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Report: Pistons shopping Josh Smith, want more than expiring contract

Feb 20, 2014, 12:30 PM EDT

Josh Smith, Brandan Wright

Two years ago, the Pistons traded Ben Gordon and a first-round pick for Corey Maggette. The players were basically irrelevant, but their contracts were key. Because Maggette’s expired a year sooner, the Pistons got cap space last summer rather than in the upcoming summer.

They, of course, used it to sign Josh Smith to a four-year, $54 million contract that doesn’t look so hot at the moment.

What if the Pistons could trade Smith for Gordon’s now-expiring contract? They might look a little foolish – that draft pick isn’t coming back – but they should at least consider it, right?

I guess not.

Are any teams actually offering an expiring contract for Smith? If they are and the Pistons are still passing later this afternoon, that seems unwise on their part.

More likely, Detroit is just trying to generate a market and/or hasn’t given up yet on Smith.

Considering how poorly Smith and Greg Monroe have played with Andre Drummond – Detroit’s franchise player – and how they also won’t trade Monroe for minor pieces, the Pistons are more likely just trying to drum up interest that isn’t there. But it’s also possible they’re just overvaluing Smith.

Or maybe some of both.

  1. zeedoubleyou - Feb 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    Good luck with that

    • therealhtj - Feb 20, 2014 at 1:29 PM

      Got that right. They’d have to send out a sweetener just to get rid of that albatross deal.

      • ProBasketballPundit - Feb 20, 2014 at 10:52 PM

        Salbatross: salary albatross. Josh Smith is one of the top salbatrosses in the league right now.

    • pbtunpaidwriter - Feb 20, 2014 at 1:32 PM

      Joe Dumars is giving David Kahn a run for his money for worst GM ever.

      I don’t care how they did from around 2002 to around 2007. He ran this franchise into the ground.

      • therealhtj - Feb 20, 2014 at 1:57 PM

        Don’t forget Darko.

      • patsfan92 - Feb 20, 2014 at 5:31 PM

        darko over bosh, wade, melo. AI for Billups…god how did this man keep a job past 2009?

      • zeedoubleyou - Feb 20, 2014 at 7:00 PM

        Don’t forget that Khan guaranteed Darko $20 million after everyone knew he was a bust.

    • pbtunpaidwriter - Feb 20, 2014 at 1:45 PM

      This had to be one of the dumbest signing ever. This was clearly an albatross contract even at the TIME IT WAS SIGNED. Everybody except Dumars saw this coming.

  2. igeorgiaboy - Feb 20, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    Oh you mean they didn’t know that Josh Smith would play like a PG and shoot like a Center when you spent all that money on him?

  3. seenable - Feb 20, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    Just think of what teams offering actual value for Smith says about what they think of the Pistons and especially their coaching.

  4. obmig - Feb 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    they are out of time

  5. jcmeyer10 - Feb 20, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    Beggars can’t be choosers, now can they?

  6. casualcommenter - Feb 20, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    That demand actually makes sense given the rumors that GM Joe Dumars’ time is running out.

    Trading Josh Smith for expirings is great for the Pistons in the long-term because it gives them cap flexibility and makes keeping Monroe a viable option.

    However, Dumars isn’t thinking about the long term. He’s in win-now mode because he’s fired if the Pistons miss the playoffs, so he wants players that can help the Pistons win games this year.

    I don’t think he’ll be successful in getting them, but making that demand makes sense given his job status.

  7. johngalt1783 - Feb 20, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    Drummond is over hyped and over rated. One day he may become a decent basketball player but right now all he can do is rebound and dunk. Okay he can dribble.

    He has the worst plus/minus and second worst Net Rating among all the Pistons regular rotation players. His defense other than a block here and there is pathetic. His shooting not much better.

    Over hyped to the nth degree.

    • zeedoubleyou - Feb 20, 2014 at 1:26 PM

      I had a chance to catch the Pistons courtside a couple months back and thought I was unimpressed with Drummond late in the 4th quarter. Then I checked his line and saw that he had put up a 24 and 19 seemingly without breaking much of a sweat.

      The best players can make the game look effortless.

      • ProBasketballPundit - Feb 20, 2014 at 11:01 PM

        You must have taken advantage of one of those $99 rest-of-the-season ticket packs in Milwaukee.

    • bougin89 - Feb 20, 2014 at 1:30 PM

      “Drummond is over hyped and over rated. One day he may become a decent basketball player but right now all he can do is rebound and dunk. Okay he can dribble.”

      He is raw and needs to develop to become dominant but his size and athleticism alone gets him 13 and 13 a game. That’s extremely valuable, especially for bigs.

      “He has the worst plus/minus and second worst Net Rating among all the Pistons regular rotation players. His defense other than a block here and there is pathetic. His shooting not much better.”

      On a misfit roster put together by Drummond. Look through the stats a little bit. I will agree he shouldn’t be considered a good defender yet but he’s 20 years old. I see no reason why he can’t be a dominate big defensively.

      “Over hyped to the nth degree.”

      How so? Crazy good offensive rebounder, top ten in blocks per game, only takes good shots(i.e. dunks) and his size and athleticism probably can’t be matched by any other big out there. Oh yeah and he’s 20 years old. He’s hyped like he should be.

    • ProBasketballPundit - Feb 20, 2014 at 10:56 PM

      Who is John Galt?

  8. jolink653 - Feb 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    Drummond was projected as a long-term project player coming out in the draft. He has the measurables and you can see the flashes of talent, but there was a good chance he was gonna be a bust and that’s how he fell to Detroit. I think he’s gonna be a fantastic player pretty soon and Detroit will have a great front line if they keep Monroe around for awhile. Smith’s skill set just doesn’t fit in on this team with the way they are constructed

  9. detectivejimmymcnulty - Feb 20, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    I view professional sports teams owners as I do the government. No micromanaging, but there is a place for both. However, I would want both to step in to save people from themselves.

    So, the Pistons’ owner should step in and tell Dumars that if a team is offering expiring contracts for Smith, he needs to do it, now. Dumars won’t though because it would admit he made a horrible signing (which is evident anyway). This is saving someone from them self.

  10. xjokerz - Feb 20, 2014 at 2:57 PM


  11. sportsfan18 - Feb 20, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    So… LESS than a year into a new 4 yr contract, they’re trying to trade him?

    That doesn’t speak well of their front office.

  12. bellerophon30 - Feb 20, 2014 at 4:53 PM

    I just have to wonder if the coaching has been what’s lacking. There are 96 available minutes at the 4 and 5…….that’s 32 minutes a pop for the three if managed correctly. I agree that they can’t play together, and Josh Smith is clearly in “To hell with it, I got my last big contract” mode……. but no team is giving even 40 cents on the dollar in value for Smith at this point. Gotta wonder if they called up Dolan and offered to take Amare and his uninsured next year in exchange. That might have worked, not in a ‘good hoops trade for either team’ kind of way, but in terms of getting rid of a toxic contract.

    Though the idea of Josh AND JR Smith flanking Melo is just hilarious. I’d pay to watch that team, though probably not for the reasons they’d prefer.

  13. bballhistorian - Feb 20, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Dumars is the worst GM in the League. Tell me ONE good move he did for that Franchise after getting Rasheed Wallace in 2003 trade deadline?

    This man picked Darko over Carmelo, DWade, Bosh. That’s even worse than MJ picking Kwame.

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