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PBT Extra: Previewing Heat vs. Lakers Christmas Day matchup

Dec 24, 2013, 5:00 PM EDT

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Another game that looked better on paper before the season — LeBron James comes to take on Kobe Bryant on Christmas Day. Except Kobe’s fractured knee has fractured some of this game’s appeal.

In the latest PBT Extra Kay Adams asks what the Lakers need to do to win this game — pound the Heat inside with a whole lot of Pau Gasol and Jordan Hill. Problem is, the Lakers like to run under Mike D’Antoni and while they play better that way they don’t play better than the Heat that way.

  1. timcast12 - Dec 24, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Clearly the Lakers are going to win

    • money2long - Dec 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM

      and thus the came shall come to be known as, the christmas miracle.
      kobe would have really made things interesting. now, the current lakers will have an extremely narrow margin for error. don’t be surprised of the outcome of the game, as televised games like this, coupled with a true underdog, will bring out the best in some players.

      • money2long - Dec 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM

        the game *

      • antistratfordian - Dec 24, 2013 at 7:03 PM

        The Lakers would’ve had an extremely narrow margin for error even with Kobe. Has Kobr ever beaten Wade or LeBron on Christmas? He hasn’t. 0-4 vs Wade. 0-2 vs LeBron.

        I think over the last 10 seasons the Lakers are something like 3-7 on Dec. 25.

      • money2long - Dec 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM

        it’s 2013. why does what happened on other christmases even matter ?

      • antistratfordian - Dec 26, 2013 at 4:57 AM

        It doesn’t have to matter if you don’t want it to, but Bron and Wade are now 7-0 vs the Lakers on x-mas.

      • money2long - Dec 26, 2013 at 3:32 PM

        the play once on christmas. not 7 times on christmas. talking about what happened in years past has nothing to do with what will happen the next time they meet on christmas. funny ur statement proves my point, in that, you mention individual player going aainst a team, the lakers. u fail to see your blunder yet again. there will always be shifting parts. the fact that something happpened yrs agos, has any bearing on the current game becauseeee ? hahah

      • antistratfordian - Dec 26, 2013 at 4:50 PM

        talking about what happened in years past has nothing to do with…

        Heh, no. That might seem like common sense to the half witted, but as Shakespere said, “what’s past is prologue” – or as others like to say, “the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior” – or in another way, as you can sometimes hear the laws of physics mumbling, “there’s no intrinsic difference between the past and the future.”

        Unlike other sports, a basketball game can more often be entirely about the efforts of one player. The trajectory of a franchise very often just comes down to what one player is doing. And you can’t discount the history of certain players on certain stages or in certain circumstances. This is why people felt comfortable about the Bulls winning the title in 1998 – because of what Michael Jordan did from 1991 thru 1997. But here you just sound like a wishful Jazz fan saying, “well what happened last year, or the years before that, doesn’t matter.” Sorry, it matters.

        So don’t be surprised the next time LeBron and Wade face the Lakers on Christmas and they end up a combined 8-0. That can be reasonably expected just like LeBron’s team ending up in the playoffs regardless of the quality of his teammates – or James himself ending up with a PER around 30.0 – or Kobe struggling in a Game 7 – or LeBron playing great in a Game 7.

      • money2long - Dec 28, 2013 at 12:32 AM

        ur a mess. that has nothing to do with this situation as there are many moving parts. the teams’ construction is changed from year to year. that’s what you don’t get. are you including lebron’s time in cleveland ? because i certainly dont think he’s been playing with wade for 7 years. you’re just taking out these two players , wade and lebron, and using previous Christmas day games and comparing them to a franchise? players moving around changes the statistical evidence you find. it becomes irrelevant.

        what you’re doing is saying for instance, what if lebron gets traded to a bum team. and the lakers next year get kevin love and chris paul. this is all hypothetical, taking the cba out of the picture, just for example purposes. are you telling me because lebron has a winning record against the lakers on christmas that his bum squad will win against this new team? previous games have no bearing because it’s not the same team. lebron was in cleveland. and now he’s in miami. the lakers team is not the same. you can’t use those old stats. it’s irrelevant.

      • antistratfordian - Dec 28, 2013 at 2:58 AM

        what you’re doing is saying for instance, what if lebron gets traded to a bum team. and the lakers next year get kevin love and chris paul. this is all hypothetical, taking the cba out of the picture, just for example purposes. are you telling me because lebron has a winning record against the lakers on christmas that his bum squad will win against this new team?

        Basically, yes, because that’s what happened when LeBron was on the Cavs.

        What I’m saying is you should expect LeBron to beat the Lakers under all circumstances in general. If he’s active, the Lakers chance of winning isn’t going to be great. Doesn’t matter what team he’s on.

        This is not just about Christmas, it’s any game against the Lakers – especially if Kobe is playing.

        And you are seriously underrating LeBron if you think the Lakers adding Kevin Love and Chris Paul would make that much of a difference to him in a game he really wants to win. You could add Durant, Love and Paul and it probably wouldn’t matter in a game like that.

        People really take LeBron’s greatness for granted – they still do not know exactly what they’re dealing with.

      • money2long - Dec 28, 2013 at 8:15 AM

        what you’re saying is besides the point. diff teams, all other records do not matter. the fact you’re trying to make it seem as though there is some consistency when these guys switch teams is mind blowing hahah you try soooo hard for lebron. he should pay you !!!

      • antistratfordian - Dec 28, 2013 at 9:04 AM

        Heh. This is NBA basketball – the teams do not really matter when you’re talking about a certain caliber of player. Or did you think the fall of the Cavs and the rise of the Heat was just a coincidence?

        LeBron can join any team in the league and turn them into a contender just by him being there.

        This doesn’t apply to other star players – like Kobe or Wade – they couldn’t turn just any ol team into a contender. LeBron can.

        Your underappreciation of King James is at dangerously low levels.

      • money2long - Jan 25, 2014 at 3:13 PM

        tell me how i under appreciate lebron , im curious

      • antistratfordian - Jan 25, 2014 at 3:23 PM

        You’re disagreeing with me. Don’t.

      • money2long - Jan 25, 2014 at 10:12 PM

        well said.
        not.
        lol

  2. jerdogthompson - Dec 24, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    What a joke. Why do people even comment on these Laker articles? It’s my last time for sure.

    • money2long - Dec 24, 2013 at 10:29 PM

      if only antistratfordian took this same approach. can i get an AMEN

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