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Report: 76ers never tried to trade for No. 1 pick

Jun 27, 2014, 10:40 AM EDT

Repeatedly, we heard about the 76ers’ desire to trade up to No. 1.

First, they reportedly offered No. 3 and Thaddeus Young. Then it became No. 3, No. 10 and No. 32.

Philadelphia seemed motivated.

But was it all a smokescreen?

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports:

Does this also mean the 76ers’ infatuation with Wiggins was also a misdirection? They weren’t getting him at No. 3, where they ultimately took Joel Embiid.

I’m not totally convinced Philadelphia never made a play for the top pick.

Wojnarowski has been around a long time and is reliable as they come, but that doesn’t change that it’s logically impossible to prove something didn’t happen. This really comes to how much you trust that Wojnarowski trusts his anonymous source.

Anyone in position to know might just be pushing an agenda. After all, that’s what Wojnarowski is essentially saying other reporters’ sources did.

Maybe the Cavaliers want to protect themselves from criticism for passing on a trade if Andrew Wiggins busts. Maybe the 76ers want to avoid criticism for failing to complete their trade objective. There is definitely potential for either team to steer the narrative the direction Wojnarowski has taken it.

Without a name on the source to judge his or her intent, it’s difficult to fully trust this – especially because logic precludes Wojnarowski himself from doing anything more than trusting his source. There’s just no way for anyone to verify it.

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  1. jeffkx - Jun 27, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    I don’t believe it..they tanked an entire season to get the guy..this has a feel of the time when I asked the hottest girl at the school to prom, she said no, then I told everyone (who btw did not believe me) I didn’t really ask her..come on guys…

    • thesixersbench - Jun 27, 2014 at 3:19 PM

      I think from the very moment Embiid got hurt they were hoping he’d fall to them (assuming their doctors cleared him).

  2. garypagetwo - Jun 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    on this site it’s Cavs . or more stories of the 76ers .. In years to come. they will wish there were talking about the Bucks

    • kinggw - Jun 27, 2014 at 11:12 AM

      What is there to talk about? They have a nice talent in Antetokounmpo, Parker is a solid prospect and they are still a few years away from being a playoff team.

      • clevelandrox - Jun 27, 2014 at 1:33 PM

        a few years away from a playoff team in the eastern conference…thats bad man, very bad man

  3. csbanter - Jun 27, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Sixer fans should run the GM out of town. It sucks for the season ticket holder.

    • brookwell2013 - Jun 27, 2014 at 12:38 PM

      Disagree csbanter. From my fan’s armchair it looks like Hinkie is in 100% building mode. Being the anaytics guru that he is, I’d give a couple more years to see if he can really build a champion using anaytics so much…..

      • clevelandrox - Jun 27, 2014 at 1:35 PM

        if thats the perspective of philly fans…yall got the right GM, lol

  4. asimonetti88 - Jun 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    It’s possible Sixers planted this story with Woj to make it appear as though Embiid was their guy all along.

    • dennisund - Jun 27, 2014 at 1:14 PM

      The only issue with this theory is that the Cavs GM said after 5 picks in the 1st round that the media was greatly distorting the trade offers that actually existed. What incentive does Cleveland have to cover the Sixers’ butts for failing to land their guy?

      I think it’s more likely that the Cavs don’t want their fans to think their decision to pick Wiggins was bad by downplaying the trade offers they actually had.

  5. campcouch - Jun 27, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    I’m convinced that Philly wanted Embiid all along. They were convinced Cleveland was going to take him. It worked for the better. Can you imagine if they did trade,Philly still took Embiid and Cleveland still got Wiggins plus Young or the #10 pick. Even the patient Sixer fans would’ve rioted.

    • sumkat - Jun 27, 2014 at 11:40 AM

      nobody was trading up to #1 for Embiid

  6. sumkat - Jun 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    Why would they want #1?

    They clearly have a plan to tank until 2020, and MAYBE they’ll draft a guy that will actually play, and isn’t already broken down physically as a teenager by then….although it’s doubtful

  7. phillycannon - Jun 27, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Not one person in the Sixers organization, said they wanted Wiggins. The media and some clueless fans made up the “winless for wiggins” slogan. The Sixers needed players. They have a bunch of them now. Mind you, why give up 4 players(3 picks and Thad), for 1 player in Wiggins. The Sixers only have at the most, 6 players under contract(and one is Richardson who wont play). I dont understand the meaning of tanking, when a team is just trying to be that……a TEAM.

    Yes we could get one guy, and a free agent or two, but you need role players. Prime example……Miami. No bench at all and had no money to get any players. The Sixers are building for the long haul. If the fans and especially the philly media cant understand that, then they might as well jump off the bridge every year we dont win.


    • rrhoe - Jun 27, 2014 at 12:10 PM

      Damn,I forgot all about Jason Richardson…..

    • sumkat - Jun 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

      You get role players after you already have the stars in place, not the other way around

      • philliesnuts - Jun 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM

        How did that work out for the Heat? They didn’t have enough money to afford good role players. Brett Brown came from a winning organization in the Spurs, what the Sixers are doing are gathering great assets then you become players with free agents that start seeing how tempting it is to play in Philadelphia again. Sam Hinkie is tired of being in the middle of the pack, you’re either really good or really bad in the NBA and the only way to get really good is to be really bad first. If you don’t see the blueprint of the Sixers then you’re obviously not an intelligent fan. I’m excited for the coming years of Sixers basketball. Joel and Noel twin towers! It’s going to be hard to score at the rim against us. We’re looking to get championships

      • sumkat - Jun 27, 2014 at 7:28 PM

        How did it work out? With 4 straight final visits, and 2 titles. In 4 years…pretty good by any measure

        The blueprint is, at best, a long shot. People always point to the spurs as how tanking works. Dozens of teams have done it, the spurs are the only success, it’s not a plan, it’s a hope. There is a difference

        Tanking happens, but it happens once. No team has ever tanked for a 4 year period (wich going into year 3 now, is being optimistic). Not to mention, they now have 3 bigs, and even if they do hit the lottery next year, all of the top prospects are….you guessed it, bigs

      • thesixersbench - Jun 27, 2014 at 3:21 PM

        Yeah, well, unfortunately, 2nd round picks exist and you need to take who’s available on the board.

        Either you’re trolling or a total numbskull.

      • sumkat - Jun 27, 2014 at 7:28 PM

        Or I’m a season ticket holder who spent a few grand last year while being told to “be patient”, for a payoff of “be patient for 3 more years”

      • thesixersbench - Jun 27, 2014 at 7:37 PM

        I’m a season ticket holder as well. I want a champion.

      • sumkat - Jun 27, 2014 at 7:39 PM

        Ticket hold for what team?

        If they build a champion this way, they will be the first

      • thesixersbench - Jun 27, 2014 at 10:08 PM

        The Sixers.

    • 76ersdoubletank - Jun 27, 2014 at 12:26 PM

      Miami is not the best example. The entire reason they won two finals and got to four in total was because they had three superstars. You can blame this year on the bench, but that’s only becuase thier stars in Bosh and Wade are in decline. Also a key role player forgot how to play basketball (Chalmers) and ther other finally looked his age (Allen.)

      You need role players, but that’s not justifying the Sixers strategy. If they take 20 role players, they still won’t make it to the finals. Eventually, they need starting players, preferably those who can play in 82 games. The Sixers right now have a million young players to look at, but none of them can shoot well, socre consistently, or stay healthy. They seem to be content with athletic, high upside guys who can play in transition (which would make them love Wiggins). Eventually though, they have to add pieces around those players that do different things.

      I think everyone understands the Sixers are rebuilding over the long haul, (especially here in Philly) but in a draft full of offensive potential (Wiggins/Parker) and shooters (Stauskas/McDermott) the Sixers selected a second rim protecting big, and a point forward. When you look at next years draft, you have an all scoring/no rebounding big (Okafor) who they won’t need as the clear cut No. 1. The next pick is a tall 6’5′ PG that would force them to trade MCW.

      My point being the Sixers don’t appear to be building a “team”, in any sense of the word. They just appear to be stockpiling random assets with the potentially high value of return. That’s good this year and next, but at some point they have to put together an actual roster that makes sense.

      • phillycannon - Jun 27, 2014 at 5:29 PM

        Anyone(McDermott) who refers their game after wally szczerbiak will never have a good nba career.

        Your points your making hold no weight.

        *sidebar* Miami was lucky in winning 2x’s. Reason being: they won in a lockout shortened year, and the ball just didnt bounce the spurs way last year I mean a win is a win, but just look at the facts.

    • philliesnuts - Jun 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM

      I think the whole Wiggin’s fiasco was made to make Cleveland take him at 1 so Embiid would fall, Wiggins is still a project like all the other picks and I’m sure he’ll leave Cleveland the first chance he gets. Possibly come to Philly to reunite with Embiid.

  8. clevelandrox - Jun 27, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    LOL, from reading these posts you philly fans are actually buying this crud, LOL, i am amazed, i was sure yall would be outraged…if yall like i love it….well good luck in nba purgatory smh…

    • phillycannon - Jun 27, 2014 at 6:40 PM

      Purgatory huh…….. but your a Cleveland fan lol. Enough said!!!

      • clevelandrox - Jun 28, 2014 at 12:15 AM

        what organization picks players that wont even see the court.. yall top picks just watch terrrible basketball from the bench…traded holiday and gave turner and hawes away, shoot when yall players do play yall give em away

        ps: bynum never bounced a ball in philly

    • afraz89 - Jun 30, 2014 at 3:53 PM

      Your a Cleveland fan and you have the nerve to disrespect Philly. Who did you draft last year? how did that turn out for you guys? Or LeBron… and watch Kyrie walk to LA next year. Your owner and entire city blo*s.

      What the Sixers are doing has never been done in the NBA before. They are building to be good for the next 10-15 years. They have a GM with an actual plan (Unlike Cleveland who just gets lucky with picks), and owners who are letting him execute it.

      I am obviously not excited for next season, but anyone who understands basketball knows the Embid is the best player int he draft and can turn this franchise around. Even if we got Wiggins we would be 3-4 years away from winning now anyways.

  9. sportsfan18 - Jun 27, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    he loves me, he loves me not, he loves me…

    folks today are too damn scared to make a choice, take a stand and stand up for it, defend it…

    it’s cover their behind all the time and politically correct crap 24/7

    • sportsfan18 - Jun 27, 2014 at 6:08 PM

      a team should say we followed our process, we met, discussed and agreed that selecting player such and such was what we were going to do…

      not select a guy and then play patty cakes and worry and try to leave themselves an out a yr or two down the road with their fans if it doesn’t work out…

      sell your fans that you have a process, that your team wants certain things and it’s communicated clearly up and down the organization, including to scouts.

      Due your work, your due diligence and then make your selection and STAND up for it…

      don’t be wishy washy.

      teams that do this show they really aren’t sure of what they did…

      can’t run a business or organization when you’re scared of making and standing behind decisions…

      • sportsfan18 - Jun 27, 2014 at 6:11 PM

        take the Sixers now… they have a plan and they’re sticking to it…

        will it work? I don’t know but they are on board and in agreement and they are being consistent and not letting the wind blow them over when it changes direction…

        they are going about their rebuild in a certain way and they haven’t deviated from it.

        doing something halfway and then taking the temperature of others and changing up what you’re doing because of that shows that a company is weak at the top…

  10. eepobee - Jun 28, 2014 at 7:28 AM

    in the interview right after wiggins was picked, the GM from the Cavs laughed at the media reports about all of the supposed trades that were in the works. he said “none of them were accurate”.

    here’s what happened: the sixers wanted embiid all along. the talked to the cavs about moving up to 1 TO GET EMBIID, but the talks never got serious (sixers GM said this). then embiid got hurt, and the need to trade dissipated. the end.

  11. otismeanwhile - Jun 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    number what?..number two..ANY team in the sixers position would do their due diligence and inquire on what it would take to move up…thats a no brainer. isnt it?

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