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Report: Kings offer Marcus Thornton or Jimmer Fredette for Andre Miller

Jan 9, 2014, 12:34 PM EDT

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We already knew a couple parts of the equation. First and foremost, we knew the Denver Nuggets have been trying to trade Andre Miller, and wanting that to happen sooner rather than later.

We also knew the Kings have been very aggressive in trying to land Miller. They are aggressive on the trade market in general.

Now, thanks to Ken Berger of, we know what the Kings are offering.

The Kings have offered Marcus Thornton and a future second-round pick as the framework of a deal for Miller, and have presented a package including Jimmer Fredette and a future second as an alternative, two people familiar with the scenarios said Wednesday. Those people familiar with the terms of those offers did not know the third scenario presented by Sacramento, but executives gathered here for the D-League Showcase surmised that it likely involves forward Jason Thompson.

Thornton is expendable to the Kings because they know Ben McLemore is the future for them at that spot. Fredette has never really been able to carve out a role with the Kings.

The question really is who else is calling Denver and are they offering anything better? Denver may be a little patient to see how the market shakes out.

  1. jamesk2465 - Jan 9, 2014 at 1:17 PM


    • norcalkingsfan - Jan 9, 2014 at 2:32 PM

      I wonder how many Jimmer fans actually watch every kings game. If Jimmer was really as much a baller his fans say, he could have easily won minutes over his competition, excluding Isaiah, in Sacramento.

      Other than thomas, the roster has lacked talent at the guard spot for a long time. Jimmer could have easily “freed” himself and gotten decent minutes if he had played well.

      I like Jimmer, and I would rather see Marcus go. But to say Jimmer has been trapped on the bench for any other reason than lack of production is ridiculous.

      The reason Jimmer never got any minutes is because he left his balls at BYU. The guy is a shell of what he showed us in the tourney years back. He has been timid his whole career. If he came out and shot the ball like the player we drafted he could have easily earned a solid rotation spot. When he comes out and plays with confidence he does well. Problem is, he has no confidence in his game. The whole arena/bench/team begs him to launch it.

      The day Jimmer finds his cajones is the day he will be free.

      • cjozz22 - Jan 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM

        @norcalkingsfan….Speaking the TRUTH! I get so annoyed listening to Jimmer fans saying he needs to be “freed”, he is absolutely atrocious on defense and gets burned just about every time down the floor. Yes he still shoots ok every once in awhile, but for the most part he is just too timid and worried about messing up. I hope he can find his niche, but right now he is right where he belongs…the bench.

      • allthingssports247 - Jan 9, 2014 at 4:57 PM

        i for one have watched ever kings game, and think fredette has done everything in his power to earn time. will take this season for instance… fredette is shooting 46% from the floor, and 45% from three… meanwhile he gets 7 min a night… thorton shoots 38% from the floor and less from three, and mclemore shoots 36% from the field and he gets the starting nod.. I’ve never seen anything like the lack of rewarding a player for good play as far as the kings and jimmer are concerned…

      • cjozz22 - Jan 9, 2014 at 5:02 PM

        @allthingssports247, the problem isn’t his shooting it is his defense. And you compared him to our shooting guards…he unfortunately would have an even tougher/impossible time guarding starting or even backup 2 guards. Clearly the whole team is deficient on defense, but poor Jimmer can’t stay in front of anyone.

      • norcalkingsfan - Jan 9, 2014 at 5:53 PM


        Care to comment on all the other seasons he has been in the NBA? Just like his time at BYU, it took him multiple years to get comfortable. Now he is just starting to make the most of his time on the court. This year is the first year I have seen him get comfortable enough to start hoisting shots. Like I said, I would like to see Thornton shipped before Jimmer.

        Everything in his power? Like play like he did at BYU? I haven’t seen that.

      • matthewpgrace - Jan 9, 2014 at 7:07 PM

        I too have watched every NBA game Fredette has played . the simple fact is this joke of an “organization” has ABUSED Fredette for 2 1/2 seasons. Keith Obviously had serious personal problems with Fredette. Fredette went off on many many occasions ( you can check at least 30 you tube highlights) where he would score 10 = 15 points in a quarter and get benched the rest of the game. “smart” hated Fredette so much that he preferred to lose games rather than play him. At one time in th 2013 season Fredette was # 1 in the NBA for PG’s in scoring per minute..after he scored 23 pts in a qtr and a half against the Suns….resullt? More playing time? a start or two on this miserable team? Nope “smart” hit him with a bunch of DNP’s. I could go on on about this abusive spiteful coach …Lets take a look at this year when Malone when asked about Fredette literally mocked the fact that Fredette would see any time at PG. That’s F#$ed up—(Then Fredette played PG against the Suns and had 23 pts and 5 assists.) Then Malone “promised’ that every position except center is an open try out and whoever plays best in the pre-season will start. No guard played better than Fredette shooting %60 from three pt range and over %50 from the field… Malone lied…This year Fredette is the 5th best 3 pt shooter in the NBA 2nd best for PG’s
        What you say about his confidence may be true but Fredette is ALWAYS on a short leash with these Kings.
        Any coach that says to Fredette ” I wont pull you if you make a mistake or miss a shot you are my man, go out there and do what you do” will be greatly rewarded with an All Star Point Guard and a winning team .
        FREE JIMMER>

  2. cowboysfaninbuffalove - Jan 9, 2014 at 1:20 PM

    I read this story 2 days ago on bleacher report. But as a nugs fan I would prefer miller to stay but with domepiece shaw as coach he will never get the minutes he deserves. I would be intrigued with Jimmer as long as he gets enough minutes for once in his career

  3. timberwolvesbrisin - Jan 9, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    Sacramento Gm is an idiot. Youre not competing anytime soon, Miler does not help in the long term, Youre better off losing, plus Fredeette has looked good when he actually got a chance.

    • norcalkingsfan - Jan 9, 2014 at 3:03 PM

      You sound very knowledgable about the subject, especially the inner workings of the Kings new front office. Please continue.

      “Fredeette has looked good when he actually got a chance.” …… How many kings games have you seen since Jimmer was drafted? Of those games, how many has Jimmer played in? Of those that Jimmer played, how many times did he get significant minutes?

    • cowboysfaninbuffalove - Jan 9, 2014 at 3:23 PM

      Miller would be an asset to the Kings for the fact that he is a consumate professional and can teach the other players (Thomas and Cousins) what it’s like to be a real NBA player and to start acting like it

    • cjozz22 - Jan 9, 2014 at 3:30 PM

      An idiot??? So far all he has done is basically turn Tyreke Evans into Rudy Gay (through multiple trades of course)…Rudy isthe three we needed, and if you contest that then look at how much more efficient he’s been since coming over. He is going after Andre because we need veteran leadership, and aside from this tiff with Brian Shaw, Andre is second to none when it comes to mentoring and being a team player. The idea isn’t to win this year, it is to change the cultural of a franchise that was doomed the last 7 years with the worst owners in sports. We are definitely headed in the right direction.

  4. thepittsburghkid - Jan 9, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    It’s Jimmer’s defense that worries NBA coaches. I just hope he gets the opportunity to show he can play at this level, he’s a talent.

  5. 00maltliquor - Jan 9, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    I’m not naming names but SOMEBODY here is a Jimmer hater.

  6. wowwowbad - Jan 13, 2014 at 3:42 AM

    I would like to have deals with the Kings because they are foolish idiots at trading market.

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