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Report: Pistons not looking to trade Greg Monroe despite buzz

Jan 29, 2014, 12:15 PM EDT

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A couple of facts are leading people to speculate about the Pistons.

The first fact is that the Josh Smith, Andre Drummond, Greg Monroe trio is not working out together in Detroit — the Pistons are -6.3 per 48 when all three are on the court together this season (813 minutes), and the team allows 108.7 points per 100 possessions when they are paired, which if you extended it is worse than any team’s season long defense in the entire NBA. However, when you pair two of the three things improve, and not shockingly Smith looks better when playing the four.

The second fact is Monroe will be a restricted free agent this summer and is going to get a big payday. Likely an eight figure a year payday from some team. The Pistons just invested $50 million in a Smith contract and want to pay Drummond with an extension, so can they afford Monroe?

The fairly logical leap from there is that the Pistons will try to move Monroe at the trade deadline in three weeks.

Nope. Doesn’t look that way reports Marc Stein at ESPN.

Sources briefed on the situation told ESPN.com this week that the Pistons have been telling teams with Monroe interest that the restricted free agent-to-be — no matter what you’ve heard — is not available…

Sources say teams calling to inquire about Monroe’s availability are being advised that he’s not on the market.

Of course, this could change as the trade deadline nears, if Joe Dumars gets an offer he likes. And the smart negotiating tactic is to say no until and offer you love comes through the door.

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Dumars was all but ordered by owner Tom Gores to make the playoffs this season, and Josh Smith was supposed to be the key to that (along with point guard Brandon Jennings). But as noted, the big frontcourt trio doesn’t work together (plus Jennings has been… well, Jennings). Detroit is in a scramble with Charlotte, New York and Cleveland for one of the final playoff spots in the East.

The Pistons have a cluttered front court right now, a move of Monroe makes some sense, but they likely don’t get equal value back in a deal (teams feel they can poach him for nothing this summer with a big offer) and less talent may mean less of a shot at the playoffs.

Any way you look at it, you have to wonder how long Dumars hangs on in Detroit.

  1. vikesdynasty - Jan 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM

    Dumars is one of the worse gms in basketball. Charlie V, Ben Gordon signings? Now this huge mess along with Brandon Jennings.

    • DonKellyBaby - Jan 29, 2014 at 2:34 PM

      Dumars has absolutely been one of the worst GMs in the NBA over the past 8 years. He’s made horrible FA signings, bad draft picks, and has done nothing but drive this franchise into the gutter.

      Dumars gets no credit in my book for drafting Greg Monroe or Andre Drummond because those two guys were highly rated prospects that fell into his lap.

      • pbtunpaidwriter - Jan 29, 2014 at 2:53 PM

        Dumars vs Kahn – the face off!

        I thought Kahn was clearly the worst ever but Dumars wants to prove me and everyone wrong.

    • timberwolvesbrisin - Jan 29, 2014 at 3:38 PM

      It’s hard to be one of the worst when you have won a championship with a team you put together. But since then, it has been disastarous, highlighted by the cheeks hiring.

  2. ballin99999 - Jan 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    What they really should do is cut bait on josh smith and get what they can for him. Play Monroe and Drummond together and resign Monroe in the offseason.

    But that would be admitting they messed up in the first place signing Smith.

    • DonKellyBaby - Jan 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM

      The only thing is no team wants Josh Smith for the money that he is owed. The only way the Pistons can get rid of Smith is if they trade him and cash for another bad contract with 1-2 years left.

      The Pistons are handcuffed to Smith because of the amount of money they gave him.

      • ballin99999 - Jan 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM

        I agree that josh smith is not a hot commodity and you would be selling very low on him, But I’d take a comparably bad contract just to open up the logjam in the front court and give Monroe and Drummond minutes for the rest of the year to see if you could build around them moving forward. To me it’s a worthwhile trade off.

  3. watermelon1 - Jan 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    Wizards… NOW is the time to make that splash. Get Monroe. Local college kid that will be you starting center/PF for the next 10 years.

    I don’t know what they’d have to give up in a trade. But this would be huge for a team right on the cusp.

    • cmehustle - Jan 29, 2014 at 5:59 PM

      But what would the Pistons take back in return is the question? Im taking Beal and Vescely or whatever his name is if Im Dumars. Maybe Porter instead of Vescely. And a pick. You guys ready to give that up for Monroe who isnt signed past next season?

      • shanelsweet - Jan 29, 2014 at 7:25 PM

        Your not getting Beal. You’d have to take one of the big guys, either Nene or Gortat and maybe Ariza and the unprotected portion of this year’s pick. Wiz shouldn’t give up Porter, but you can have Vesely if you want him. Monroe and Seraphin would be the big men of the next several years for the Wiz.

      • weaselpuppy - Jan 29, 2014 at 8:24 PM

        Shane….Oh, so we should take back a big because we need to trade one since we can’t work with 3 PF/C in the lineup…..

        I weep for this country….

        Porter is mess. Ariza is past his prime already and by the time the Stones are contending, he’s Danny Granger….I don’t like anyone on Washington. Gimme a couple of the Suns first rounders, or Jeff Green and a 1st…or Evan Turner…assuming Kawhi Leonard isn’t going anywhere because he’s first on the list.

        Vescely…isn’t that like central European scrapple or something I saw in a Chopped food basket?

      • cmehustle - Jan 29, 2014 at 9:16 PM

        Dam @ shanels Dumars has to take one of your bigs?? FYI the contracts have to match up in the NBA in order to make a trade. Nene makes 13 mil per for three more years, Ariza is over 7 for this season. Thats 20 million worth of salary, which Nene still has two years after this one. No one is taking on that contract not even Dumars. But regardless the salaries dont match up with Monroe who is at 4 1/2 left on this years contract. But I do have one for you. Bradley Beal makes 4.32 mil this season, which does work. Try the ESPN trade machine, that would help out your hypothetical trades a lot more and it wont allow random trades like the ones you came up with. Anyway like I said Dumars wants real value, and Monroe is good. Say goodby to Beal, a 1st rounder, and perhaps Porter. Or say goodby to Monroe.

  4. lakerade - Jan 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    I agree w watermelon, the Wizards should make a play here. Either that or for Pau? I dunno, I’m depressed.

    • shanelsweet - Jan 29, 2014 at 7:29 PM

      The Wiz don’t need Pau and his skill set at the price the Lakers are paying him, and I wouldn’t trust him for a minute not to shut himself down because of injury and just take their money.

  5. smarshall3789 - Jan 29, 2014 at 4:04 PM

    Dumars what happened you were doing good back on the day

  6. drago2012 - Jan 29, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    All i can say for Dumars is Milicic!! Drafted one of the best prospects out of Europe and ruining his career for life. If i was Milicic i would go to Detroit and kick Dumars in the nuts!!! On any other team other then Detroit, Milicic would still have been in the league.

    • weaselpuppy - Jan 29, 2014 at 8:32 PM

      mmm…yeah…so…where is LeBron, Wade, Melo, Bosh and eveChris Kaman (who I’m shocked to see was taken 6th overall in that draft even though he’s from my hometwon and I should know that)?

      Oh yeah, where Dorko isnt…In Da League still…

      Dorko was and is still an immature mental midget…

      Dumars has really been on a pretty terrible streak for about 6 years though. It’s like he got Tayshaun at #18 and he ran out of smarts…Monroe and Drummond were no-brainers my mom could have got right…

      Why haven’t they used their amnesty ability when they had CV and BG? I mean Joe added a 1st rounder (which as of today they still lose) to BG just to get rid of him AND take on equal salary for one less year from Maggette instead of just amnestying BG (or CV for that matter..or Stuckey)….baffling, Joe, utterly baffling…

      MAYYYYYBE they are saving it for Brandon Jennings!???! Please?

      • DonKellyBaby - Jan 29, 2014 at 9:15 PM

        I blame the non use of the amnesty more on Tom Gores rather than Dumars. Gores stated multiple times that he didn’t believe in paying someone to not work for him. However, I do agree with you about BG. The Pistons could have just amnestied him and kept their 1st round pick in a talented draft class. Now, you just have to hope the Pistons keep losing or they get lucky during the lotto and keep their pick from going to the Bobcats.

      • DonKellyBaby - Jan 29, 2014 at 9:18 PM

        Also, Darko (while he goes down as historically one of the worst NBA draft picks) was the consensus selection at #2. I actually watched the 2003 NBA draft today, and everyone said that if LeBron wasn’t in that class Darko would have been the unanimous #1 pick.

      • coachjac30 - Jan 30, 2014 at 1:06 AM

        They can’t amnesty Jennings, his deal was signed after the new CBA was agreed on. Also, amnestying is nice, but you still actually have to pay the player.

  7. csbanter - Jan 29, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    Funny how “pistons” fans are crapping on Dumars. The same Dumars that helped them win back to back titles as a player and the 2004 NBA championship as GM. Every team can’t be the Spurs or Miami. Losing it happens yo every franchise at some point.

    • DonKellyBaby - Jan 29, 2014 at 9:16 PM

      Miami bought their last two championships.

  8. weaselpuppy - Jan 30, 2014 at 2:45 AM

    Yes coachjac I know you still have to pay the amnestied player. That way you don’t lose the 1st rounder…but thank you on the Jennings thing, wasn’t sure…I thought that provision died out….so they actually let it expire w/o using it?

    Terrible.

  9. kindasporty - Jan 30, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    The only leverage Dumars has, is the fact that if the Pistons don’t make the playoffs, he won’t be there next year. So Dumars has no reason to sell for pennies on the dollar. If a trade is offered that doesn’t make the team better right now, Dumars shouldn’t pull the trigger. If I were him I wouldn’t be worried about what happens with Monroe next year, because there probably won’t be a next year for Dumars. With all that being said, looking at Dumars track record since Chauncey and company left, I wouldn’t be surprised if he messes this up.

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