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Carmelo Anthony: LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh were ‘smart’ to team up

Dec 22, 2013, 12:30 PM EDT

2013 NBA All-Star Game

Begin panicking, Knicks.

New York has built its entire foundation around Carmelo Anthony. He’s the team’s unquestioned top player, the type of star who yields incredible power within his franchise.

He’s also, as you might have heard, planning to become a free agent this summer.

As much power as the the Knicks have given Melo, they have little re-assurance in return. Melo could just leave with New York in the offseason with the Knicks getting no compensation. It has to be an uneasy feeling for the team’s management.

This won’t settle them.

Melo on LeBron James and Chris Bosh signing with Dwyane Wade and the Heat in 2010, as transcribed by Ian Begley of ESPNNewYork.com:

“They were smart,” Anthony told NBA TV’s Ahmad Rashad. “I think it’s smart. It was their choice.”

If it’s smart to team up with other stars, why would Melo stay with the Knicks?

The closest thing they have to a star is Tyson Chandler, and he can’t stay healthy. At 31, he won’t have an easier time avoiding injuries in the future.

The Knicks will have no cap room this summer, and they’ve already traded their 2014 and 2016 first-round picks, so it will be nearly impossible for them to sign or trade for a star.

That must mean Anthony wants to go somewhere else, right? Melo, via Begley:

“I’m not saying I want to go somewhere else,” Anthony told Rashad. “When I first got to New York, I always told myself it would be a three- to three-and-a-half-year plan just to rebuild. I knew we took a step backwards as an organization for me to get here. So we had to rebuild.

It’s been nearly three years since the Knicks traded for Anthony, and they’re far worse than they were when they acquired him. Is there any way they’re going be rebuilt by the end of this season? I don’t see it.

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The Knicks have two main hopes for re-signing Melo:

1. Melo preferring to be the lone star on a team

2. Convincing him that taking the contract they can offer him, larger than any other team, out weighs any other consideration

Melo’s comments shows No. 1 might not be the case. Better focus on No. 2.

  1. cantonbound13 - Dec 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Trade him to the Lakers or Clippers. Maybe you can get Griffin in return. If the Lakers trade for him, demand they take Amare & his contract.
    Bottom line, start over.

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    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 22, 2013 at 9:00 PM

      Love, I mean LOVE, articles comparing the Knicks to the Heat. I know you’re on the wrong side of this; but if you look at it objectively, I’m sure you can understand how nice it is on this end.

      You see the Masters-style Green Jackets Wade bought for the team? That’s awesome. ‘Sheed broken out the Championship Belt a few years back and that was cool, but I think the Green Jackets are cooler.

      Anyway, tough game today. We knew it was coming though.

      • cantonbound13 - Dec 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM

        Merry Christmas ’72. Hopefully Santa brought you a Melo jersey.

    • jimeejohnson - Dec 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM

      Hey pea brain: Melo’s your buddy, and he’s in awe of the Heat.

  2. prareedoggin - Dec 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Carmelo calls a meeting with Pat Riley and the Big 3. Discusses all of them taking an equal share and promises to play defenses and is fine being a 3rd option. Everyone takes a pay cut and Riley adds the perfect compliment role players. Yea i dream big lol Go HEAT

    • sportsfan18 - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM

      only problem is that Melo doesn’t know how to play defense even if he tries to play defense.

      also, the Heat were the #1 shooting team last season in FG% and they are again the #1 team in FG shooting percentage.

      Melo is a bad shooter. He’s below 200th place on the all time true shooting percentage leaders in the NBA whereas LBJ, D Wade and Bosh are ALL much better.

      Lebron is 52nd currently
      Bosh is 68th currently
      D Wade is 79th currently

      and ALL the way down in 202nd place is where Melo resides on the all time true shooting percentage in the NBA.

      So, he can’t play defense and his shot is, well, uh… glad there are stats to back up what I’m saying so it isn’t just my words…

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ts_pct_career.html

      • moseskkim - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM

        There’s a reason lebron wade boshs percentages all went up when they came together. They take pressure off of each other. Sure they were efficient before but they are ultra now because of that. Who takes pressure off of melo? Jr smith? Amare? Felton? That’s as unfair a comparison as I have ever seen to compare the big 3 fg percentages and melo

      • cruzan80 - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM

        Dumb comparison. Paul Pierce’s #’s were almost identical to Melo’s….until Ray Allen & Kevin Garnett showed up. Hence Melo’s point about the big three in Miami. And the whole “he can’t play defense” nonsense just proves that you’ve probably watched about two Knick games over the past two seasons.

      • sportsfan18 - Dec 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM

        Well, Melo’s shooting numbers have really never been that good overall.

        LeBron’s shooting percentage had gone UP for the three consecutive years BEFORE he joined the Heat.

        LeBron’s numbers were improving because he was improving as a player. LeBron’s three seasons before joining the Heat were better than the best three seasons of Melo’s shooting.

        So it is not a dumb comparison to say that LeBron, D Wade and Bosh got better because they came together.

        Chris Bosh shot .518% from the field the season before coming to the Heat and then shot .496% and then .487% from the field his first two seasons with the Heat.

        Yes, he shot better last season and is doing well this year but it was NOT like he improved just because he was playing with D Wade and LBJ as his shooting went down the first two seasons he played with them.

        AND, Bosh’s true shooting percentages for EACH of the FIVE seasons before he joined the Heat were better than his true shooting percentages his first two seasons with the Heat.

        So again, you’re saying he shot better because he’s now playing with D Wade and LBJ?

        Yes, last season and so far this season, he’s doing better but you can’t discount his first two full seasons with the Heat when he shot worse than he had for the five years before playing with them.

        LBJ’s first season with the Heat, his true shooting percentage was LOWER than it was during his last season in Cleveland. LBJ’s 2nd season with the Heat, it was .605% and his last season with Cleveland it was .604%.

        So in LBJ’s first two seasons with the Heat, he did NOT shoot better even though he was playing with D Wade and Bosh.

        My point was that overall, Melo doesn’t shoot nearly as well as any of the stars in the game. His overall shooting is very low compared to so many (well, over 200 players that is).

        I mean MJ, Bird, Durant, Magic, LeBron, D Wade, Bosh, Nowitzki, Chris Paul and the list goes on and on.

        I mean one doesn’t have to like the way I’m saying it, but the fact is that Melo doesn’t shoot well overall as evidenced, you know, by HIS numbers shooting the ball as compared to his contemporaries in the game as well as compared with other stars, max level players, top 10 players in the game now and in years gone by.

        It’s simple math fellas whether you like what the figures show or not.

      • sportsfan18 - Dec 22, 2013 at 4:56 PM

        cruzan

        There ARE stats for defensive ratings you know. Basketball reference dot com lists the 250 best in the NBA of all time in terms of defensive rating.

        But, not surprisingly, Melo’s name won’t be found on this list because he is way worse than the top 250.

        You WILL find players such as the following on this list.

        Kevin Garnett
        Dr. J
        Bobby Jones
        Jermaine O’neal
        Shawn Kemp
        Dennis Rodman
        Chris Webber
        Rasheed Wallace
        Kenyon Martin
        Larry Bird
        Magic Johson
        Scottie Pippen
        LeBron James

        Oh, the players above are ALL in the TOP 100. I haven’t even begun to look at numbers 100 through 250 who are all still well ABOVE Melo and his matador defense.

        I’m sure you won’t take a look, but here’s the link (just so you don’t have to take my word for it).

        http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/def_rtg_career.html

      • sportsfan18 - Dec 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM

        cruzan

        I’m in the holiday spirit, so to save you some time, here are some of the other players between 100 and 250 in defensive ratings.

        MJ
        Durant
        Kobe
        Chris Paul
        Paul Pierce
        Josh Smith
        D Wade
        Metta World Peace
        Luol Deng
        Dirk Nowitzki
        Tracy McGrady
        Paul Millsap
        Tony Parker
        Drew Gooden
        Carlos Boozer
        Shane Battier
        David West

        And many others.

        So when looking at actual stats, one is able to see that Melo is well down both the true shooting percentage leaders in the NBA and in defensive ratings too.

        He is certainly nowhere near folks like MJ, LBJ, Durant, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Bird or any other stars you want to mention or include.

        Melo IS very good, but he is overrated. He will make the hall of fame, but he is a couple of rungs below the all time greats in the game.

      • cruzan80 - Dec 22, 2013 at 6:27 PM

        “Sportsfan”, if your gonna compare Melo to LBJ there is pretty much no scenario in which Melo “wins”. LBJ, after all is he best player in the entire league. Nothing you said about what LBJ has done in his career vs Melo’s is incorrect. But lets try doing something that your obviously totally against here…a FAIR comparison.

        Like I mentioned in an earlier post, Paul Pierce…a player who’s #’s throughout his career were very similar to Melo’s completely throws your point out the window. Pierce’s TS% (since apparently that’s the only stat that matters) was .571 in the 2006-2007 season. In the 2007-2008 season (the first full season of the original big 3) his TS% magically went to .599…the highest of his entire career….wow….shocking isn’t it??? Meanwhile, Kevin Garnett’s TS% was .546 in 06-07. In the 2007-2008 season another miracle happened…it went to .588…..crazy right???

        My point is at the end of the day all this garbage about true shooting percentage doesn’t mean squat if you don’t have very good players on the same team. Garnett has maintained a pretty good TS% throughout his entire career yet he had the same number of trips out the 1st round as Melo did before he joined Pierce & Allen. KG knew this. That’s why he didn’t want to go to Boston to join just Pierce….he didn’t even agree to the trade (using his no trade clause) until Ray Allen was sent there first. Melo needs better players around him….like all great players do if they want to contend for a title. It’s really just that simple. Every time a “genius” like you flood these threads with a ton of pointless stats in an attempt to basically say “I hate Melo” I ask the same questions (which never gets answered). How many titles did Kobe win without Shaq & Pau? How many finals did Pierce go to before KG & Allen?? How many rings did Wade have without Shaq, LBJ & Bosh??? Find me link that says the answer is something other than ZERO & I’ll jump on board buddy.

        BTW, I did take a look at that link. I did indeed notice that Melo wasn’t on the list of over 150 players. I also noticed that half of those players played in the 1960’s. I also got a good chuckle seeing the names of defensive stalwarts Keith Van Horn & Amare Stoudamire making the cut as well….good job homie.

      • sportsfan18 - Dec 22, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        cruzan

        No, I was NOT comparing Melo to only LeBron.

        I WAS comparing him to 250 or more OTHER players in true shooting percentage and in defensive ratings.

        AND Mr. Cruzan, DID you notice that LeBron’s true shooting percentage went DOWN his first season with the others?

        Did you notice that Chris Bosh’s FG% went down his first two season’s with the Heat from his last FG% before joining them?

        Bosh’s true shooting percentage was higher each of the five seasons BEFORE he joined the Heat than it was his first two seasons with the Heat.

        YET, you keep mentioning Pierce and saying how he got better with other good players around him.

        You said of course LBJ, D Wade and Bosh did better with each other, but the FACTS are that LBJ’s true shooting percentage went down and Bosh’s FG% and true shooting percentage went down his first two yrs with the Heat.

        And yes, I do like true shooting percentage as it combines 2 pt shots, 3 pt shots and free throws and it adjusts for the fact that a 3 pt shot is worth more points.

        It INCLUDES free throws as getting to the line and drawing fouls is important too.

        Basically, it covers everything about one’s shooting ability.

        But your point of the Heat players doing better because they joined up doesn’t hold water if you actually go and check the facts about them instead of Paul Pierce.

      • sportsfan18 - Dec 22, 2013 at 6:55 PM

        cruzan

        glad you liked those defensive stalwarts on the list.

        That just let’s you know how poorly Melo plays defense that he can’t beat those defensive wizards.

        Yes, the list has older players as it’s a list of ALL TIME NBA defensive ratings.

        Funny how so many of Melo’s contemporaries ARE on the list though.

        Even Carlos Boozer is up there and well ahead of Melo.

        It WAS you who dissed me about Melo’s defense.

        Melo’s lack of defense has been talked about by many, written about by many and is known to be a fact to those who watch him as well as to the defensive ratings too.

      • cruzan80 - Dec 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM

        “Sportsfan” I never made any point about the Heat being better when they got together. I said your comparison of Melo vs the Heat was dumb & used YOUR resources (TS %) but with a more fair comparison (Paul Pierce) to prove to you why it was a dumb comparison. But like I also said in an earlier post…being fair is clearly not your motive here….hence the reason why I guess you had no actual response to all the FACTS I pointed out to you about KG & Pierce….not surprising since it debunks your whole argument. We can use numbers to favour whatever point we want as I just proved. My only point is that all players benefit when they play with better talent around them…period.

        And I still haven’t gotten that link I’ve been looking for……..lol!

      • kingtotz - Dec 23, 2013 at 1:16 AM

        sportsfan18:

        wow! melo is so bad at D even hedo turkoglu is better than him at DRtg.. just wow! LOL!

      • 4thehaters - Dec 23, 2013 at 1:58 AM

        How many players in the NBA play defense anyways? This isn’t the 90’s anymore
        Melo is a bad shooter? What do you classify a bad shooter? Who else on the Knicks can create their own shot off the dribble, take someone 1 on 1, take the big shot, can post you, drive past you, and shoot the ball from the perimeter, and is your best rebounder outside of Chandler? Name someone? Did you know that Melo ranks #1 all time in NBA game winning shots at 41%?

        Melo is a pure scorer. That’s what he does. That’s how he was in high school and that’s how he was at syracuse. Everyone knew that. Melo is a better scorer than Wade and Bosh, regardless of fg%, because that is what he does. How about yourself. Let’s suit you up and see you guard Melo? Let’s see you shut him down, and score 2 points on him, that’s even if the coach feels your good enough to be on the floor

  3. footballer4ever - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    “I’m not saying I want to go somewhere else,” Anthony told Rashad. ”

    Of course not, Carmelo. Besides, being smart is overated and it only gives you a better chance to win championships. You are not just saying it, you are just waiting for the right time to noe be SMART about it and move to the heat too.

  4. misterdreamer119 - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Hes leaving. Go to the Celtics team up with Rondo and another All Star.

    • jcmeyer10 - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM

      As a Celts fan who lived in Boulder during the worst of the Melo/JR Smith years, I do not know how I would feel having Melo on my team.

      Great skillset but would he buy into Stevens’ system. Me not convinced.

    • nikestreak10 - Dec 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM

      I was thinking the same thing. Trade some of those 1st round picks for him, along with one of those larger contracts. Let him get a taste of playing in Stevens system with a real point guard. And convince him to stay in boston next summer.

  5. norcalkingsfan - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Is smart a synonym for heartless? If so, then yes, I would, for once, agree with you melo.

  6. prareedoggin - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Nice knowledgable post Sportsfan 18. I think that in the right system and having Lebron and Wade setting him up for better shots may bump him into top 125 lol

  7. seattlenative57 - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    There’s another choice not mentioned: Melo stays in NYC and attracts one or two elite free agents to play with him.

    We know this won’t happen because, truthfully, most elite players today lack respect for his game and leadership, or lack thereof. The most laughable part to this Melodrama is/was the Knicks failing to build around him 3-years ago and expecting things to work out. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

    • mackcarrington - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:44 PM

      You may have missed this fact that was buried in the story:
      The Knicks don’t have any cap room to sign any elite free agents.

    • dmenace83 - Dec 23, 2013 at 1:08 PM

      Where’d you get the idea that most elite players don’t have respect for his game? Last I checked, Kobe said Melo was one of the toughest players he defended against.

  8. caeser12 - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Panic?

    I’ve been a Knicks fan since 1967, if Melo wants to leave, please, leave.

    As long as Dolan is the Owner, nothing changes at the Billion Dollar Comedy Club, formerly known as Madison Square Garden.

    Go NY.

    • jimeejohnson - Dec 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM

      Go to Miami. See what happens.

  9. gquesen - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Norcalkingsfan,

    Heartless? Really you’re still hanging onto that narrative? If they’re heartless anyone who went to the Lakers/Celtics/Bulls back in the day is heartless. Kareem? No heart. Worthy? No heart. Bill Walton? No heart. Dennis Rodman? No heart. I mean seriously, what a joke. You’ll notice the Heat didn’t just blow through the league every year like the haters feared. They were five seconds away from losing two finals in three tries. Get over it. And this is coming from small market Blazer fan. Sheesh.

    • tcclark - Dec 22, 2013 at 7:24 PM

      Kareem? Traded
      Worthy? Drafted
      Bill Walton? Traded at the end of his career to be a backup
      Dennis Rodman? Traded

      If you’re going to give examples, at least give examples of guys leaving their team via free agency in their prime to team up for some championships.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 22, 2013 at 10:17 PM

        I’m guessing your alluding to LeBron, so at least be accurate. LeBron (and Bosh) were both traded. Cle & Tor each got multiple 1st round picks from Miami in these deals.

        Ray Allen? He came on his own free will. Think he’s heartless?

      • tcclark - Dec 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM

        c’mon. Traded via a sign and trade to get the extra year on the contract is not the same thing. The only reason they were traded was for the extra year on their contracts. They essentially left via free agency. Don’t act like Lebron wanted to stay in Cleveland but they traded him to the Heat for a couple of late first rounders.

        And while Ray Allen is a completely different situation considering his age and his diminishing role, leaving your team to go to the enemy for half the money is a little heartless…. and this is coming from a Ray Allen fan.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 22, 2013 at 10:54 PM

        And take a look at what the Lakers gave up for Jabbar and what they gave up for the draft pick that became Worthy. It’s hard to argue that the Cavs & Raptors didn’t get as much or even more than the Bucks and Cavs got in their day. Heck, after the Worthy trade, the league enacted a rule called “the Stepian Rule” to protect future suckers like then Cavs owner Ted Stepian.

      • tcclark - Dec 22, 2013 at 10:59 PM

        Those were actually legit trades though. Whether they got a good deal in hindsight is beside the point. What the Raptors and Cavs got were consolation prizes. It’s not like they went out and decided to trade their star players to the Heat for a couple of late first rounders. They had no choice. LeBron and Bosh were going to Miami regardless of how Toronto or Cleveland felt about it. If they didn’t trade them, they would have just signed as free agents

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 23, 2013 at 7:49 AM

        By your reasoning Carmelo wasn’t legitimately traded either. Denver knew he was gone and they knew he was gone to New York. They had no choice but to trade him, and NY was holding the gun. Who knew they’d actually get the better end of the deal though.

        Look, a trade’s a trade. Miami gave up a half decade of valuable assets for Bosh & James. Just because it worked out so well for Miami doesn’t diminish the trades’ legitimacy.

      • tcclark - Jan 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM

        You know that’s not the same thing. You’re taking things that are semi-similar to help justify your argument, but you know deep down that it’s not the same thing.

        The Knicks would have never been able to sign Carmelo had the Nuggets not traded him there. He wasn’t going to sign with the Knicks had the Nuggets not traded him, and frankly, the Nuggets could have ridden out the rest of the year, tried to win a championship, and could have signed him in free agency. Carmelo tried to strong arm his way onto the Knicks and the Nuggets obliged.

        They also got right around market value for him. You can’t say the same about the Cavs and the Raptors. Lebron and Bosh signed contracts that were negotiated by their agents and the Miami Heat. They only “signed” with their previous teams so they could get the extra year. The Extra year is really what was traded.

        And if you really want to be technical, Lebron and Bosh weren’t “traded.” They changed teams via “sign-and-trade.” Official NBA trades can’t be completed with signed free agents until the middle of December. However, teams can complete a sign-and-trade which is a completely different transaction. So while guys like Kareem and Melo were “traded,” Bosh and Lebron changed teams via sign-and-trade agreement, which according the the current and former CBA is a type of contract not a type of trade.

  10. jackweho - Dec 22, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    As I have said ad nauseam, Melo is all about Melo. As long as he is the show piece he is happy. Rings, trophies…he could care less, unless they are the scoring or MVP-once again, all about him. Denver a lot better team without him; I don’t think the Knicks will change with or without him. Too many injury-prone and under-achieving players, and no draft choices until the next ice age. The only teams that would consider trading with them would be the ones wanting to unload their own albatross players. Maybe the Lakers-Jimmy, son of Jerry Buss, is dumb enough to do anything that seems to fit the moment. With Kobe hurt, it couldn’t hurt the Knicks to try and un-load Melo. Can you imagine those two ball hogs on the same team? No one else would ever touch the ball over half court.

  11. stephenolszewski - Dec 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Knicks need a full blown rebuild, thats no quick fix unfortunately

  12. bealwithit - Dec 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    The Suns have a bunch of picks in a loaded draft and said they are looking for a “star”.

    Trade Carmelo for draft picks and young prospects and rebuild the right way.

    • 4thehaters - Dec 23, 2013 at 2:08 AM

      They wont trade Melo. Melo sells tickets, filling those seats . The last time the Knicks sold this many tickets was when Ewing was playing.

  13. fnf417 - Dec 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    To bad they won’t 3 peat

    • detectivejimmymcnulty - Dec 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM

      And if they don’t I imagine you’ll be one of those who call them “failures” and “chokers.”

      • elcapitanfiscal - Dec 23, 2013 at 12:52 AM

        He’ll be like “look, Miami only one twice out if the four straight finals they where in”

  14. ddpenny - Dec 22, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    i dont see why knicks fans panic. theyre still 4 spots behind the 8th seed on the east. do we really think charlotte boston or washton or even detroit will make the playoffs this year? we’re still more or less 1/3 of the season. yes theyre losing but still theyre on spot on making the playoffs.

  15. tcclark - Dec 22, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Since when did Carmelo become our barometer of what is smart and what isn’t?

  16. helpingverbs - Dec 22, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    The Player’s are competing with the GM’s now for power. If a few guys want to get together and join a certain team they can get it done.

  17. longtallsam - Dec 22, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Players like Lebron & KG make the other players around them better. Melo has NEVER done that!

    • 4thehaters - Dec 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM

      KG makes everyone around him better? Hmmm, how did that work in Minnesota? How about New Jersey? It wasn’t KG that made everyone around him better in Boston either. You can thank Rajon Rondo for that.

      Melo is a pure scorer. He’s always been that way. He was that way in high school and college. It’s no different from then vs now. The reason everyone rips Melo is because it’s safe to do so, because he doesn’t have a championship. Everyone did the same thing with Lebron, but they shut their mouths when Lebron got his

  18. raycharlesj - Dec 22, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Hard to believe Melo is 3 almost 4 years!! slow in figuring out Wade, Bosh, and Lebron were smart in teaming up??? Even harder to believe it took almost 4 years before some reporter thought to ask him what he felt about it!!! J

    • 4thehaters - Dec 23, 2013 at 2:06 AM

      He was never asked about it until now. What’s the big deal?

  19. airjackie - Dec 22, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Youth and the love of the game has been a norm for black ball players until Magic Johnson saw the famous players leave the game with nothing. What to do? Well make your contract fit your future and assure your compensated for the millions you brought the owner over the years of your youth. Carmelo did not listen and was to full of himself. The wake up call for the Knicks was Jeremy Lin. LeBron learned to go to those older successful players and the younger group coming out of College are going to be smart. At some point in the near future we will see major minority owners. Carmelo is out of time and his price has dropped with failure and age.

  20. gmailfan57 - Dec 23, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    Melo leaving New York is the best thing that could happen to the Knicks. It would be nice to see a New York team build a sound foundation through the draft instead of looking for the latest messiah to save them. Of course this is a Dolan Joint so who the hell am I kidding? I have absolutely no respect for pikers who look to glom onto teams that are already on the verge of a championship. Especially LeBron whose own team (the Cavaliers) were just a step or two away (I’m keep hearing refrains of that Kanye West song: Gold Digger). Carmelo has the worse shot selection of any so called superstar in the NBA. I’m sure he’ll tell you he has to because he’s the only offensive option. A true superstar makes his teammates better. I don’t think anyone has ever accused Mr. Anthony of doing that. Happy trails Carmelo.

  21. 4thehaters - Dec 23, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    Funny how everyone here points out Melo’s defense. Last time i checked, this ain’t the 90’s where it was all about defense .This is the new generation where players are all about how many points they can score.
    Heck, how many players in the NBA actually play defense. We have more scorers now than the 90’s ever did, but the 90’s was the dominant defensive era, where they had more lock defenders than we have pure scorers

    • casualcommenter - Dec 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM

      “Heck, how many players in the NBA actually play defense. ”

      Um, how about the Pacers and the Heat?

      In case you haven’t heard of them, they’re the best two Eastern Conference teams this season.
      Also, they’re the teams that have knocked Melo out of the playoffs the past 2 years (Heat in 2012, Pacers in 2013).

      So start with them and then read about other good defensive teams like the Chicago Bulls.

  22. beach305 - Dec 23, 2013 at 2:08 AM

    I think you are going to see more stars in the future wait to become free agents rather than force a trade. Dwight learned the hard way.

  23. aldavis4president - Dec 23, 2013 at 3:09 AM

    Amare stoudamire was the biggest mistake they made. He was alrdy beat, and his skills were diminishing. I think anytime you got a legit center like Tyson chandler and a legit scorer like melo you always have a chance. They almost have zero chance to make this right as at this point, unless they find someone to take amare s contract. I’m a huge melo fan and just wish he gets outta this mess. Take back avid lees(avid Lee bcuz he has no D!) huge contract from us and well take stoudamire off the bench and give our young studs curry Thompson Barnes green some real run!

  24. bougin89 - Dec 23, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Was it smart for them to team up? Yeah you can clearly make a point about it being smart(for themselves) as they’ve won two rings. Was/is it good for the competitive balance of the league? I would say no.

    • shanydawg - Dec 23, 2013 at 10:41 AM

      2 series of last year’s Heat playoffs went to 7 games? Sounds pretty competitive to me. And it was GOOD basketball. EVERY team is doing it Bougin – only BADLY! Brooklyn, the Knicks, Lakers, Rockets, HUGE names changed teams during the last off season. So what’s he difference?… it’s that the Heat do it well with the right mixture of players and coaches. The Knicks pretty much just signed anyone who’s name was recognizable – the Nets forgot that you need an actual coach – the Rockets built their team around a little bitch at center – the Lakers are being held hostage by their diva – the Bulls come and go with 1 players (mis)fortunes… so don’t blame the Heat just because they’re doing it better than anyone else. What their success – and the other failed experiments mentioned above have shown us is that it takes a LOT more than just throwing a bunch of top line players together to build a champion.

      • bougin89 - Jan 27, 2014 at 8:41 AM

        My point, which I’ve previously discussed with Anti, is that the players planned this for years. Much different than other teams situations(like the ones you mentioned).

        Every team tries to improve through trades/free agency. Usually multiple elite players don’t have a plan(for years ahead of time) to all go to one team, that’s never been done before.

  25. shanydawg - Dec 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    “They were smart,” Anthony told NBA TV… YA’ THINK?

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