Apr 23, 2014, 12:39 PM EST
I’m not of the belief that Frank Vogel forgot how to coach over the All-Star break. Sure, the drinks are strong in New Orleans, but not THAT strong. Vogel had spent years building a team first system in Indiana that worked well when guys bought in, but when Roy Hibbert started to slump to Kendrick Perkins offensive levels, and when other guys started breaking out of the system, it all came apart. That includes a Game 1 loss to the Hawks in the first round of the playoffs (the Pacers bounced back for a Game 2 win).
Vogel could not easily right the ship — he tends to be inflexible and the Pacers stick to their script no matter what — but how much of this is really on him?
Apparently some in Indiana think a lot.
Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that Vogel, despite a 56-win season that secured the No. 1 seed in the Eastern Conference, is “coaching for his job” in the wake of Indiana’s alarming slide that has stretched into its third month.
Following Indiana’s 101-85 triumph over Atlanta in Game 2 of the teams’ first-round series, sources told ESPN.com that coming back to win the series against the Hawks would not automatically ensure Vogel’s safety….
The decision on whether to retain Vogel at season’s end ultimately rests with Pacers president Larry Bird, sources said, but frustration throughout the organization has been mounting thanks to a nosedive that began in February with a loss in Orlando just before the All-Star break and has show few signs of abating.
If the Pacers make the mistake of firing Vogel other teams will be lined up to grab him. Vogel has shown he can build a culture and system that, with the right players, can win a lot of games and go deep in the playoffs (they made the Eastern Conference Finals last season). You think a building program like Utah could use that kind of guy? And that’s just one example.
Vogel built a system designed around Roy Hibbert’s size and defense that is designed to shut off penetration, that is big and physical. He doesn’t like to vary from that. Which has worked quite well for the Pacers, until the second half of this season. However, in Game 2 we saw adjustments from the Pacers — Paul George on Jeff Teague, switching pick-and-rolls to stop Pero Antic and Paul Millsap from having uncontested threes — but ones that stayed within their identity.
Bird might want to look in the mirror — his moves at the deadline to help this team simply did not. Evan Turner has been a bust, unable to really play in the Indy system (and losing Danny Granger was an emotional blow to the locker room). Andrew Bynum didn’t really hurt this team but if you had any expectations he would help them you hadn’t watched a lot of Bynum in the last couple years.
Vogel is not blameless in the slide, something else Stein, with the help of Chris Broussard, writes about:
ESPN The Magazine’s Chris Broussard reports that sources with knowledge of the Pacers’ locker room dynamic have been insisting for months that Indiana would miss the presence of assistant coach Brian Shaw, who left the club last summer to become the Denver Nuggets’ head man.
Broussard reports that, with Vogel known for being “completely positive” in his approach to dealing with players, Shaw often played the role of “bad cop” and helped keep the Pacers’ potentially volatile locker room from imploding. Shaw’s absence didn’t appear to be an issue early this season, but some insiders believe his absence has been felt during the Pacers’ splintering over the past few months.
That said the issues in Indy are more about the players on the roster and the lack of shot creators far more than it is coaching or styles.
Indy seemed to find some footing in their Game 2 win over the Hawks, but it’s just the first step on a long road to recovery. A road that has a good Washington team (they are good when Nene plays) standing in the way.
But this season is not close to something Vogel should be fired over.
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Ish Smith will stay on the roster.
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Nov 26, 2014, 7:00 PM EST
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