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Report: OKC source says players ‘may roll their eyes’ at speeches from Knicks head coach Derek Fisher

Jun 11, 2014, 6:11 PM EDT

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Derek Fisher the player became a well-respected veteran presence in NBA locker rooms not only due to his history of producing consistently under the most pressure-packed of circumstances, but also because of the way he could command the room when giving speeches to his fellow players.

That communication style, however, may not be seen under the same positive light coming from Fisher the head coach.

In his new role patrolling the sidelines for the New York Knicks, Fisher has the cache that comes with winning championships and playing 18 NBA seasons. But at least one source believes that Fisher will have to reduce his customary chatter in order to hold his players’ attention.

From Marc Berman of the New York Post:

Fisher’s speech-making skills are good for dreary lockout meetings and introductory press conferences. But this is what one Thunder insider told me during the conference finals:

“The thing that worries me about Derek as a coach is it’s one thing to give speeches as a player because it’s unique,” the source said. “But the players don’t want to hear long speeches from the coach every day during the season. Players may roll their eyes. Hopefully, Phil will guide him there.’’

One person close to Fisher says admiringly, “He has the ability to talk a lot but not really reveal anything.’’

Fisher was hired primarily because of his prior relationship with Phil Jackson, and Jackson will most certainly mentor him throughout the learning process.

If the players indeed grow weary of Fisher’s extended dialogues, it’s something that should be evident the moment the trend emerges, and it’s something that can be easily fixed. But it seems more than a bit silly to start looking for reasons Fisher might fail before he’s worked a single day of the five years he’s now under contract as head coach of the Knicks.

  1. biggredbird76 - Jun 11, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    Let the hate begin

    • therealhtj - Jun 11, 2014 at 7:41 PM

      Fisher may fail, but it’ll be because of that roster, not because of a speech.

    • imakcds - Jun 14, 2014 at 10:08 AM

      and Hate is usually generated toward success and accomplishment.

    • nomoreliesfortoday - Jun 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM

      I’m gonna sit this year out as a Knick Fan…I’ll see you in 2015.

  2. tombstone7 - Jun 11, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    Derek Fisher has 5 RINGS to go with the speeches. KD & Westbrook, are you listenin or rolling your eyes?

    • yesser12 - Jun 11, 2014 at 6:34 PM

      Pretty sure they listened since the source said as a player it is unique. But when a coach does it that can be tiring.

      • imakcds - Jun 14, 2014 at 10:04 AM

        maybe the Heat are finally tired of Spoelstra’s endless cliches….

    • kinggw - Jun 11, 2014 at 7:59 PM

      So what, having rings doesn’t mean you know what in the hell you’re doing.

      • bball242322 - Jun 12, 2014 at 10:36 AM

        uh…yeah it does..? it means you have great experience with the game, you’ve been apart of many different teams, seen several different coaching styles, etc..stupid comment kingw – does any rookie coach know what the hell they’re doing..? look at JKidd – he sucked at first, didn’t turn out so bad as he had a little time to develop as a coach

      • mogogo1 - Jun 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM

        Great experience in the game doesn’t automatically mean you’re good at relating that experience. One of the reasons that not every player can be a good coach. I’ve known many people who lived fascinating lives but were total bores. Other people made them sound amazing but in their own words they put you right to sleep, or sounded pompous, etc.

    • bigmeechy74 - Jun 11, 2014 at 11:17 PM

      Yeah the ol’ “how many rings ya got? Huh?” argument. Love it. For instance, BJ Armstrong is better than Charles Barkley. More rings!

    • enigma2742 - Jun 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM

      5 rings as a role player riding kobe, shaq, and gasol coatails

  3. wesermandc - Jun 11, 2014 at 6:34 PM

    Yeah, he probably wont be giving the same speeches as a coach. Positions are different.

  4. antistratfordian - Jun 11, 2014 at 6:44 PM

    I’m pretty sure Fisher knows the difference between a speech as a player and a speech as a coach.

  5. claymatthewshairplugs - Jun 11, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Fisher can teach the team how to flop. He’s the 2nd best flopper of all time

    • money2long - Jun 11, 2014 at 7:14 PM

      Who’s number one

      • sportsfan18 - Jun 11, 2014 at 7:31 PM

        Folks, USE YOUR OWN EYES with respect to flopping..

        Just Google “Lebron James mix – King of Flops”

        And you’ll be treated to several min’s of a maestro giving a virtuoso performance with respect to flopping.

        Just like most of you all reading this watched the video on this site of D Wade flopping when Manu waved at him to help cool him down… just watch the Youtube video of LeFlop…

        After your own eyes see the instances of him flopping, you all will know who #1 is.

        Now, I can’t say where Chris Paul ranks on the list, but he has the SINGLE BEST (or worst I guess) flop of all time.

        Two seasons ago… Youtube vid is only 18 seconds long – Just Google “chris paul flops against kings”

        None of us will ever see a better instance of flopping than when Chris Paul gives the best performance ever…

      • 00maltliquor - Jun 12, 2014 at 3:25 AM

        The King…Vlade Divac. Better show some respect.

      • adoombray - Jun 12, 2014 at 8:43 AM

        Blake Griffin.

      • borderline1988 - Jun 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM

        Manu Ginoibili, James Harden, Chris Paul. Those 3 floppers are by far and away the worst in the NBA, by sheer volume. Not a game goes by where they dont commit multiple flops.

        Lebron doesnt even compare. He’ll flop once every few games, and it’ll look worse than it is just because he’s a superstar and because he’s so physically strong. On the other hand, James Harden flops EVERY time he drives to the rim. How can you even compare??

      • borderline1988 - Jun 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM

        Actually, maybe throw Dwayne Wade in there.

        You simply cannot compare Lebron James to those guys, especially because most fouls on him are not even called. He drives to the rim, and multiple defenders reach in and foul him, but more often than not, it doesnt get called.

      • imakcds - Jun 14, 2014 at 10:07 AM

        well, if you’re as big and strong as LeBron, and relied on bulling players over as much as he did/does, it only makes his flopping all the more obvious.

  6. JT - Jun 11, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Fish will be cool, he was able to get Kobe and Shaq’s respect that will translate in the long run.

    http://thefrontofficenews.com/v2/2014/06/11/from-the-hardwood-straight-to-the-bench/

  7. ifiredboss - Jun 11, 2014 at 7:22 PM

    Reblogged this on ifiredboss.

  8. motobus - Jun 11, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    This is just a stupid premise .

    • 22yearsagotoday - Jun 12, 2014 at 11:24 AM

      Not if you spent the last winter in New York freezing and losing and losing and freezing and…

  9. SBoy - Jun 11, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    And generally speeches are not given without reason… randomly… There is a time and a place… if, and big if, Fisher starts going to the speech well too often, and or the team isn’t responding, then yes, it will be PJ’s job to rein him in. But this is a given.

  10. mackcarrington - Jun 11, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    I was a rolling my eyes during his press conference.

  11. jazz11001 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    I think it is an absolute shame that these players have so much power. They hold the league and its fans hostage so that all of the super talented players can go to big markets. Why have small markets? Let there be 10 teams in LA and 15 in NY and call it good.

  12. campcouch - Jun 12, 2014 at 12:00 AM

    Man,I know that feeling. Standing in formation,listening to the LT and Plt Sgt drone on about stuff for like an hour. Soon your body just reactively nods and says yes,but the whole time you’re thinking about beer and tacos.

    Didn’t Joe Flacco say that about Ray Lewis. Great speeches that went nowhere.

  13. kavika6 - Jun 12, 2014 at 1:01 AM

    He has 5 rings but didn’t EARN 5 rings. He was just sort of there, like Steve Kerr.

    He’ll be a terrible coach.

    • 00maltliquor - Jun 12, 2014 at 3:27 AM

      ARE YOU HIGH!!??

      • 22yearsagotoday - Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM

        Of course…you mean you’re not?

    • 00maltliquor - Jun 12, 2014 at 3:29 AM

      I can count 2 rings we wouldn’t have without Fish. 0.4 and Western Conference Finals before our last showdown with the Celtics.

      • musician0785 - Jun 12, 2014 at 9:26 AM

        If he wasn’t getting torched on defense by then there would’ve been any need to make last second shots.

  14. tombstone7 - Jun 12, 2014 at 1:25 AM

    Rings do count, that’s why they play the game!
    Ask Magic……

  15. unxpexted1 - Jun 12, 2014 at 9:00 AM

    Speeches dont’ always impact the WHOLE team, there are always players that tune out that stuff, but also some that get motivated. I dont think it’s that big of a deal. Players respond to certain things and hopefully he’ll be keen on who needs what.

  16. marcusfitzhugh - Jun 13, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Roll their eyes? With the record they had last year? When a player has experienced success and they’re coming off a good season MAYBE. But when someone is part of a team like the Knicks had last year, no.

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