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Kobe includes Rajon Rondo when discussing future Hall of Famers who played for 2010 Celtics

Jan 18, 2014, 9:30 AM EDT

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Kobe Bryant is still a spectator these days, not expecting to return from the fractured bone in his knee until sometime in February.

With his Lakers taking on the Celtics in Boston on Friday, memories of better times were brought to the surface, and Bryant was among those sad to see the Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett era end when the Celtics chose to trade them to Brooklyn to begin the rebuilding process.

As Bryant explained his reasons why, he mentioned the 2010 team that took the Lakers to seven games, before ultimately falling in the NBA Finals. And when counting the number of future Hall of Famers he played against that year in the championship round to take home the title, Bryant said there were four — which implied that Rajon Rondo was included in his statement.

From Steve Bulpett of the Boston Herald:

“When we played against them, you saw really good basketball,” Kobe said. “You saw smart players, unselfish players who played both ends of the floor, multi-faceted players.

“So of course I’d hoped for a team like that to stick together, because that’s the maximum level of competition that you’re going to have. I mean, that 2010 series is my favorite series of all time, just because it was the most competitive one. It was the most difficult one. I mean, we’re going against four future Hall of Famers. That doesn’t happen too often.”

Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen are indeed Hall of Fame locks. Rondo, however, would appear to have a long way to go to reach that lofty designation.

Among active players, Basketball Reference lists Rondo as 23rd in terms of Hall of Fame probability, with just a 21.37 percent chance of finishing his career at that level. That feels about right at this point, even though Rondo has exhibited an elite IQ for the game, and has proven capable of coming up big in its biggest moments when the opportunity has presented itself.

Bryant is the only player on that list with a 100 percent probability, even though Tim Duncan in second at 99.9 percent is a shoe-in, as well. So if he sees that quality in Rondo, it’s worth taking notice, even if the Celtics guard would need several more years and many more career accomplishments to eventually earn Hall of Fame honors.

  1. elwaysagenius - Jan 18, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Could’ve meant Doc

  2. davidly - Jan 18, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    Given that they took the lineal championship from the Celtics last night in Boston, he may have been feeling gracious. I think elwaysagenuis is right, though; he meant Rivers.

  3. cardswin519 - Jan 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    He definitely meant Rondo. How is Tim Duncan not a lock at 100%? What dumb ass list doesn’t think Tim is a lock? Just really curious what the .1 percent chance he misses is about… Aaron Hernandez somebody? Oprah interview with a roids confession?

  4. timb12 - Jan 18, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    Could have been talking about Perk…

    • khadeemw - Jan 18, 2014 at 11:44 AM

      yep that perk eurostep got me out my seat yesterday

  5. 00maltliquor - Jan 18, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    He was talking about Scalabrine.

    • jimeejohnson - Jan 18, 2014 at 12:05 PM

      Nope.

  6. 00maltliquor - Jan 18, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Yeah Rondo is going to be a future H.O.F.er, how is this a story, and one of surprise? Rondo’s one baaaad little dude and one of the best playoff performers I’ve ever seen.

    • jimeejohnson - Jan 18, 2014 at 12:06 PM

      He’d give the Lakers a chance to compete with the Clippers.

      • 00maltliquor - Jan 18, 2014 at 12:56 PM

        He’d give Nick Young a chance to have some go**@mn backup next time he gets in a tussle!

    • davidly - Jan 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

      “going to be a future H.O.F.er”
      So he still has a bit to do before he is even a future hall-of-famer. The others mentioned, on the other hand, are already a future hall-of-famers.

      • 00maltliquor - Jan 18, 2014 at 12:59 PM

        Ideally davidly you’d be right. But there are some pretty weak H.O.F.ers in there already, Rondo’s pretty much guaranteed in there for me.

  7. mcmystery76 - Jan 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    Maybe he meant sheed? Ball don’t lie

  8. coachjac30 - Jan 18, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    This story is a joke, Rondo is in no way a future Hall of Famer. The fact that he vastly elevates his play in the playoffs aside (and everyone that uses that argument seems to forget what he had around him) he isn’t one of the top 8 or so point guards in the league right now. If last nights game is any evidence, his assists are not going to be near his norm since his teammates can’t make any shots.

    Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James all 100% locks to be HOF’ers. If Duncan played in a larger market, or was more of a media darling, he would go down as perhaps the 3rd or 4th best player of all time.

    • tfyjman - Jan 19, 2014 at 9:23 PM

      If you mean he’s not one of the top PGs at this moment, maybe, but as a PG he’s as pure as they come. All about assists, that one, unlike others who seemingly can’t be bothered to involve their teammates by passing the rock.

      And as for the list, that’s just nonsense. I wouldn’t call Bosh – especially Bosh – a hall of famer, as I wouldn’t Carmelo, Dwight Howard, Shawn Marion, Pau Gasol, or Deron Williams. Nash, Stoudemire, and Tmac more so than the other five, but it’s still dicey.

      If Rondo elevates his play in the postseason that should give one pause enough for hall of fame consideration, since that’s more than what a lot of others can say.

      Lastly, the idea that “people forget what he had aroud him”, is specious considering the teams Kobe, LeBron, and Timmy had around them during their championship runs. Moreover, as a PG it’s Rondo’s job to use his teammates unlike the SG, SF, and PF who more often than not are on the the receiving end of the ball. In other words, he’s not a finisher; he’s a facilitator.

  9. darbley73 - Jan 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    That list is bogus! It has Chris Bosh listed as a 96% chance at the Hall of Fame, and two time NBA MVP Steve Nash with a 55% chance at the Hall of Fame. Does anyone else see a problem with that?!?

    • genericcommenter - Jan 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM

      It’s come up a few times here, especially because a lot of commenters don’t support Bosh and Vince Carter (think he’s up in the 70%+ area) as likely HOFers. I’m pretty sure it heavily weighs Championships, and that might be because the real HOF does, too. I reality, there are some 4th options on really good teams who were borderline but got in. There are also a lot of #1 guys on less successful teams who put up #s but aren’t in or took a long time getting there.

      For the specific comparison of Bosh and Nash, not saying I agree, but here’s how I see it coming out that way: Just about any player who averaged around 18/8 for a decade and played on a dynasty team is in there. Heck, almost any starting player who put ups #s for a team that won 3 or more titles is in the HOF. I’m not counting role players like Horry, of course. Or guys that put up stats for a few years and then were mediocre and won as reserves. I’m talking about full time starters who produced numbers over a 10+ year stretch and won.

      Nash didn’t lead any Champs, was a late bloomer, and his slow start and late decline really depress his overall numbers- 14pts and 8apg don’t really look that huge. Plus the stats that Basketball Reference uses like PER and WSs are not kind to him. He has a solid career PER but never really elite in a season. His offensive WSs rank high, but in overall WSs he was top 10 three times between 2002-2007. Other guys with a lot or even more assists like Mark Jackson aren’t getting in. Of course Nash is better than Mark Jackson, just going by what I’m observing.

      I don’t know if the prediction thing takes into account future decline and compiling, but Nash has accumulated everything he’s going to and his rate stats will only go down. Bosh’s numbers are on the decline also, but he’s still over 19ppb and 8rpg for his career and started on championship teams. Also, he’s only 29, so even a handful more seasons of 16/6 are going to bring his totals up and he might add a couple more titles. His PER is a little higher than Nash. He has 8 All-star selections. He’s going to approach 20,000 points and 10,000 boards. 8AS, 2+ Titles, 20,000/10,000 w/ 18ppg/8rpg is going to get anyone in the HOF.

      I think the 2 MVPs, multiple All-NBA and AS selections, 10,000+ assists with points closing on 18,000, etc will get Nash in, too. He’s ranking is better than 50% anyway.

  10. money2long - Jan 18, 2014 at 3:49 PM

    okay……

    so are we all just going to act like we don’t have a problem with the fact duncan has a 99.9% chance of getting into the hall of fame?

    i mean seriously. that should be at 110% certainty of duncan getting into the hall of fame. are you kidding me? what can happen from here to then, when he retires, of a .1% chance actually happening? what could happen to that point that we’ll be saying, you know what..duncan isn’t hall of fame worthy.

    i would think someone is keeping his hall of fame seat warm for his arrival.

    safe to say, book it.

    • 00maltliquor - Jan 18, 2014 at 4:25 PM

      No, the real question is how is Chris Bosh so freaking fracking high on that list?? You can’t tell me that doesn’t jump out to you.

  11. antistratfordian - Jan 18, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    LeBron called Rondo a Hall of Famer back in 2012.

    It made some sense then, but I’m not so sure about that anymore – he needed to stay on track and obviously stay healthy. We’ll have to see how he responds to this knee injury and lesser teammates. If he can keep putting up those ridiculous triple doubles (18/20/17… 19/15/14… 16/17/14… 29/18/13…) then I think he has a pretty good chance.

    But previously there was only one player who you could say might threaten 20/20/20 on any given night, and that was Rondo.

    • tfyjman - Jan 19, 2014 at 9:43 PM

      Ralph Sampson got in the HOF in 2012, and he didn’t play but four decent years in the NBA. I use Ralph Sampson because he only played eight years in the NBA, and Rondo is going into his eighth year, so if he retired tomorrow then the timeframes would be comparable, (especially considering both players have experienced knee problems). A cursory glance at his resume on wikipedia will reveal that he was probably inducted more so for his collegiate works than his professional ones. He was a four time all-star, and a one time member of an all-NBA team, same as Rondo, except Rondo was a third team selection. Rondo’s had 4 defensive team call-ups, two from the first and second teams. What’s more, Rondo led the league in steals once, and assists twice. Sampson never led the league in rebounding, blocks, or FG%.

      • antistratfordian - Jan 21, 2014 at 6:29 PM

        Sampson was for a time a national sensation though. Yes, as you pointed out it’s the BASKETBALL hall of fame, so you can make it in even if you stink in the NBA… not that Sampson did.

        Rondo though has yet to make the overall impact that Sampson did.

  12. pharohislife - Jan 18, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, Vince Carter, Pau Gasol, and Tracy Mcgrady all have a higher probability of making the Hall of Fame then Steve Nash according to this list. What is the formula behind this list cause that’s BS.

    • conjecture101 - Jan 18, 2014 at 6:53 PM

      T-Mac is a lock. First ballot.

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