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Updated report: Philadelphia offered picks 3, 10, 32 to get No. 1 pick from Cleveland, may not be enough

Jun 26, 2014, 5:52 PM EDT

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UPDATE 5:52 pm: Just how desperate were the Philadelphia 76ers to get the No. 1 pick from the Cleveland Cavaliers and select Andrew Wiggins? Desperate enough to meet the Cavaliers wild demands.

And that still likely is not enough.

We had told you the Sixers upped their offer. How high did that get? Dei Lynam at CSNPhilly.com said very high.

What have they offered? According to the league source, the Sixers have offered the third, 10th and 32nd picks to the Cavaliers for the No. 1 pick in the NBA draft.

That had been the Cavaliers reported asking price, and it still is not enough according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.

I’d say that’s the end of the story, but this is the Cavaliers so surprises could still await us all.

2:22 pm: Andrew Wiggins would be a hand-in-glove fit with Michael Carter-Williams and the up-tempo offense of the Philadelphia 76ers. Get the most athletic guy in the draft out in the open court and turn him loose.

The Sixers want the top pick, they offered to trade their No. 3 pick and a quality veteran forward in Thaddeus Young. It wasn’t enough, the Cavaliers shrugged.

This is why you do that if you’re Cleveland — on the day of the draft the Sixers have “increased their offer,” reports Dei Lynam of CSNPhilly.com.

We don’t know what “increased” means exactly. It’s highly unlikely the Sixers would add their No. 10 pick to that mix, but they have five second round picks that could be thrown in the package. There also may be other assets on the roster or future picks that could be thrown in.

For the Cavaliers, it comes down to this: How highly do you rate Wiggins? If you think he is clear and away the best guy in this draft, take him and don’t look back. You have one cornerstone piece in Kyrie Irving, but to really win (and to keep him long term) you have to get another, roll the dice if you think Wiggins can develop into that guy under new coach David Blatt.

If you don’t rate him that highly, make the trade and take Joel Embiid or Dante Exum or whoever at No. 3 and don’t look back.

Predicting what the Cavaliers will do on draft night is next to impossible, as history has shown us.

But the Sixers are cranking up the pressure, they want Wiggins and the No. 1 pick.

  1. thatsjustchipper - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    “Aw man, ya know I had to do it for ya. Ya know I had to do it for ya.”

    -Hinkie to Wiggins as he surrenders his entire haul of picks

    • jobber33 - Jun 26, 2014 at 3:03 PM

      I could see a situation like the Vikings giving up everything except their own kids to get Hershel Walker with Philly and getting the #1 pick.

    • nflcrimerankingscom - Jun 26, 2014 at 3:22 PM

      Cavs could care less about an additional 2nd round pick. But #1 for #3 and #10? Not bad

      • osubrndn - Jun 26, 2014 at 8:06 PM

        COULDN’T, it’s COULDN’T

      • nflcrimerankingscom - Jun 27, 2014 at 12:10 PM

        doh you’re right :(

  2. zinger92 - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    3rd overall, thad, 2 second rounders. DO IT DO IT DO IT PHILLY!

    • jeffkx - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:40 PM

      If David Griffin did that he should be fired by 8pm tonight..

    • loubearkane - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:48 PM

      3rd & 10th or no deal

      • tfoz5150 - Jun 26, 2014 at 4:25 PM

        We’ll see…we’ll see if anyone has a better offer.

  3. Hard On For Harden - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    Why is it highly unlikely they would trade #10? If they have the drop off in talent from 2 to 3 rates that steeply and think either Wiggins or Parker can be a legit franchise player, why would they not pull the trigger? Adding Noel, the #3 pick, and a probable role player at #10 puts them further along in the process (don’t think it’s possible to go backwards at this point) but obviously doesn’t make them a title contender. Impact players are a dime a dozen. Swing for the fences if you’re sure about a guy.

    • zinger92 - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:40 PM

      coming from a sixers fan, we have so many holes that we can’t afford to give up our 10th pick just to get wiggins. I honestly can’t even name 2 of our starters, they should probably be in the D league along with our entire bench.

      • thatsjustchipper - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM

        Cavs can’t afford to take less than that, and I’m a Sixers fan. Do you value Wiggins more than a combo of say Embiid + Stauskas or Exum + McBuckets? That’s what it’ll come down to. I still think Hinkie will take some salary dumps tonight from possibly the Bulls to sweeten the pot.

      • tfoz5150 - Jun 26, 2014 at 4:31 PM

        You don’t know how any of these guys will pan out. Who’s to say Embiid won’t be the Tim Duncan of the next generation and that Wiggins isn’t going to be the next Tim Thomas. There’s definitely something to be said for accumulating a lot of valuable pieces. Look at the Spurs vs. the Heat. Total Domination!

      • 5xchamp24 - Jun 26, 2014 at 5:06 PM

        You cant name the starters? How much of a fan are you?

      • zukny1 - Jun 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM

        @5xchamp24 – I’m sure the guy was most likely being sarcastic when he said he couldn’t name 2 starters, but the fact is the sixers traded away multiple starters last season and it’s been known that they would try to trade Thad tonight for months now. At this stage the team is: MCW and the D League. Noel hasn’t even proven himself yet.

      • rhettbogan - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:37 PM

        If you can’t name two starters for The Sixers than you’re not a fan with knowledge of your team. Right off the bat I can name two. MCW & Thad Young….Where have you been man?

  4. floreskins - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    I think the 10 is out of the question. It also seems that teams aren’t beating down the door for the #1 pick either. The Magic are out. The Boston trade was nonsense from the start. I think #3, Thad, 2 2s, and taking back Jarrett Jack’s Horrific Contract should do it.

    • tcclark - Jun 26, 2014 at 3:18 PM

      I get what you are saying, but I think you’re forgetting that they don’t have to trade the pick. If they want 10 they’ll get it or they’ll just pick 1st.

  5. loubearkane - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    3rd & 10th or no deal
    Philly you want Wiggins then pay up if not have a spot available for Embiid on your IR next to NOEL

  6. mvp43 - Jun 26, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    This is the NBA, not NFL. I’d easily trade 3 & 10 for Wiggins.

  7. blarry21 - Jun 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Please do this. I want Parker to go to the Bucks.

    • mvp43 - Jun 26, 2014 at 4:31 PM

      I agree I’m a Bucks fan……. I should’ve prefaced, If I were in Philly’s shoes.

  8. geejon - Jun 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM

    I said it before … Hinkie’s sneaky. The fact everyone and their grandmother has had Wiggins pegged to Philly makes me think he wants Parker. It’s just not like someone as close to the vest as him to have his desires out there so easily for so long. The guy wouldn’t tell you what he ate for lunch if you asked him. It really has my antenna up.

  9. zinger92 - Jun 26, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    just heard on phillys sports talk show, sixers offered the 3rd, 10th, and 32nd…wow.

    • geejon - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:12 PM

      That’s absolutely insane and I would be extremely unhappy if Philly did that. I’m sorry but Wiggins is not the 2nd coming. The guy’s a great athlete but then so is Gerald Green and Andre Iguodala. Nice players but not game changers. Wiggins has serious holes in his offensive game. Shaky jumper, average dribbler, below average ball distributor and b-ball IQ in general. I’d take him if he were available but not at that ridiculous price. I’d rather them sit at 3 and draft Embiid or Exum and the best shooter available at #10 rather than get abused in a trade like the one reported.

  10. saint1997 - Jun 26, 2014 at 5:36 PM

    I’m of the opinion they should just grab Exum at 3, trade MCW to the Lakers for 7th pick, then see if the Cavs will take 7 and 10 for 1

  11. antistratfordian - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    Everyone wants that #1 pick. Everyone wants Wiggins? CLE better keep it and take him.

  12. Kevin S. - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    So Cleveland moved the goalposts after somebody agreed to their demands? Glad to see the Chris Grant era is still alive and kicking!

  13. mogogo1 - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    That sounds like a sweet deal for Cleveland and a potential disaster for Philly who is a lot more than one player away. But I can still see why Cleveland would turn it down. Cleveland has no shortage of young players who were high picks so two more top 10 picks may not excite them that much. With the #1 they get whoever they want without any concerns over settling or making adjustments based on who other teams choose.

  14. seasickcecil - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Word has just come down that Philly has thrown in the towel.

  15. ashoreinhawaii - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    Sounds like a joke:
    “An idiot and a moron walk into the NBA draft….”
    Doesn’t matter if they do it or not. Getting taken by either is the kiss of death for a player. At least in the last 10 years.

  16. Mr. Wright 212 - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Cavs are stupid for turning down Orlando and Philly’s deals. They would still need far more than Wiggins.

  17. azarkhan - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    If the 76ers GM can’t build a team with the 3rd, 10th and 32nd picks in a draft called by experts one of the deepest ever, then he needs to get another f**king job.

  18. seasickcecil - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    The Cavaliers had the ninth worst record in the league and a 1.7% chance of getting the number one pick. But they lucked out and got it. Now they are going to pick between the two top guys in the draft. They don’t need Phillys bag of magic beans.

  19. glenuendo - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    Good grief. I thought Utah giving up #5, #23 AND Derrick Favors was extreme.

  20. glenuendo - Jun 26, 2014 at 6:47 PM

    Good grief. And I thought Utah giving up #5, 23 AND Derrick Favors was extreme.

  21. ProBasketballPundit - Jun 26, 2014 at 7:10 PM

    That’s insane if it’s true. Cleveland needs to fill out a roster more than they need another ball dominant wing player. You can’t turn down all those picks… especially when one of them would probably be Embiid who could become a franchise guy in a position of desperate need for the team.

  22. seasickcecil - Jun 26, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    It’s insane alright. To take the offer. You want a team that is already one of the youngest to have picks 3,10,32 and 33.you don’t bring in 4 draft choices to a team that is already one of the youngest in the league.

  23. jeffkx - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Sorry..poorly worded comment by me..if the 76ers are offering 3rd and Thad and the Cavs say no..Philly adding extra 2nds won’t change the Cavs mind..

  24. zinger92 - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    I’d give up the 10 if cavs throw in waiters.

  25. zinger92 - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    quality picks at #32 and #39 in this draft though.

  26. floreskins - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    Taking back salary, which would enable CLE to make other moves is the next sweetner. I think Hinkie is smart enough to know two Top 10 picks in this draft is of greater value than any one player.

  27. jeffkx - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    I heard Waiters may be traded so that’s possible for #10..but the last thing the Cavs need is more rookies, let alone picks at #32 and #39, especially when the Cavs already have #33..but you could be right..

  28. Hard On For Harden - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Wholeheartedly disagree. High quality draft or not, 2nd round picks are constantly shipped or sold straight up for cash routinely.

  29. tfoz5150 - Jun 26, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    This is a different draft, though. The deepest in a long time.

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