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Grant Hill, Scott Perry emerge as candidates to become Pistons general manager

Apr 16, 2014, 12:50 PM EDT

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With Joe Dumars out as general manager, the Pistons need a replacement.

Pistons owner Tom Gores promised a long search, and given his history with coaching changes, I bet he’ll deliver. So, I suspect many names will be reported as candidates, but here are the first two.

Marc Stein of ESPN:

Perry worked 10 seasons for the Pistons, including one season overlapping with Gores’ reign, before becoming the Magic’s assistant general manager prior to last season. He rose through the ranks in Detroit beginning in 2000, leaving for one year to work for Sam Presti in Seattle, then returning to Detroit. That means he had a hand in the Pistons’ rise and fall – much like the ousted Dumars.

But perhaps Perry could shore up the Pistons’ long-standing coaching deficiencies. He has much more experience in the field than Dumars, serving as Eastern Kentucky’s head coach and working as an assistant at Michigan, Cal and Detroit Mercy.

Hill, on the other hand, has no management or coaching experience. Heck, he was still playing in the NBA last season. Since, he’s worked in television. Unless Gores is willing to commit to letting Hill learn on the job, there would assuredly be costly growing pains.

Perry and Hill are both bright and widely considered to have bright futures. The major difference is Perry has relevant experience to back up his readiness.

If Hill, the former Pistons player who’d be the much splashier hire, wants to become a general manager, he could probably put himself in position by landing a less front-office job and learning the ropes – or finding an owner who values the splashy hire.

  1. rajbais - Apr 16, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    Didn’t they have another ex-Piston call the shots?

    How did that work?

    • jarich01 - Apr 16, 2014 at 1:30 PM

      1 championship. 2 Finals appearances. 6 ECFs. Apparently, not so good, right?

      • rajbais - Apr 19, 2014 at 1:34 PM

        No, not so good because there are only a few good team builders in NBA History: Red Auerbach, Jerry West, and Billy Cunningham.

        Ernie Grunfeld is better than Joe Dumars and Jerry Krause.

      • rajbais - Apr 19, 2014 at 1:35 PM

        Joe Dumars is Jerry Krause with economic nonsense.

        It’s true.

    • sounddawg313 - Apr 16, 2014 at 1:43 PM

      6 ECF one title 2 nba finals, 5 straight non playoff appearances

      • rajbais - Apr 16, 2014 at 3:01 PM

        5 straight non playoff appearances is what sticks out.

        Plus, Dumars traded Billups for Iverson.

        Ex-coaches are better GMs than ex-players. That’s why players fail at GM. Jerry West was a WCF coach in 1977. His perspective is better than a player-turned-GM.

      • weaselpuppy - Apr 16, 2014 at 7:13 PM

        6 ECF 1 title 2 finals-

        This one 6 year run is better than the history of every other franchise not named Boston, Lakers, Bulls, Rockets, Warriors (PHI), Knicks, Heat, Spurs, 76ers.

    • train123321 - Apr 16, 2014 at 1:44 PM

      Well enough to win one more championship than 20+ other nba teams. If they said you can have Grant hill and win one championship or take someone else and see what happens everyone would take Hill. Your point about him being a former piston is shortsighted and null.

      • rajbais - Apr 21, 2014 at 12:06 AM

        “shortsighted and null??”

        Look who’s talking.

        You’re not looking at the risk of Grant Hill.

        He is a liability because he’s uneducated for any NBA front office.

      • rajbais - Apr 21, 2014 at 12:09 AM

        You’re not bright and very gullible.

        You can’t give students A’s when their other grades features D’s and F’s.

        Joe Dumars is mediocre at best and Grant Hill is a “F” student for the GM post because he’s not qualified.

      • rajbais - Apr 21, 2014 at 12:28 AM

        Dumars will not be hired for at least the next two years.

        If gets one he will ruin that team too because he hasn’t left as a good GM.

        GM’s that make bad moves are BAD GMs.

        Since trading for Iverson he’s been bad.

        Aging players are bad because of bad play as aging players.

        Just because Dumars doesn’t wear shorts anymore it doesn’t mean he’s bad.

        He’s not worthy of hiring because he has not proven himself to re-establish credibility.

        Same with Hill. No credibility = No resume = No GM job.

        Hill has no mind or perspective to help as a GM.

  2. mortalkondek - Apr 16, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    I wouldn’t be mad at them for getting Perry. He’s been here before in the good and bad times.

    Hill just doesn’t have the experience needed to turn this thing around, I don’t think.

  3. mogogo1 - Apr 16, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    Grant Hill is a very smart guy. But I have never understood how guys routinely move straight from playing to general manager jobs. There is absolutely no carryover between being a player and running a franchise and being a great player does not mean you’re worth a darn at evaluating talent in others.

    • asimonetti88 - Apr 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM

      Or negotiating contracts.

  4. cruzan80 - Apr 16, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    The smart guy who sits in that one room down the hall looking at tape, gathering stats, scouting other teams etc.…that’s the guy you want as your GM.

  5. ljsimpson17 - Apr 16, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    Scott Perry would make a good GM and Grant Hill would make a better coach than GM

  6. franktown8 - Apr 18, 2014 at 4:42 AM

    Not Grant Hill, i can still remember how he made Dimars do a sign and trade. Get some1 that’s loyal. Put Zeke at the top of list, remember while at T Raptors he was good. Get sompe1 with a good track record on college ball and coaches. They should in turn fire all the present scouts, and hand pick scouts with knowledge. Reasoning how can you not pick a top thirty player, out of all, everybody that’s available for the draft you can’t find one out of thirty . Most of the time we pick in the lottery, so there really is no excuse!!!

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