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NBA general manager: ‘You can’t use a top-five pick’ on injured Joel Embiid

Jun 19, 2014, 5:56 PM EDT

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Joel Embiid’s draft stock is dropping rapidly due to his injured foot.

Just how far will he fall?

An anonymous NBA general manager, via Sean Deveney of Sporting News:

“I think there is a point at which you use a pick on him, where you’re hoping maybe these are just fluke things that are not going to be recurring,” one general manager told Sporting News. “But that point is not in the Top 5 or so. You can’t use a Top 5 pick. I think there are too many other good options there to think about using the pick on one who has these injury problems.”

Just speculating… Deveney is based in Boston, and the Celtics have the No. 6 pick. Might the anonymous GM be Danny Ainge trying to get Embiid to fall so he can draft him?

In reality, it doesn’t matter what one general manager – or even a consensus of general managers would do. It matters only what David Griffin (Cavaliers), John Hammond (Bucks), Sam Hinkie (76ers), Rob Hennigan (Magic) and Dennis Lindsey (Jazz) would do.

It’s easy to now justify taking Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker ahead of Embiid. They’d be quality No. 1 picks in an average draft.

But Dante Exum, Noah Vonleh, Marcus Smart, Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle over Embiid? That’s a much harder trigger to pull.

Yet, drafting an injured Embiid won’t be easy, either.

I’d guess Embiid will go between No. 3 and No. 5, but so much remains up in the air – no matter what the agenda is of an anonymous general manager.

Potential No. 1 pick Joel Embiid suffers stress fracture

  1. saint1997 - Jun 19, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Around this time in the draft process I just hope players go where they would fit. Wiggins to 76ers and Exum to Magic are the obvious ones, and Embiid would work great in Boston (even though I still think it’s unlikely he’ll slip). My questions is for the Kings at 8 – Smart or Payton?

    • spursareold - Jun 19, 2014 at 6:11 PM

      Neither will be left at #8.

      • spursareold - Jun 19, 2014 at 6:14 PM

        My bad. I read your post ‘Smart or Exum’. Payton will be there, but he’s a huge reach anywhere in the lottery. Everyone is dropping the mid-major comparisons to Lillard, but he had a complete offensive game out of the box. Payton cannot shoot a jumper, or a FT for that matter. He’s a project.

    • nflcrimerankingscom - Jun 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM

      Wiggins ain’t gonna make it to the 3rd pick…

    • sportsfan18 - Jun 19, 2014 at 8:36 PM

      Magic should take Smart as PG and keep Victor at off guard, not a PG.

      Exum will end up as a SG, NOT a PG.

      • saint1997 - Jun 20, 2014 at 5:28 AM

        how can you say that? have you ever even seen him play? you’re a fool.

  2. jattsoorma - Jun 19, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Source: NBA General Manager with the 6th pick.

    • xmatt0926x - Jun 19, 2014 at 9:18 PM

      So true. I giggled at that comment.

  3. eugenesaxe1 - Jun 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Big man. Back issues. Foot issues.
    No bueno.

    • 1historian - Jun 20, 2014 at 7:29 AM

      that’s the rub

  4. 88heatnation - Jun 19, 2014 at 6:52 PM

    The cavs will pick him up no worries

  5. pacodawg - Jun 19, 2014 at 7:14 PM

    Super Bowl. Go browns!

  6. TheMorningStar - Jun 19, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    And that is why the name of this site should be:

    Pro Basketball Speculation

  7. fatcamper - Jun 19, 2014 at 7:53 PM

    I feel like if Embiid makes it to #4 Orlando tries to trade back a few picks to let somebody go get him, and they can take the consolation pick of Smart to pair up with Oladipo in the back court. They’re in rebuild mode for a while so there is no reason they’d take a big man with a short shelf life in the league.

    • loubearkane - Jun 19, 2014 at 8:09 PM

      and even if Smart is gone can try to trade back again and grab Payton.

  8. philswfc08 - Jun 19, 2014 at 8:05 PM

    This really blows for my 76ers

    • captainwisdom88 - Jun 20, 2014 at 4:27 AM


    • sixerstrong - Jun 20, 2014 at 8:08 AM


    • sixerstrong - Jun 20, 2014 at 8:10 AM

      Could you see them getting him at 3, or maybe trading up from 10 to get him at 7 or so, and stashing him for a year a la Noel? The Sixers have plenty of time on their hands, and the last thing they want to do is squeak into the 8th seed this year and lose their 1st rounder next year. I think there is a good possibility of something like that happening.

      • spursareold - Jun 20, 2014 at 10:04 AM

        It’s not the same situation as Noel, at all. I think teams would be MORE comfortable if he had blown out his knee like Noel did. That pretty much has a 100% recovery rate. The history of players with chronic stress fractures is not pretty.

      • sixerstrong - Jun 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

        I wasn’t trying to compare the injuries at all, but more the situation. They are one of the few teams who have little interest in winning right now, so giving him an entire season off to heal properly would be a definite possibility.

  9. asimonetti88 - Jun 19, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    He’ll fall to the Lakers at 7 and we’ll trade him later when he breaks down for a superstar that leaves us after a year.

  10. zukny1 - Jun 19, 2014 at 9:41 PM

    Such depressing news to be a sixers fan today! The last few weeks the stars have been aligning w/ all mock drafts going: Embiid, then Parker, then Wiggins.

    It’s now looking like Sixers will take Exum and try to use him at SG.

    So my question and dream is…. Would Cleveland trade: 1st pick to sixers for 3rd pick, one 2nd round pick & Thad Young? …yesterday I was all for keeping number 3 over all no matter what and taking whomever falls there, but now i’m scared off of Embiid. So what will it take to move up?

  11. soundsofsuccess7 - Jun 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM

    1. Big men don’t win games. They’re a nice piece, but Dwight Howard never took over a game or hit a game winning shot.

    2. 7 footers with foot problems don’t usually end up playing too many games.

    Wouldn’t touch Embiid in the top 10.

  12. jollyjoker2 - Jun 19, 2014 at 10:15 PM

    if he is that good,,, you take him regardless and hope it works out. Most of the NBA with the exception of 5-10 players are game changers.

    • spursareold - Jun 20, 2014 at 10:07 AM

      No. His comparison isn’t someone like Noel, it’s Bill Walton, who was Tim Duncan in college, and Greg Oden in the NBA, his career almost completely wiped out by stress fractures.

      As someone said upthread, I wouldn’t touch him in the top 10.

  13. pukpokito - Jun 19, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    If it is the navicular bone as some have reported, then you really have to think twice or thrice..whatever. That is the injury that Made Yao retire. The Navicular bone controls your lateral movement.This is a serious enough injury for people who are heavily invested in the future of their franchises to think about.

  14. mungman69 - Jun 20, 2014 at 1:40 AM

    What will the Sixers do now? This is going to be fun. Haw about trading MCW to the Lakers for that #7 pick. Pick Exum at #3, pick Gordon or another forward at #7 and pick a shooter at #10.

  15. kclanton80 - Jun 20, 2014 at 7:27 AM

    i hope my sixers pick embid. He is the only potential francise player in this draft.

  16. sixerstrong - Jun 20, 2014 at 8:07 AM

    “Oh yeah? Watch me.”

    -Sam Hinkie

  17. themagicfanguy - Jun 20, 2014 at 8:21 AM

    You don’t have a clue what position Exum will play. You haven’t seen any film on him and you’re just regurgitating what you’ve read on blogs. Just because he’s 6’6″ doesn’t mean he’s a SG, he’s perfectly capable of playing at PG…and more of a mismatch at the PG spot as well.

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