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Report: Lakers, Knicks Warriors among teams asking about Kyle Lowry trade

Jan 3, 2014, 7:12 PM EDT

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Toronto has won 9 of its last 12 games — since the Rudy Gay trade they have been the third best team in the East.

The question in Toronto has to be whether to throw out the tanking and lottery plan along with that 2013 calendar. This is a team that should win the Atlantic, likely be the four seed at least in the East and they have a real shot at the second round of the playoffs. Is that the best course of action, or should they get worse now to get a lottery pick and be better later?

At the heart of that debate: Should the Raptors trade Kyle Lowry?

They are still talking about it, reports Ken Berger at CBSSports.com.

In addition to the Lakers, Knicks and Nets, the Timberwolves, Warriors and Celtics are among the teams that have inquired about a deal with the Raptors for Lowry, league sources say. Raptors GM Masai Ujiri has been encouraged by the team’s recent play, as Toronto has gone 9-3 since the trade with two of the losses coming against the Spurs But despite the Raptors’ fourth-place status in the pitiful East, Ujiri is determined to take the long-term view. With the deadline less than seven weeks away, Ujiri is said to have multiple deals he could do for Lowry that would involve receiving an expiring contract in return or slotting him into another team’s trade exception. Taking back future salary would come at a high price, i.e. a first-round pick.

This is the smart play by Ujiri — winning this Atlantic Division and reaching the second round is really fools gold. There are two good teams in the east (in reality there are two elite teams in the East) then the drop is steep. Winning now is not really building a team that will win in the East in a couple years.

If the Raptors can get a deal that helps them long term they should do it.

That said, advancing like that in the post season (and the playoff gate and other revenue it brings) is hard for ownership to turn down. In Toronto, they may not.

  1. biggestredmiami - Jan 3, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    NBA execs really need to sit back and ask what Ujiri knows that they don’t. And by NBA execs, I mean teams like the Knicks who have terrible management and are stuck in holes for years.

  2. 00maltliquor - Jan 3, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    I’ll take him, but for what/who? Just Pau and the Raptors would need over $11 million more in salary to make it work. What kind of garbage from that TOR roster would be forced on us? It wouldn’t even be worth it seeing as how Lowry has one year left too.

    • legend30 - Jan 3, 2014 at 7:48 PM

      Funny that you said “What kind of garbage from that TOR roster would be forced on us?” Ummm, I’m pretty sure the Raptors have more talent than the Lakers. The question should be what garbage the Raptors want from the Lakers?

      • 00maltliquor - Jan 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM

        Nah man, I like my Lakers roster…pretty much everyone on the team.

        I wouldn’t even say that the Raptors are better. Raps are 15-15 in the East. The East. Lakers are down 6 games to them but in the West at 13-19. THE West. The Lakers would probably be something like 20-12 if they had a majority Eastern schedule.

        Plus to make the trade work it would have to be Landry “Way Overpaid” Fields at over $6 mill a year for multiple years, which doesn’t work for our plan next year. And Tyler “Fake Tough Guy” Hansborough. Both of which aren’t getting much burn and contributing to the recent “success” of the Raps post-Gay.

        They sure as heck ain’t sending back Ross, Valanciunas, Johnson or DeRozan. And they can’t trade the new guys yet. Then the rest of the trash hardly makes any money.

      • bucrightoff - Jan 4, 2014 at 12:11 PM

        Raptors strength of schedule of teams played: .522
        Lakers strength of schedule of teams played: .510

        This article is like Exhibit A on the delusional nature of Laker fans. Enjoy the next 10 years off from relevancy, we all sure will.

      • musician0785 - Jan 4, 2014 at 12:33 PM

        lets see some proof about that opponents winning percentage, im always wary of commenters who put numbers out there and don’t cite the source, i find it hard to believe that a team who is playing in a much worse conference, would have an opponents winnging percentage higher than that of a thats already played, Miami, San Antonio, Portland twice, OKC, Golden state twice, the clips….all in the last 2 months

      • musician0785 - Jan 4, 2014 at 12:35 PM

        Oh and the Lakers will ALWAYS be relevant, whether they are good or bad, like the cowboys and the yanks, win or lose the lakers are always the story…get used to that

      • musician0785 - Jan 4, 2014 at 12:37 PM

        The raptors have more talent that the lakers right now because most of the talent on the lakers roster IS HURT.

      • bucrightoff - Jan 4, 2014 at 12:51 PM

        http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings/_/sort/sos

        Only team in the East in the top 15, which would strongly suggest they’ve played more teams in the West than every other East team. That’s what should be most encouraging for the Raptors is that they’ve played a harder schedule than anyone in the East by far (only one to face an over .500 overall schedule), and they’re in 4th place.

      • musician0785 - Jan 4, 2014 at 1:13 PM

        cute link, too bad it doesn’t have the opponents winning percentage you flaunted as fact to make your point….looks like you just made it all up based on looking at a schedule

      • bucrightoff - Jan 4, 2014 at 1:16 PM

        Like most Laker fans, not particularly bright. You are aware that strength of schedule is based on opponents winning percentage? The records of the teams you’ve played is the basis of the calculation…

      • musician0785 - Jan 4, 2014 at 1:37 PM

        and like most heat fans you just got here 3 years ago…..

      • musician0785 - Jan 4, 2014 at 1:38 PM

        and what kind of loser thumbs up his own comment?

      • bucrightoff - Jan 4, 2014 at 1:40 PM

        Considering all your comments are factually incorrect or just dumb, and they somehow have thumbs up, I’d imagine you’re the kind of loser who would thumbs up his own comments.

        Likewise, search this site and you’ll see pretty quickly I’m not a Heat fan. Far from it.

      • 00maltliquor - Jan 4, 2014 at 1:44 PM

        @ musician0785

        Don’t worry about bucrightoff’s bs stats. 1st off, the difference between .522 and .510 is .12

        Plus LIKE I SAID, Eastern conference teams play other Eastern conference teams more. The West is stacked and loaded.

        So for instance, those other East teams are playing other East teams more too…lets just say 2-1 more then West teams. So they are playing the weak East 66% (guestimated number off the 2-1 theory) of the time, minimum. And the Raps only got a .12 advantage over the Lakers??? FOH!!!

        Lets take away the top 2 teams from either coast. So who are the next biggest challenges….

        East

        ATL
        WAS
        DET
        CHI
        CHA
        BOS

        West

        SAS
        LAC
        HOU
        GSW
        PHX

        So once again…FOH bucrightoff!

      • bucrightoff - Jan 4, 2014 at 1:51 PM

        Jesus Laker fans….SOS is based on who they’ve played. At the moment, the Raptors have played a more difficult schedule than the Lakers, and they have a better record too. Now by the end of the season will this balance out? Yes, the Lakers will have played a tougher schedule. Which is irrelavent to strength of schedule now. That’s why it fluctuates throughout the season. The Raptors for instance have already played:

        San Antonio twice
        Indiana twice
        Miami twice
        OKC
        Houston
        Golden State
        Portland

        Thats’s 1/3 of their entire schedule against teams with .630 or better winning percentages. That would be why their SOS is so high right now.

      • 00maltliquor - Jan 4, 2014 at 2:45 PM

        bucrightoff

        Why don’t you post who the Lakers have played while you’re at it?

        Lakers

        (2 ranked team overall) POR
        (3) OKC
        (4) SAS
        (5) MIA
        (6) LAC
        (7) GSW 3X
        (8) HOU
        (9) PHX 2X
        (10) DAL
        (11) ATL 2X

      • musician0785 - Jan 4, 2014 at 2:47 PM

        give me a “dumb comment” that I’ve posted…..don’t worry i’ll wait….only a person who has a severe bias against the lakers (which you surely do) would look at Toronto’s roster, ignore the ALL the Laker injuries and proclaim that Toronto has more talent….I’d like to see their record if they lost EVERY point guard on the roster.

      • musician0785 - Jan 4, 2014 at 3:07 PM

        its ok i get it, you dont like the lakers…most people who visit this site don’t….that’s why any person who comments in support of the Lakers and their players gets thumbs down, even if it makes sense, but stop trying to insult my intelligence, you come off as a petulant 5 year old…call the lakers fan delusional because they dont think that a raptors team that they beat without Kobe, is better…..smh

      • bucrightoff - Jan 4, 2014 at 3:30 PM

        The initial point was the Raptors have nothing the Lakers want. When you consider all factors, age, contract status, injury history and potential, the Lakers have no one on their roster the Raptors would want. At all. Meanwhile the Lakers could use a Jonas or a Ross or a Lowry pretty badly. But they have little to offer other than draft picks, because their roster isn’t very good.

      • musician0785 - Jan 4, 2014 at 6:59 PM

        They have nothing they want because both teams have similar players,not because the Lakers roster “isnt very good…. Ross–Wes Johnson, Jonas–Gasol, Amir Johnson–Jordan Hill the player in need for the lakers is point guard, because every single one on the team is hurt significantly. The Lakers could use Lowry that’s it…

    • m4a188 - Jan 4, 2014 at 8:24 AM

      Ignorance is bliss

  3. moseskkim - Jan 3, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    its crazy… they could get the 3rd seed in the East. WOW. but yeah if they could get more assets and build for a stronger future, they should do that. however i dont know. obviously youd choose future over a quick ending present.. but i dont think its a sure thing that they have a good future anyways while its a pretty sure thing that they will place pretty high in the seedings.
    on to lowry… dude is balling. if he can keep that up, wow one of the top pg’s in the league. of course consistency is the name of the game but he is doing some things in toronto for sure

  4. brugis23 - Jan 3, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    I agree with legend, another proof Lakers fans are delusional.

  5. bounce028 - Jan 3, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Out of the teams named I can’t really identify anything Ujiri would be interested in taking back. I’m assuming a Gasol-for-Lowry swap isn’t in the long term plans for the Raptors either. Sorry malt lol, wishful thinking.

    Also, I don’t really understand what Ainge is doing in Boston either. First Asik, now Lowry; what is the goal? I’m not really sure the C’s even have a direction. Neither guy screams building block to me either.

  6. 00maltliquor - Jan 3, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    Nah man, I like my Lakers roster…pretty much everyone on the team.

    I wouldn’t even say that the Raptors are better. Raps are 15-15 in the East. The East. Lakers are down 6 games to them but in the West at 13-19. THE West. The Lakers would probably be something like 20-12 if they had a majority Eastern schedule.

    Plus to make the trade work it would have to be Landry “Way Overpaid” Fields at over $6 mill a year for multiple years, which doesn’t work for our plan next year. And Tyler “Fake Tough Guy” Hansborough. Both of which aren’t getting much burn and contributing to the recent “success” of the Raps post-Gay.

    They sure as heck ain’t sending back Ross, Valanciunas, Johnson or DeRozan. And they can’t trade the new guys yet. Then the rest of the trash hardly makes any money.

  7. crownmethegoat - Jan 3, 2014 at 9:03 PM

    All hail Masai

  8. bucrightoff - Jan 3, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    The thing is trading Lowry isn’t enough for the Raptors season to become a lottery one. The East is just so awful that 8 teams have to make it by the rules, but there are probably 5 teams that are still worse than the Raptors in the East alone. Pretty much the only way they can get into position to get one of the top 5 guys is to purge their entire roster except Valanciunas.

    With how well they’re playing and the fact fan interest is way up (the game against the Pacers was up 50% in the ratings over a game the same day last year), its gonna be hard to tear apart what appears to be the 3rd best team in the East.

  9. brotherlove2012 - Jan 3, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    I never thought I would say this, but the Raptors are indeed better than the Lakers … At least this year … And the Lakers are in no position to trade for anyone, unless Gasol is involved in the trade. There is a lot of garbage on that Lakers roster, a lot.

  10. jolink653 - Jan 3, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    Ujiri has the Raptors in a good place right now. They’re competing in what was supposed to be a tanking year and the value on the players he’s looking to trade is sky-high. He can sit and wait to be blown away by an offer, or he can keep his players and try and put a run together with a lot of talented players. Wish the Knicks had someone like him in their front office.

  11. 950003cups - Jan 4, 2014 at 12:45 AM

    He’d be crying if he were sent to NY. Good thing they have nothing to offer.

  12. greasestain - Jan 4, 2014 at 1:40 AM

    I have a feeling the W’s are showcasing Bazemore. He’s been playing a lot more minutes.

  13. buffalo65 - Jan 4, 2014 at 6:00 AM

    My concern with Lowry is he was out of shape the last couple years, this year he is playing with a purpose,(money). He will get a max deal and go back to last years form.

  14. johngalt1783 - Jan 4, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    “This is the smart play by Ujiri — winning this Atlantic Division and reaching the second round is really fools gold”

    Ban me but this comment shows 100% ignorance of the Raptors roster. Their starters average 24 and reaching the second round is fools gold. SMH

  15. johngalt1783 - Jan 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    “This is the smart play by Ujiri — winning this Atlantic Division and reaching the second round is really fools gold”

    Ban me but this comment shows 100% ignorance of the Raptors roster. Their starters average 24 and reaching the second round is fools gold. SMH

    As to Lowry. You can see it in his eyes and deameanor. He loves winning and has stepped up his game now that the Raptors have a legit shot at making the playoffs

    • absentstars - Jan 4, 2014 at 11:14 AM

      He also loves fighting the ladyrefs. What a punk.

  16. ravenswhat - Jan 4, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Lol…only Toronto would start winning in a year of the best prospect(s) since Lebron. Only Toronto!!

  17. bhunter1995 - Jan 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    Unless Masai trades everyone, the Raptors won’t get a great pick this year, the east sucks to a point where the Raptors would need a 15 win season to guarantee top four (worst record = guaranteed top 4), and if they don’t get in the top four through dumb luck, they will probably land in tenth or eleventh. I think Masai should just work with the roster as it is. There is a lot of young talent on the Raptors that is developing and if they develop their young players the right way they could have some future all stars on the team. If they make good off season signings and make smart picks in the draft they can become a contender even if they don’t have top 8 picks.

    It’s possible to make a contender with “bad” picks if you have a good GM who can find underrated players. Look at the Pacers, not one of their go to guys was picked in the top 8. George was 10th, Hibbert was 17th, Lance was 47th, Granger (who was an all star before injuries) was 17th and Hill was 27th.

    With picks in the teens, Masai can find good players, there are always players who slip through the top ten who will be impact players, even some immediate impact players slip into the second round with all of the GM’s and owners in the NBA who can’t evaluate a can of tuna.

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