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Thursday And-1 Links: DeSean Jackson trolls LeBron James… poorly

Jun 12, 2014, 6:27 PM EDT

Here is our regular look around the NBA — links to stories worth reading and notes to check out (stuff that did not get its own post here at PBT) — done in bullet point form. Because bloggers love bullet points more than Brazilians love soccer… okay, not that much….

• New Redskins receiver DeSean Jackson (who to me will always be a Long Beach Poly Jackrabbit, where I talked to him and saw him play) trolled LeBron James for some odd reason, and did it with a 2010 insult.

• The idea that Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan didn’t have talent around them when they won titles is just flat-out idiotic. Kobe needed Shaquille O’Neal to win his first, Pau Gasol and other veterans to win his second, and Phil Jackson to coach all those teams. Does that diminish what Kobe did? Not in the least. He helped take good rosters and made them great. Same with Jordan — the first year he left for baseball Scottie Pippin and the Bulls won 55 games and made the second round of the playoffs. They were not a bad team, Jordan elevated that team to legendary levels, he is arguably the greatest of all time, but nobody wins in the NBA alone. Nobody. That’s why this line of LeBron criticism is a waste. Also, why does it bother people so that LeBron and friends decided to take control of their own fates rather than work at the whim of billionaire owners? Is that how you run your life, never questioning your boss or looking for something better?

DeMarcus Cousins wants to be part of Team USA this summer for the World Cup in Spain. It leads to an interesting question: How many true centers will Coach K bring? My guess is 1, we will play small a lot (Kevin Love at the five, small).

• This is very sad: The brother of former NBA player Dominic McGuire was shot and killed in his San Diego area apartment. While his child was asleep in the next room.

• More tragic news: The personal chef of the Heat’s Norris Cole was shot and killed at a Miami club.

Great bit of writing from Brian Windhorst at ESPN on how LeBron James turned to Jerry West and Isiah Thomas — two guys who knew Finals pain — to help him deal with and improve off the 2011 Finals loss to the Mavericks.

• Speaking of great writing, Tom Haberstroh on Chris Bosh is a must read. Bosh is one of the most interesting, complex people in the league, a guy who refuses to be put in the two-dimensional box fans often reserve for players.

Danilo Gallinari update:

• Among the interesting tidbits in this Grantland story about Lance Stephenson: The Hawks tested the trade waters for Al Horford last deadline.

Tony Snell has gotten rid of the braids.

• Back in 2001 comedian Martin Lawrence tried to help recruit Chris Webber to the Pistons. The effort failed, but the front office was so grateful that in 2004 they gave him a championship ring.

• LeBron James went to the movies. That’s news, I guess.

Shane Larkin is spending the off-season working on his ability to drive the lane, draw a defense and create for others.

• A former advisor to the NBA players union just got 18 months in jail for fraud.

• Golden State center Festus Ezeli, who missed a chunk of the season following knee surgery, has gotten the okay from doctors to play in the Las Vegas Summer League.

• DeAndre Liggins is working out at the Brooklyn Nets’ facility trying to get on their team for the Orlando Summer League.

• Wizards prospect Tomas Satoransky is not playing for the team in the Las Vegas Summer League.

• Finally, Dikembe Mutombo’s appearance on Jimmy Kimmel was… very Dikembe.

  1. R. Edmond - Jun 12, 2014 at 6:40 PM

    Kobe didn’t conspire to get Shaq (they even fought eachother) or Pau (who wasn’t even an all-star type player until he got here).

    LeBron, D-Wade and Bosh are 3/10ths of a Team USA Olympic team.

    What else needs to be said? LeBron doomed his own popularity by teaming up with wood-be rivals. It doesn’t matter how many he wins. No one will forget.

    He’s a very nice guy and doesn’t deserve the hate that he gets, but people won’t forget.

    • blueintown - Jun 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM

      wood-be

    • norcalkingsfan - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM

      Seriously. Never seen a superstar jump ship in his prime. KG, Payton, Malone, Ray Allen… these guys did it towards the end of their careers. Lebron quit and ran to D-Wade in his prime.

      I won’t forget. Neither will NBA fans.

      • thehouseofho - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:12 PM

        Shaq left the Magic in his prime.

      • jasper36 - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:13 PM

        I’m sure Lebron will consider your memory.

      • kinggw - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:45 PM

        Then you obviously haven’t been paying attention. As another poster mentioned, Shaq left Orlando in his prime. Barkley left Philly in his prime (he forced the trade), Kareem Abdul Jabbar also forced his way out of Milwaukee. Grant Hill also left the Pistons in his prime.

        KG is also a poor example since he did leave Minny in his prime.

        Long story short, your premise is false. Plenty of superstars have left in their prime.

      • bkbell3 - Jun 13, 2014 at 12:28 AM

        Kinggw, thank you, a voice of reason. Many more players behind the scenes and before 24/7 news and blogging left teams or forced trades in the past. And many more would of if the teams they wanted to go to had room under the cap. The CBA has always made it tough to go where you wanted with out a trade that guts the team you you want to go to. Miami cleared the cap space at the right time and the players were free agents at the right time and wanted to control their destiny and play together and not wait years for their front offices to make mistakes and not build a good team around them.{See, Cleveland,Toronto,Minn.knicks etc}

    • antistratfordian - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:08 PM

      Kobe was just fortunate to end up on a team with Shaq as a rookie. MJ played with an original Dream Team member – and he always played with all-time great three point shooters.

      In 1996 MJ had more help from teammates than LBJ will probably ever have: http://wp.me/p3L1dS-7s

      • thehouseofho - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:48 PM

        Not only was Pippen and original Dream Team member, but he was also one of ten active players to be named the greatest 50 players in NBA history. So the ’96 Bulls had two of the best players in NBA history at the time.

      • kb2408 - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:57 PM

        With or without Shaq, Kobe eventually would’ve won a title. His will to win was too great. Same with MJ. Even without the Kerr’s and Paxson’s he still would’ve won. Eventually.

      • antistratfordian - Jun 12, 2014 at 8:01 PM

        Who knows.

        But neither MJ or Kobe were winning anything unless they listened to PJ and became more team oriented.

      • cantonbound13 - Jun 12, 2014 at 8:22 PM

        What did Pippen do without MJ? He even teamed up with Olajuwon, Barkley & a stacked Portland team. He did nothing!!!! Zero rings without MJ!

      • antistratfordian - Jun 12, 2014 at 8:30 PM

        He was just a major MVP candidate and led the Bulls to 55 wins with a guy named Pete Myers at SG instead of #23 (a win total MJ never could get close to delivering without Pippen). And in 1993-94 Chicago was still in play for the #1 seed in the East with one week left in the season. Imagine that.

      • thehouseofho - Jun 12, 2014 at 8:32 PM

        @cantonbound13 I think you meant Pippen was traded to Houston where he played with Olajuwon and Barkley during the lockout season. He was then traded to Portland.

        By the way, the “how many rings did Pippen win without MJ?” isn’t a good argument. The answer is simple: The same amount of rings MJ won without Pippen.

      • sportsfan18 - Jun 12, 2014 at 10:36 PM

        Another way for Heat fans to look at it is the following:

        LBJ 2nd ALL TIME highest PER in league history

        D Wade 8th ALL TIME highest PER in league history

        Lakers

        Shaq 3rd all time highest PER in league history

        Kobe 20th all time highest PER in league history

        Bulls

        MJ Highest all time PER in league history

        Pippen 114th highest all time PER in league history

        A LOT of players have higher PER’s than Scottie Pippen like Stephon Marbury, Andrei Kirilenko, Chauncey Billups, Brad Daughtery, David West, Paul Millsap, Shawn Kemp, Mark Aguirre, Spender Haywood and many many others…

        LBJ is a top ten ALL TIME in PER and he’s played along side another player who is in the all time top ten in PER.

        Only the Heat. And the Heat with LBJ at 2 and D Wade at 8 all time for PER also have Chris Bosh who is at #54 for highest all time PER right now.

        Lakers had Shaq in top ten but then Kobe down at 20.

        Bulls, only MJ. Pip was way down, 114th.

        Oh, those two titles with Pau Gasol that Kobe “won”? Pau’s career PER puts him in 36th place ALL TIME or not all that far behind Kobe and his 20th all time ranking.

        MJ did NOT have the help that LJB does with D Wade and his 8th all time highest PER and Chris Bosh and his 54th highest all time PER in league history.

        Shaq and Kobe were more than MJ had.

        Shaq and Pau were more than MJ had.

        Let’s look at the Bulls 1992 starting lineup and their career PER’s.

        MJ best all time
        Pippen 114th best all time
        Rodman BELOW league average PER
        Horace Grant career PER of 16.0 or just a bit better than the 15.0 league average
        John Paxson career PER of 12.0 not that good

        Going to 1997
        Ron Harper career PER of 15.7
        Toni Kukoc career PER of 17.3 not bad, better than league average at least
        Luc Longley career PER of 11.8 not very good
        Steve Kerr career PER of 13.1 well below league average too.

        It was MJ folks… and his very good side kick Scottie Pippen.

        Dennis Rodman had a career PER below the league average of 15 as his was only 14.6

        Rodman had 3 seasons of PER’s in the 13 range when the Bulls won titles with him and a season when he was only in the 12 something range.

      • antistratfordian - Jun 12, 2014 at 11:22 PM

        That doesn’t tell us anything. Pippen and Rodman were both all-time great defenders the likes of which LeBron has never played with. PER doesn’t even factor in their defense, if it did they would have higher PERs.

    • innovativethinking87 - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:09 PM

      Pau gasol was rookie of the year, all-nba before he joined lakers. Sorry pal

      • kb2408 - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:32 PM

        Rookie of the year? Yes. All NBA? I don’t think that statement is true, sir.

      • kb2408 - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:43 PM

        I stand corrected, Pau was 3rd team All NBA in 2009 & 2010 and 2nd team with the LAKERS.

    • kinggw - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:23 PM

      Gasol wasn’t an all star before joining the Lakers? I thought the Heat fans were supposed to be the uninformed fan base.

    • thehouseofho - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:50 PM

      I was wrong, he didn’t become an All-NBA (2nd and 3rd team) until he joined the Lakers, but the rest still holds true.

  2. antistratfordian - Jun 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Poor trolling of LeBron is ubiquitous.

  3. norcalkingsfan - Jun 12, 2014 at 6:52 PM

    Demarcus Cousins would FEAST on international big, just like domestic ones. No one in the world can guard that guy.

    • kavika6 - Jun 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM

      He would be too bad for USA’s image.

  4. chaseutley - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    This offseason, DeSean Jackson hinted that he wanted a raise, had $20K and who knows what else stolen from him, he got cut, he’s in the middle of a lawsuit/counter-suit with his former agent, and signed with a new team.

    Instead of digging into his new playbook, he’s trolling the internet.

    Thanks for the memories!

    • kidris90 - Jun 18, 2014 at 4:26 PM

      You can take Desean out of the hood, but you can’t take the hood out of Desean.

      • Kurt Helin - Oct 2, 2014 at 3:10 AM

        Actually, I covered him in high school, he lived in a fairly well off area with his mom.

  5. nicofthenorthstar - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Well, DJax is officially back in my good graces. I know he’ll be thrilled to hear the news.

  6. djlexluger - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    The Heat have been together for 4 years now get over it!

  7. goodtogo28 - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    “why does it bother people so that LeBron and decided to take control of their own fates rather than work at the whim of billionaire owners? …..”

    actually pat riley and the billionaire owner were in on it as well. frankly, this wasn’t as much about deciding own fate rather than the way he went about doing that. the “decision” was not a good look for lebron and it robbed a lot of people the wrong way. just saying.

    • antistratfordian - Jun 12, 2014 at 7:45 PM

      No, that’s just an excuse to keep the hate train rolling. At first the problem was the actual decision, but after that argument proved to be unsupportable, the issue morphed into, “it was the way that he did it.”

      But this feigned outrage says more about the insecurities of the people who have a problem with it, than it does about James.

  8. jzone954 - Jun 12, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    It’s plain and simple. These guys are all friends , look at Melo or example. If he wants to have the respect of the fanbase….AND NOT WIN?, then by all means stay in NY. What did NY do with Melo all these years?? Team him with Raymond Felton? Shump? And then the major move Barngani??? Pffffffffffffffffff, he wants to win, why not do it with your closet friends , and as far as the lakers , we all should have a moment of silence , because that ship has sailed FOR A VERY LONG TIME. Let these players do what they want to. It wasn’t criticized when Shaq teamed up with Kobe and Phil TO WIN, so why should anybody care to what we all think ? “Lebron should’ve stayed in Cleveland” get outta here with that.

    • mackcarrington - Jun 12, 2014 at 10:00 PM

      Shaq teamed up with Kobe and Phil? Kobe was a rookie and nobody knew what he was going to become. And Del Harris was coach for 3 seasons before they got Phil.
      You don’t have a clue, my man.

  9. afraz89 - Jun 13, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Shaq > MJ > Lebron

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