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Report: Knicks trying to revive Shumpert for Faried trade talks with Nuggets

Feb 11, 2014, 5:23 PM EDT

Kenneth Faried AP

The Knicks continue to shop Iman Shumpert around because: 1) They need to shake up the roster; 2) He may be their most tradable asset as he’s a young player on a rookie deal.

The Nuggets continue to publicly deny that Kenneth Faried is available in a trade, but that’s not what everyone else around the league thinks.

Earlier this season the Knicks and Nuggets had some level of Shumpert for Faried talks but the Nuggets killed it. Now, the Knicks are trying to revive the idea, reports Marc Stein at ESPN.

Denver killed the talks back in November because they wanted a future pick in the deal and the Knicks wanted to do it straight up. It’s hard to see why Denver’s position would have changed. They may need to deal Faried at some point — they are not high on his defense and they know that in a couple years he’s going to get a raise (after his rookie deal) — but that is something they could do this summer just as easily as at the deadline. Denver may like the idea of a “poor man’s Andre Iguodala” in Shumpert but he’s not near good enough to make this a straight up deal, they need more.

For the Knicks, the kind of energy Faried brings, plus his ability to finish inside, would be a big boost off the bench. He’s not a super talented player, but what he brings the Knicks could use.

However, are they really willing to give up another future pick for it? Not likely. At least they shouldn’t.

  1. sellahh - Feb 11, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    Poor man’s iggy? More like 80 year old homeless junkie’s iggy…

  2. whoisrdymlz - Feb 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    I like the deal for both teams but NY has to throw something else of value in. Felton or a pick.

    • knicksmets - Feb 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM

      Is Felton that valuable? More likely they would want hardaway then Felton at least in my opinion. Felton isn’t good enough to sway a deal.

      • sellahh - Feb 11, 2014 at 5:54 PM

        Felton is negative value, Knicks fan is disguise I suppose. Must have not seen that article about how executives consider him the worst starting PG out there.

      • whoisrdymlz - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:29 PM

        No, Charlotte fan. Just trying to satisfy PG need for Denver. Felton may not be the right guy. Just acknowledging that a straight up deal is unlikely.

      • drobstad - Feb 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM

        Of course they would want Hardaway instead of Felton. But trading Hardaway for Faried would be a complete joke… never mind adding shumpert to that deal. Hardaway is a legit starting 2 guard in the NBA in his rookie season. Kid has a chance to be way better than his father was.

  3. garryfish - Feb 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    How about Shumper, Felton and WorldPease for Fared and Miller

    • sellahh - Feb 11, 2014 at 5:54 PM

      I think Denver needs to add at least 3 first-rounders so NY doesn’t get fleeced.

  4. bhunter1995 - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    Why would the nuggets trade Faried for Shumpert? Also, why is NY going for Faried he doesn’t fix any of their problems.

    • pfic15 - Feb 11, 2014 at 8:08 PM

      Because they are the Knicks.

  5. ranfan12 - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    If this trade happens, fire whoever is responsible.

  6. lakerade - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Starting to think there may not be much prime activity come the trading deadline, haven’t come up with any scenarios where teams get better without having to give up a pick. They have become quite the commodity in this new CBA. Cheap labor that can do what pricey guys can do, better investment.

  7. cantonbound13 - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:55 PM

    The Knicks need a new coach first & foremost.

  8. chicagosports2014 - Feb 11, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    The Nuggets just need to Sell the team, why are they trien adding more guards and small forwards to a team that’s loaded. Maybe they do believe in SHAQTIN A FOOL lmao!

  9. cruzan80 - Feb 11, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    They NEED a PG so of course their gonna try & trade their starting SG for an undersized PF who can’t shoot. ….what else would you expect from the Knicks front office???

    • casualcommenter - Feb 11, 2014 at 7:50 PM

      Exactly. It was proven last year that the Knicks’ offense as a whole and Carmelo Anthony in particular function better when Carmelo is at power forward.

      So what do the Knicks do? They trade away a first round pick for Andrea Bargnani, a power forward earning over $10 million per year, and they try to trade a young wing player in Shumpert for Faried, another power forward.

      It’s almost impressive how consistent they are in not understanding where their weaknesses lie.

  10. wowwowbad - Feb 11, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    Shumpert, Udrich, J.Taylor for Faried, 2nd-round pick

    • cruzan80 - Feb 11, 2014 at 8:29 PM

      This trade is wowwowbad….

  11. sonnysuave - Feb 11, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    Both players stats are down from last year & are not exactly making an impact (Shump 7pt/4rb, Faried 10pt/7rb)… so this is a non-story. Meh.

    • sonnysuave - Feb 11, 2014 at 8:04 PM

      But this could be attributed to their coaches who don’t have a clue how to maximize their players talents. If they were traded… they would still have crappy production cuz they’d essentially be trading sucky coaches.

      • sellahh - Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM

        Yes, Mike Woodson bricks all those open threes and botchers all these layups. Also, damn you Mike, stop shooting 1-on-4 Js on fastbreaks!
        Can’t polish a turd, you know.

  12. nykfanwakemeupin2015 - Feb 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    I wish Dolan would sell the team. Seriously between the raptors and the nuggets the knicks cannot find any other trade partners. Its like going back to the same girl you knowingly gave you crabs yet you dont care and keep going back.

    Shumpert has no value. I was his biggest fan. He sucks, he is afraid to play, Mike Woodson ruined him and when he does play well he cannot keep his mouth shut. I have no use for him anymore.

  13. antianarxi - Feb 12, 2014 at 12:25 AM

    the Knicks might as well accept it, they are done for the next 5-6 years minimum. they have no draft picks to give and no good players other teams are interested in to trade. they are in no-mans land.

    • nykfanwakemeupin2015 - Feb 12, 2014 at 12:58 AM

      I wouldnt say they have nothing. They have an eternity of cap space coming in the next couple of years which can be traded away as expiring. Are they going to be building a 2010 Thunder team no not even close but they def are not done for 5-6 years that is ridiculous.

      • nickjackalson - Feb 12, 2014 at 7:47 AM

        since the Ewing days they haven´t gone anywhere, so your optimism strikes me as just that .. their track record proves NY decision-making could benefit greatly from reverting to just rolling dice or flipping a coin

  14. psubeerman21 - Feb 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM

    So they are going to trade their only young player with any value? Good job. It’s a good thing they have a lot of draft picks the next few years. Oh wait.

    • sellahh - Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM

      I think you read Tim Hardaway wrong.

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