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Report: Bulls, Sixers lead in Dion Waiters trade talks, he wants Philly

Dec 17, 2013, 5:04 PM EDT

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It’s been known for a while the Cavaliers have been testing the trade market for Dion Waiters. We told you last week that there was buzz the Sixers could look to move Evan Turner — he leads them in scoring and as a free agent this summer could draw a bigger contract than they want to pay or think he’s worth.

As part of that report the anonymous source suggested the Sixers should target Dion Waiters.

Well, maybe the source of that was Waiters’ camp. Check out this latest report from Jared Zwerling of Bleacher Report.

It’s no secret that the Cleveland Cavaliers have been shopping second-year shooting guard Dion Waiters, and the latest update, according to two sources who spoke with Bleacher Report, is that the Chicago Bulls and Philadelphia 76ers have emerged as the top two suitors. And both are realistic destinations based on trade assets and financial complements.

According to a source close to Waiters, he “wants out” of Cleveland and “prefers to go to Philly because he thinks he’d be the best player on the team. That’s his mindset.”

Remember this over the next couple months as trade rumors run wild: Most published trade rumors come from agents. Said agents aren’t going to leak things to the media for fun — they have an agenda. Get their client more money, get him to a spot he wants to be, ideally both.

Waiters in a backcourt with Michael Carter-Williams doesn’t make the Sixers better, but that’s not the short-term goal in Philly. Do the Sixers want to see how a guy who can’t get along with Kyrie Irving gets along with their new star rookie? That said, Waiters is more affordable than Turner. Right now the Bulls will take a guy who can handle the ball and shoot.

I wouldn’t expect this Turner/Waiters swap to go down (is that really a smart move for Cleveland?), but clearly both of these guys are going to show up in a lot of trade rumors in the next couple of months. Just think about who would benefit from the rumor being leaked.

  1. dadeyemi - Dec 17, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    I don’t think Philly is worrying about how well MCW and Waiters will get a long since they were teammates at Syracuse just 2 years ago

    • spursareold - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

      So? Kyrie and Waiters are teammmates now. and they don’t get along. Waiters thinks he’s better than MCW by his statements about his desire to go there and “be the best player on the team”. That’s a pretty bad chemistry start.

      • biasedhomer - Dec 17, 2013 at 7:12 PM

        Waiters never made any statements. There are rumors of the above mentioned statements.

      • antistratfordian - Dec 17, 2013 at 7:58 PM

        Kyrie doesn’t pass enough. Carter-Williams likes to dish. That’s all Waiters is asking for in a PG.

  2. ljl2 - Dec 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    I’m sure what the Cavs want to do is trade away the guy that has shown he cares the most on the court this year. Especially, after constantly working to kill rumors two weeks ago. Also, the basketball analysis in that article is just awful. Not to mention it is bleacher report… not really known for credibility.

    Ignoring that stuff, Evan Turner would be an awful fit on the Cavs…

  3. philadelphiafan - Dec 17, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Trade Turner to OKC for Jeremy Lamb or try your hardest to squeeze a 1st rounder out of any team desperate for scoring. I’m not sold on Waiters by any means. I would definitely move him before the deadline or else the Sixers might get trapped in NBA purgatory offering another Iggy-like contract. I can’t see Sam Hinkie being that foolish though.

    • sylpkt - Dec 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM

      On behalf of the OKC fanbase….”Hell, the f….k, NO!”

  4. thomaskouns - Dec 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Waiters doesn’t have the numbers or clout to be picky.

    • antistratfordian - Dec 17, 2013 at 8:00 PM

      He’s a 4th overall pick in his 2nd year – that’s all the clout he needs, really. GM’s are thinking about his potential, not his current numbers.

  5. timberwolvesbrisin - Dec 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    “Do the Sixers want to see how a guy who can’t get along with Kyrie Irving gets along with their new star rookie?”

    Krie and MCW are completely differant people. Kyrie isnt a good teammate, MCW is a geat guy. No that Walters is some great teammate, but your comment is short-sighted.

    • watdoiknow - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM

      ” Kyrie isnt a good teammate”

      Source??

      • ljl2 - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

        watching him freeze guys out of the offense so he can go into iso, hero ball is a pretty good sign…

  6. jamesk2465 - Dec 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    I don’t believe it esp it coming from a BR source.

  7. jeffkx - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Have to agree. He was on the radio here in Cleveland and literally said nothing different/more than what we have been hearing for 3 to 4 weeks.

    http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2013/12/17/jared-zwerling-says-waiters-wants-a-trade-views-himself-as-a-go-to-player-in-this-league/

  8. ljl2 - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    For what its worth, Dion has repeated to the Plain Dealer that he wants to be in Cleveland and has not asked to be traded. Just like he did about 3 weeks ago…

    • ljl2 - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:23 PM

      Not just plain dealer but Akron Beacon Journal and multiple blogs…

      • jeffkx - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:29 PM

        Lake County News-Herald too.

        Bob Finnan ‏@BobCavsinsider 7m

        #Cavs guard Dion Waiters said he will play tonight vs. Portland and that he doesn’t want to be traded.

      • ljl2 - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM

        In regards to what jeffkx said, here is a video link that Bob Finnan posted

        http://www.tout.com/m/je7nk5

    • antistratfordian - Dec 17, 2013 at 8:04 PM

      That’s not worth much. Why would he say anything else publicly?

  9. olddb - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Should be mentioned that he was born in Philly…

  10. rjmarrella - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    I don’t know a lot about waiters game, but I always took it to be that he was a volume scorer. I just don’t see how that helps either the bulls or the Sixers. Specifically with the Sixers, I think that bringing on a volume scorer can only hurt the team.

    • ljl2 - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:40 PM

      He’s not a volume shooter. He’s a streaky shooter though. He’s learning what are efficient shots and what aren’t. His game has progressively gotten better in the 1.25 seasons he’s played.

    • antistratfordian - Dec 17, 2013 at 8:05 PM

      You can’t see how he’d help out the Bulls? Watch them some time.

  11. drago2012 - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Neither on of these guys is anywhere close to being the solution for the Bulls. They just signed Augustin last week and he is doing better then any of these two clowns.

  12. Eric Chase. - Dec 17, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    He’s also from 215

    • somekat - Dec 17, 2013 at 9:36 PM

      This is why he wants to come to Philly. It’s his home team

      That being said, I have no interest in him, don’t really like his game, and he’s not good enough to “want to be the best player on his team”. If he thinks he is, I have even less interest in him.

      The only reason I put any validity in this rumor is because if the Sixers are going to make a move that doesn’t bring in draft picks, Waiters is the type of guy they would bring in (young, lots of upside, doesn’t make them much better right now though), as opposed to Asik, which would make no sense. Maybe putting him on the Sixers, as one of the best players, under a coach that has total authority, would be the best thing for him. I wouldn’t want to take that bet.

      But worst case scenario you are worse this year (good thing), bury him on the bench next year, and let him walk when his contract is up if you can’t dump him somewhere else. I wouldn’t be heartbroken if this went down. But I’d rather a pick for Turner/Hawes/Young

  13. stephenolszewski - Dec 17, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Waiters has progressed quite a bit, he went from being a Iso player, and this year he’s progressed on his jumper and moving without the ball his passing has also gotten better you can still tell he feels it’s his team though at times or that it should be

  14. birdzflyinhigh - Dec 17, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    No reason for Philly to do anything right now, the trade deadline is not until February 20th! Attrition will take it’s toll and guys will get hurt meaning more teams will be wanting to make a trade. The sixers will be in position to get a nice haul for turner/hawes/thad and probably better than dion waiters.

  15. psubeerman21 - Dec 18, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    If you can’t get a 1st for Turner (and they would know by now if they could), then do this deal. He’s young and the money is right. You could always flip him next year for something else, especially if he plays well.

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