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Phil Jackson, Carmelo Anthony sit down to discuss future, Steve Kerr

May 1, 2014, 12:58 PM EDT

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This is where Phil Jackson is going to win over Carmelo Anthony. Not at some presentation in a hotel boardroom, handing him an iPad with a specially-designed program highlighting all the great things about being in New York, like the burger at Montmartre.

Jackson will win ‘Melo over in a quiet setting, laying out his vision, immersing Anthony in his vision of the Knicks culture and the future.

That started Tuesday night when Jackson and Anthony had a two-hour dinner at a Tribeca steakhouse, reports the New York Post.

The room seats 16, but Jackson and Anthony were alone, the source said, describing it as a place with marble tables and leather chairs. They met for two hours before leaving, the witness said. A source said the duo was in “deep conversation” during their meeting — a good sign.

You can be sure that among the conversations topics Jackson threw at Anthony was, “What do you think of Steve Kerr?

Jackson, for his part, needs ‘Melo to fully buy in on the triangle and a more selfless system. Jackson is being paid $12 million a year not just to recruit Anthony or assemble a roster, but also to actually create a functional corporate culture in Madison Square Garden. That is bigger than Anthony — Jackson needs Anthony to buy in to make this work.

Anthony has said multiple times before that ultimately he wants to stay in New York but he needs to see a plan to make the Knicks competitive fast. He wants a ring.

Ultimately Anthony needs to decide what he really wants most — to lead the Knicks, or to take a healthy pay cut and win in Chicago or Houston? The Knicks could be good again in a few years, but it will be a process no matter what and Anthony is not getting any younger. Go to Chicago and, providing Derrick Rose is healthy, you can be a contender now, but it’s a pay cut and not the Knicks. What is really important to Anthony?

Phil Jackson knows who he is, he knows what he is trying to build, confidence and vision are strengths of Jackson’s. No doubt Anthony basked in that aura and got a sense of the man and the plan.

Is it one he wants to fully buy into? That’s the question on Anthony’s plate, next to that medium-rare rib-eye.

  1. harshedmellow - May 1, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    What’s actually happening is that PJ is helping Melo see that he needs to leave. It’s better for the Knicks, and it’s better for Melo.

    Melo is not young. His window is closing. He doesn’t have the TIME to wait for the Knicks to flush this roster and build around him; by the time the roster is there, he’ll be in decline. Plus there’s no rational way to say that they are contenders next season, period, so next season is a throwaway, then everything PJ can present beyond that is just pie in the sky. “That allows us to go after another big free agent…. to be determined… in 2016!” Then the team needs to mesh with whomever this new big free agent is… as well as a new roster… and all with an unproven, rookie coach.

    So now we are looking at 2017 before there’s even hope of contending, and that “hope” is mainly because there’s SO many variables, and SO much time between then and now, that we can “hope” for ANYTHING! Politicians can promise anything they want in some vague future, because anything is possible if you project out far enough. But here’s the point- Melo is, what, 33 in the 2017 season? Bad things happen to athletes at the age he’s entering. This guy was a one-and-done in college; he has a LOT of NBA miles on that body!

    Jackson needs Melo gone; he knows this. Melo needs to go to Chicago or another team with a coach, system, and roster in place. Swap Boozer for Melo (salary-wise) and what are the Bulls? Instant contender. Now.

    Jackson is laying out a vision, but it’s all a facade. He’s actually, and not unkindly I might add, helping Melo see that he needs to move on.

    • 5pecialk - May 1, 2014 at 1:46 PM

      Unless you were the restaurant server, that’s a lot of presumption there.

      I’ll say this — the triangle offense has never needed a “true” point guard, which is the huge hole the Knicks have. Outside of that, I think the Knicks have enough talented pieces to compete. Let’s face it, Woodson had no control and respect from that bunch. The next coach is key in getting this all to work. Is that Steve Kerr? We’ll see…

    • casualcommenter - May 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM

      “What’s actually happening is that PJ is helping Melo see that he needs to leave.”

      Phil Jackson doesn’t need to set up multiple meetings involving Carmelo and the Knicks’ potential future coach if Jackson wants Carmelo to leave.

      Jackson could just NOT OFFER Carmelo a contract after he opts out of his current deal, and Carmelo would get the hint…

    • marcusfitzhugh - May 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

      harshedmellow wrote “Swap Boozer for Melo . . . . . .”

      You’re kidding right? Why would Phil do that? The Knicks don’t have to swap anything for Melo. If Melo leaves, he’s taking his contract with him. Period. If the Bulls want Melo they can put on their big boy pants and pay him. How Chicago pays for him is not the Knicks problem. Neither are Chicago’s cap issues. When Phil says, “we’re going to move on”. He doesn’t mean, NY should pick up all the trash Chicago leaves at the curb. He means if Melo stays, the Knicks are moving on, and if Melo leaves the Knicks are moving on.

      On top of that – $18.5M for Boozer? When he may be amnestied and available for the veterans minimum? AND you’re counting on Phil Jackson to do Reinsdorf a favor. Look at the history of those two.

      • harshedmellow - May 1, 2014 at 11:38 PM

        No no no…. I meant from Chicago’s perspective, swap what they would pay Boozer for Melo. Amnesty Boozer. They still have to pay the money but it clears cap room big time.

        With Melo an UFA, there’s no player swap happening.

  2. emdawt - May 1, 2014 at 1:23 PM

    He’s staying.

    • harshedmellow - May 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM

      He’s not. And if you are a Knicks fan, you should HOPE he’s not.

      Aging stars on max deals cripple franchises trying to rebuild. You want a “vision of the future”? Look no further than the Lakers. Connective tissues get brittle, things break, star loses mobility (or a season)… now he’s older and slow but still a volume shooter…. salary cap is FUBAR…

  3. harshedmellow - May 1, 2014 at 1:24 PM

    Boom!

  4. au1978 - May 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    Yeah, well if he really wants to keep Melo, he’d better take a page from Pat Riley’s playbook and dump all his championship rings out on the table.

  5. cruzan80 - May 1, 2014 at 3:11 PM

    I don’t think the Knicks are as far off as “everyone” says. Once they inserted a HEALTHY Amare Stoudamire into the starting lineup late this season, which gave them a traditional starting 5 versus the “small ball” lineup Woodson was forced to go with…the team played pretty well. Way I see it…a tweak here, a change in the culture & good health (Amare) & this team can easily win 50+ games again just like it did a year ago.

    1.Trade Tyson Chandler to the Phoenix Suns for one of their three 1st round draft picks. Suns get a veteran who can be a huge contributor on & off the court for a very young team. They’ll still have two 1st round picks & his contract will expire at seasons end if things don’t pan out.

    2.Trade Andrea Bargnani & their 2015 1st round draft pick for O.J. Mayo & Larry Sanders. Buck’s new owner will want to get away from the long contracts. Both Sanders & Mayo are under contract for at least 3 more years. This trade allows them to ditch two contracts for one that expires at seasons end & gain another pick.

    3.Pray for Amare to make through the entire season relatively healthy.

    Starting 5 would be:

    PG. O.J. Mayo
    SG. Iman Shumpert/Tim Hardaway Jr.
    SF. Carmelo Anthony
    PF. Amare Stoudamire
    C. Larry Sanders

    In the “triangle” offense…or a version close to it….this line up would work. Mayo is exactly the type of guard who flourishes in that offense. Big, solid defender, good shooter & takes care of the ball. You don’t need a Chris Paul or a Rajon Rondo to find plenty of success in that offense.

    Sanders offers the same thing Chandler does except for one obvious thing…youth…& probably hunger too.

    After all that they’ll still have Amare’s contract coming off the books next summer & can then go after possibly LeMarcus Aldridge or Kevin Love. Point is…they HAVE to do something to convince Melo that at the age of 30…he should take shun the Bulls (who will surly come knocking), choose a proven coach in Thibs for a likely unproven coach in Kerr & take a pay cut to stay in NY after having one of his best seasons as a pro go completely to waste. These moves get them younger & more talented NOW without completely sacrificing their chances of adding another star next summer.

    • bougin89 - May 1, 2014 at 4:08 PM

      The Knicks cannot trade their 2015 first round pick since they traded their 2014 pick.

      • cruzan80 - May 1, 2014 at 4:24 PM

        Ok, wasn’t sure about that to be honest…just spit balling..I still think the Bucks would do it even without a pick though.

    • eugenesaxe1 - May 1, 2014 at 4:29 PM

      1-Amare isn’t going to stay healthy.
      2-Sanders can’t stay out of trouble in Milwaukee, how do you think he’s going to react in NYC?
      3-Knicks are better off if LaLa leaves.

    • mogogo1 - May 1, 2014 at 4:54 PM

      Amare is never going to be healthy for long periods of time. And looking over all Phil’s championships there were very few key players who were outright terrible on the defensive end but neither Amare nor Melo will ever be solid defensively. One guy like that they could probably overcome but much harder to have two of the starting five be terrible at D.

    • av416 - May 1, 2014 at 9:58 PM

      There is no way the knicks, after mortgaging their future countless times, trade a first (even if they had one to trade) for a guy who just got paid 44 million and has had a nightmare year. I am also not sure a scenario exists where OJ Mayo is a starting point guard in the NBA. I actually disagree with the consistent sentiment on here saying the Knicks aren’t fall off. Outside of Tim Hardaway Jr, I see pretty much nothing to get excited about on the roster.

  6. fm31970 - May 1, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    “2.Trade Andrea Bargnani & their 2015 1st round draft pick for O.J. Mayo & Larry Sanders. Buck’s new owner will want to get away from the long contracts. Both Sanders & Mayo are under contract for at least 3 more years. This trade allows them to ditch two contracts for one that expires at seasons end & gain another pick.”

    A) I don’t think teams can trade their first round pick in consecutive years if I understand correctly, but why would the Knicks want take on Mayo’s and Sanders’ remaining three years? That’s exactly the type of stupid move which got them into their current situation. Great move for the Bucks, but the complete opposite for the Knicks.

    B) Mayo has never been a point guard, and even in the triangle offense, he would be a good pseudo-PG. The Knicks could find a veteran to work in the traingle (Andre Miller, etc.) for a year or two until they can draft and develop someone inside the system.

  7. jackvcr - May 1, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    This is the worst written most BS article ever. No attribution. The clown who wrote it wasn’t there. Same clown wouldn’t know Steve Kerr if he fell over him. Your writers and laughable.

  8. mackcarrington - May 1, 2014 at 4:28 PM

    Oooooooooh. Marble tables and leather chairs. Seats only 16. Sounds real “hoity toity”.
    Does Chicago have a restaurant like that?

  9. AZ Dem - May 1, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    Why do you idiot journalists think the NYK are going to run the Triangle? Because Jackson is in charge of basketball operations? And the Head Coach has no say.

    If they hire Kerr, they are NOT going to run the Triangle. Kerr played for Jackson, but he also played for Coach Pop in San Antone. Kerr is more of a Coach Pop guy than a Jackson guy. But, at the end of the day, Kerr is his own man. He’s going to create his own system.

    If all you want is somebody to run the Triangle, you can go to the Bronx Zoo and get a chimp. Or hire me! I’d be cheaper than the chimp. The Triangle is a college system And Jackson didn’t even create it. It was created by Tex Winter.

    Jackson is smart. In a con-man type of way. He comes in . . . teams are only 1 or 2 steps away from a championship. He does his “guru” crap, and everybody thinks he’s a genius.

    • kanemoney - May 2, 2014 at 1:55 AM

      He has 11 championships rings

      PERIOD

      • sportsfan18 - May 2, 2014 at 1:41 PM

        He has 13 Championship rings…

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