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Report: If Nets don’t turn around, Kidd likely gone by All-Star Game

Dec 27, 2013, 7:48 PM EDT

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The Nets first mistake was hiring a coach with no experience — a guy who was going to need a learning curve — and putting him in charge of a veteran team with a one-year (two at best) title window. There was no margin for error.

Yet everything has gone wrong. It started with injuries — Deron Williams through training camp into the start of the season, now Brook Lopez for the rest of the season — and has spiraled thanks to the 27th ranked defense in the NBA.

It’s a mess. The Nets are 9-19 heading into the weekend and it’s hard to see how Jason Kidd is going to pull them out of it.

Which could cost him his job, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.

Here’s the question management is grappling with: Does Brooklyn start unloading its star players and stay the course with the coach, or unload the coach and let someone else coach these star players?

The loss of center Brook Lopez doesn’t deliver Kidd the guarantee of surviving his first season as coach. Whatever the dismal Atlantic Division standings say about the Nets trailing first place by only three games, Kidd won’t reach the All-Star break without restoring order to his team.

The report says that as things have gotten worse Kidd has isolated himself in the organization, away from management and the players. That’s not good.

Struggling teams need a lot of structure and very defined roles for players, which helps them turn things around and start to gain confidence. That isn’t happening in Brooklyn, Wojnarowski reports.

More than once, sources said, players have stood in the locker room and told Kidd they don’t understand their roles, that there’s confusion about their principles. When the Nets players keep insisting they don’t have a team identity, they’re offering code words for Kidd’s inability to give them clear structure, organization and vision.

The report gets into Lawrence Frank being let go, I’m not going to beat that dead horse again. Suffice to say, with Frank gone Kidd doesn’t have a scapegoat anymore.

The bottom line is the bottom line — Mikhail Prokhorov is paying $190 million for this team and he isn’t getting the contender he wanted. He’s not even getting a playoff team as of right now. If you’re spending that kind of money, you want your money’s worth.

If you’re not getting it, you demand changes. That should worry Kidd.

That said, if Kidd is fired GM Billy King and Prokhorov’s ownership group need to step to the podium at the press conference and accept the responsibility for the mistakes they made with this hire and roster construction. We’ll see if they would be willing to do that.

  1. 1historian - Dec 27, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    Meanwhile down in Beantown those sounds you hear that are now just snickers will get louder and louder.

    Good move DA – Red taught you well.

    Q: What do you call the combination of
    1) a GM who doesn’t know what he’s doing,
    2) a rookie coach who doesn’t know what he’s doing
    3) a Russian with more money than brains?

    A: A Celtics’ trading partner

    • adoombray - Dec 27, 2013 at 8:34 PM

      Nobody who actually lives in Boston calls it Beantown, except for the drunk guys around the Fenway trains in ratty Sox coats

      • 1historian - Dec 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

        And old farts who now live in Maine who used to live there when it was occasionally called beantown.

        But if you can spot me down there sometime in a ratty sox coat and call me out I’ll give you a 5 lb. bag of s..t.

        My point was this – the nets have been had – big time.
        Shades of Dallas-Minnesota

  2. legend30 - Dec 27, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    Reggie Evans to Miami.

    • kinggw - Dec 27, 2013 at 8:08 PM

      The Heat don’t need another undersized, offensively-deficient big. They already have Joel Anthony.

      • zoomy123 - Dec 27, 2013 at 10:32 PM

        Yeah, but at least Regie Evans can rebound, lol

  3. rickyspanish - Dec 27, 2013 at 8:44 PM


    That’s too funny.

  4. dbones750 - Dec 27, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Don’t let the door hit you, amateur.

  5. reupjosh - Dec 27, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Billy king needs to go too… His track record speaks for itself.

    • innovativethinking87 - Dec 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM

      Haha sure does traded for Gerald Wallace for only a top 3 protected pick. Which of course turned into Damian Lillard currently running the best team in the nba… Hilarious

  6. wingslax35 - Dec 27, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    Kidd’s hire has the Russian written all over it. Say what you want about Billy King, but no way he hires a just retired player to be head coach.

  7. bigdaddy44 - Dec 27, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Why wait until the break? It was very clear early on that Kidd was not just inexperienced, but completely clueless. Start the new direction now, trade the vets quick, seeing as they have already dumped their draft for the next few years.

    • 1historian - Dec 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

      By 2016 the Celts will be back big time the Nets will be in the lottery and 2 of their lottery picks from 2016 thru 2018 will be the property of the Celtics.

  8. mvp43 - Dec 27, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Shouldn’t the blame go to the person who hired Kidd and the owner for allowing it?

    • jcmeyer10 - Dec 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM

      That’s not how it works in NY.

  9. 1bucfan813 - Dec 27, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    No one really takes Jason Kidd seriously, the team is not behind him.

  10. djlexluger - Dec 27, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    P.J. Should’ve got the job.

  11. fpsdean - Dec 27, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Kidd is easily the worst coach in the league, and may be the worst coach ever.

    But he could still win if he got to coach the Miami Heat!

  12. hahapapa - Dec 27, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Can’t feel sorry for Nets. Carlisimo did a hell of a job last year , don’t even know if they gave him an opportunity to coach this year or not. Why the hell would you turn all those ego’s over to a rookie coach anyway? Especially DWills ego,, what a putz.

  13. gabe77 - Dec 28, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    I wish I could have a job that pays as much as Billy King’s with no track record of success to warrant it. I’m pretty sure I could do at least as good as he has done. Scratch that, I’m sure I could do a good bit better just by exercising some simple common sense.

  14. kxlllxst - Dec 28, 2013 at 5:15 AM

    Celtics fans are ridiculous in claiming that ‘the Nets were had’ in the off-season trade. Tell me again what Boston got out of the trade? Spare parts?

    • 1historian - Dec 28, 2013 at 8:59 AM

      They got a few players who are playing now on the team, but that was not what they were after.

      Boston is in a rebuilding mode.

      Doc Rivers is not into coaching a young team, he leaves for the Clippers. Boston has the Clippers 2015 #1 choice.

      Doc is gone, Ray Allen is gone to Miami, that leaves Garnett & Pierce. They both know that the Celtics are in no way a contending team, they accept a trade to Jersey.

      The Nets believe that they have all the pieces for a championship contender except players who have been there & done that – Pierce & Garnett. They trade a few utility players and THREE FIRST ROUND DRAFT CHOICES to the Celtics basically for Pierce & Garnett.

      P&G are past their primes and will be gone within 2 years, meaning the Nets have to win it NOW.

      How’s it going so far? So far the Nets are 9-19, their rookie coach hasn’t got a clue and will probably get fired, P&G don’t look too happy. At this rate it is entirely possible that they will get in the lottery, which means that it is entirely possible that the Celtics will have TWO lottery picks in a draft that is shaping up as one of the best in a while.

      The Celtics – A rookie coach out of college, so far they have a better record than the Nets. There are 50 games to go in the season and they will probably start losing games and get in the lottery, but they are NOT tanking to accomplish that.

      With any luck – in a few years they will be back, the Nets will be down in the dumps headed for the lottery, and the Celts will have their #1 draft choices in 2016 & 2018.

      I hope this answers your question.

    • jcmeyer10 - Dec 28, 2013 at 9:44 AM

      1historian did a great job. What he glossed over was the value of those spare parts. 18.5 million dollars is coming off the books after this year. Humphries could net assets from a contender who can play bench minutes and comes off the books after the year.

      Bogans is 5 million off the books after this year, Brooks is off the books. All in all, they have draft picks and cap room to sign a max player and solid depth.

      Meanwhile the Nets are paying 2 times over for their roster and have given up several draft picks. This is a historic fleecing.

  15. thephillyflyer - Dec 28, 2013 at 5:45 AM

    How Billy King continues to gain employment as the chief bottle washer in roster construction is beyond me. Nice guy…but just a terrible decision-maker.

    I think you could take 10 random trolls from here and put them in his spot and get better results.

  16. j0esixpack - Dec 28, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    Kxlllxst – you don’t follow basketball if you think the Celtics consummated that trade to win it all this year

    What they traded was a mediocre present (though even with role players and a good coach they’re better than the Nets) for a strong future

    Right now Ainge has stockpiled enough future #1 picks to get anyone he wants in this year’s deep draft and also shop draft picks and players for any player via trade as he also freed up major cap space

    The Nets gambled all to “win now” and if you hadn’t noticed – they’re not

    All that being said, I thought the Kidd experiment could have worked. That there were enough level headed veterans who wanted to win enough to push themselves without a hardassed coach to make them

    I, and the Nets GM, were wrong about that

    Hopefully Pierce and Garnett can be traded to the Clippers where they should have been allowed to join Doc right from the beginning

  17. csbanter - Dec 28, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Firing PJ was a mistake. Prokorov is learning for the first time money can’t buy one everything. Chemistry wins NBA championships.

  18. konichiwabtches - Dec 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    They can’t fire Kidd .. He’s part owner of the team remember ?

  19. mcsuave - Dec 28, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Great. Should not have been hired in the 1st place. How do u commit that kind of money with an unproven and inexperienced coach? Hollins should have gotten consideration before Kidd.

  20. thomaskouns - Dec 28, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Media always get this wrong – great players don’t always make great coaches, GM’s or owners.

    Skill sets are very different….

  21. vstyle23 - Dec 31, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    George Karl children! Go get George! He’s useto working with big mouths and still getting them to succeed. Check the track record. I know I know, your thinking running is an issue. They can sit the old farts down and let DWill play that style especially without a center
    George Karl

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