct detrimental to the club and the Bucks owe the Nets, whether they sign Kidd or not. It wouldn’t go to court, because the NBA doesn’t want more dirty laundry aired, but under normal contract laws, you mess with a contract between two parties, and everybody gets sued. How many draft picks did Miami give up when Riles, while under contract to the Knicks, decided to take his talents to South Beach?

    • theblackrook - Jun 30, 2014 at 3:01 AM

      do you actually know the rules of tampering… do you know what it actually entails as far as the NBA guidelines are concerned. shut up if you dont

      • marcusfitzhugh - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM

        Actually, I do. Its sounds like you don’t. How about you explain what you don’t understand.

      • marcusfitzhugh - Jun 30, 2014 at 11:01 AM

        In July of 2008, the league sent a memo to all 30 NBA teams that detail tampering. It defines tampering as discussing any person under contract with another NBA team. It further defines discussions as conversations with anyone outside of an organization through direct or indirect contact. It states penalties can include suspension, prohibition of the offending team from hiring the person being tampered with, forfeiture of draft picks and individual and/or team fines of up to $5 million.

        This article says “The Bucks were the team Kidd used as leverage”. Kidd, as a coach, would be under contract to the Nets. Did Kidd, or a representative of Kidd have a conversation with a representative of the Milwaukee Bucks, either through direct or indirect means? If not, exactly how did Kidd use the Bucks as leverage without any contact with anyone within the Bucks organization? Since you don’t know what you’re talking about, I’ll understand if you don’t respond.

  16. bknowledge - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:44 AM

    Bucks can have Kidd, if he takes Deron with him to Milwaukee…no pick required as compensation…

    • marcusfitzhugh - Jun 30, 2014 at 2:02 AM

      Don’t let them off easy. Tampering is tampering. Miami had to give up a first round pick and cash when they tampered with Riley. Milwaukee should have to forfeit their first, their second, cash, take Deron AND give him an extension. The owners need a deterrent. Teams can’t be allowed to mess with players and coaches who are under contract. The commissioner has to come down hard.

  17. antistratfordian - Jun 30, 2014 at 2:25 AM

    Meh. Not even following this story. Kidd goes to the Bucks, Jackson goes to the Nets… whatever. Now hurry up and post another Heat story!

    • bougin89 - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:51 AM

      This is exactly why the Bucks made this move. The owners are generating a buzz. You’re even commenting on a Bucks article.

      As for this helping the Bucks actually win games next season? Nah, Kidd doesn’t help us at all.

      • jrob23 - Jun 30, 2014 at 12:25 PM

        us? you on that team? yeah, I’m sure a guy who has proven he can coach, had a HOF career as a PG (a very translatable skill set to coaching) can offer nothing to the Bucks.

      • bougin89 - Jun 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM

        Sure PG’s often translate into successful coaches, that’s far from the only factor here…

        For a really young team I don’t want a guy with a history of off court issues leading the team I root for.(You’re comment of ‘us’ was pedestrian at best, i mean us as in the fans of the Bucks). Kidd was laughable at best to start last year. Taking a call on his cell phone during a summer league game, the water incident, the way he handled the Frank demotion, etc. Yeah, real leadership there. He doesn’t have a track record as teacher/mentor type of coach, which is what the Bucks need.

        Good job on the PG reference though, if that’s what you’re clinging to, welp.

      • antistratfordian - Jun 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM

        Don’t be so down on Kidd. I think he’s going to surprise you… basically like he surprised everyone in the 2nd half of last year.

        I approve of his philosophy, which is Jackson-ish – maybe his implementation is slightly questionable, but hey, at least you know he will do absolutely anything to win a game.

      • bougin89 - Jul 1, 2014 at 9:19 AM

        True enough. I’m more worried about him as a person. Is this the guy that can get the guy we’ve hitched our wagon to(Larry Sanders) back onto the right path? I guess we’ll see.

      • antistratfordian - Jul 1, 2014 at 1:13 PM

        Yeah, that’s a fair point considering the news he’s made. But we don’t know him – maybe you should give him the benefit of the doubt to start. You actually have no choice but to do that unless you want to be pessimistic all the time.

      • bougin89 - Jul 1, 2014 at 1:59 PM

        Nah.

        The owners succeeded in generating buzz about the Bucks. Mission accomplished.

      • antistratfordian - Jul 1, 2014 at 2:10 PM

        Ha. It sounds like you’re going to be miserable this year. But Kidd could teach those young Bucks a lot about how to see the floor and read a game.

      • bougin89 - Jul 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM

        No I’m good. I don’t mind watching young guys that have potential. Giannis is an exciting player to watch. Dude is seriously athletic.

        Plus I knew when they decided to rebuild it wouldn’t be a one year process. Ideally we will have the #2 pick again next year while playing Giannis, Jabari, and Henson about 25-30 minutes a night and seeing if they can compliment each other.

        Overall Wisconsin has had a fantastic year for basketball this past year. UWGB & the Badgers had really good seasons.

      • antistratfordian - Jul 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM

        I really like Giannis… or, the idea of what he is supposed to turn into. And I like Parker to go along with him.

        Honestly, for a scorer like Parker, the best thing for him is to spend a lot of time around Jason Kidd – turn him into a complete player.

  18. onbucky96 - Jun 30, 2014 at 6:26 AM

    Give the Czar a 1st if the Nets take that lazy slug Sanders with his fat contract.

  19. ravenswhat - Jun 30, 2014 at 7:02 AM

    And this is why the Bucks are the Bucks. Can you imagine a team like the Lakers or Celtics offering a 2nd rd pick for this loser?

    • bougin89 - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM

      Do you think the Bucks owners are doing this because they think Kidd is an awesome coach?

      Please, they did this for publicity. “Any publicity is good publicity.”

      When is the last time a Bucks article had so many people commenting on it?

  20. 1historian - Jun 30, 2014 at 7:11 AM

    Organizations WIN championships.

    And they DON’T win championships.

    Arguing over Jason Kidd and making deals with the Celtics like the one they made last year is NOT the sign of a good organization.

    In 2 years those #1 picks will be lottery picks, just when the Celts need them most.

    Heh heh

  21. smackingfools - Jun 30, 2014 at 8:19 AM

    You mean, kid.

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