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NFL legend Jim Brown takes shot at Kobe Bryant, Kobe fires back

Dec 12, 2013, 1:25 PM EDT

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We present this to you with very little commentary on our part.

Jim Brown is an NFL legend and an outspoken man about the African American community and how it fits in with overall American society. Brown was on the Arsenio Hall Show on Tuesday night and was asked to comment about Kobe Bryant’s return to the NBA.

In case you didn’t bother with the video, Brown praised Kobe the athlete but apparently isn’t fond of him as a person. Here’s the money quote (hat tip to The Sports Grid):

“He’s somewhat confused about our culture. Because he was brought up in another country…If I had to invite people to that [black athlete] summit all over,” Brown said, referring to a summit held in the early 70s regarding Muhammed Ali’s refusal to fight in the Vietnam War. “There’d be some athletes I wouldn’t call. He’d be one of them.”

Kobe Bryant spent a number of his formative years in Italy where his father was playing professional basketball.

Kobe fired back on twitter, taking a shot at Brown’s standing in the African-American community.

One of the main goals here at PBT is to bring you the news and stories people around the NBA that people are talking about — and people are talking about this.

Often with that news we throw in our opinion. Not so much here. What you think of Brown, Kobe and the social implications and ramifications of all this really speaks as much to your beliefs as what is being said. So I’ll pass just along the news.

106 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. cashtext4all.com - Dec 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    Sad to see 2 brothers going at each other’s throat. We need to unite.

    • nard100 - Dec 13, 2013 at 5:03 PM

      Thank you!. It’s sad that it seems to have come down to let’s see who can out-black the other? Both have a history of mistakes with women, however, Kobe makes a good point. How do you dismiss someone because they were initially raised in a foreign country. I grow weary of this I’m-blacker-that-you-are nonsense. It makes us look foolish. You don’t see white folks going on about who better represents their race do you? It was interesting how critical JB was of Trent Richardson when he was about to be fired from his cushy position with the Browns and then how quickly he changed his tune when the new regime gave him his old job back!

    • dinofrank60 - Dec 13, 2013 at 11:19 PM

      No, we need to get this stuff out in the open and discuss it. Despite what many think, the culture is not monolithic. Just because there are open disagreements does not mean that someone will come in and turn brother against brother, sister against sister. That’s healthy and it’s better foreverybody.

  2. stoptrippn - Dec 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Mr. Brown you had your time in the sun. Yes, it wasn’t a great time for cultural togetherness….but let these kids live their lives. Kobe got you back on the tweet

  3. mackcarrington - Dec 12, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Look at the hate that JIm Brown is getting now.
    Try to imagine that hatred times 100 45 years ago.
    All he is doing now is what he was doing then.
    Just voicing his opinion of the way he sees things.
    Nothing has really changed.

  4. lhollis74 - Dec 13, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    I’ll say one thing I’ve said for years, just because your old, doesn’t mean you’re wise. Really, wouldn’t a wiser man refrain from making a baseless statement about another man on a national tv show, that really serves NO purpose whatsoever?

    And as far as Kobe “rape” allegations go, get the facts first. They had sex, on a chair, she finished her work shift, there was semen from 3 different men in the panties she was wearing that day ( I felt bad that her dad had to listen to that bit of evidence).
    It’s my opinion that all was good with their sexual encounter until she called her friends to brag about it and I’m sure they immediately stated something like, “he’s a millionaire, that’s all you got?” Soon after came the “rape” allegation.

  5. mytthor - Dec 13, 2013 at 1:47 AM

    Why does Kobe have a responsibility to act a certain way, simply because of the color of his skin? It would be disingenuous to pretend to be this person he isn’t, just because that’s the role he’s been unknowingly elected to play by self-appointed authorities like Jim Brown.

    • 22yearsagotoday - Dec 14, 2013 at 8:04 PM

      He has no more responsibility to back social causes than any other top 1%er.

      • mytthor - Dec 16, 2013 at 2:35 AM

        Backing causes isn’t necessarily the same as doing it the way people think you should because of your race.

  6. rafaelbarnes - Dec 13, 2013 at 3:18 AM

    jim brown was considered a super n……..! when i first of him
    opportunities for blacks were and are still scrutinized and he showed everybody that black people were top notch competitors
    that’s pride and happiness instilled in black youths
    that’s family values he contributed to
    white kids liked him too
    he’s the greatest football player ever
    being an athlete myself i would have to go along with jim brown
    kobe’s good but that’s fame, personality and glitter and glitz
    i would have to go on jim brown’s side

  7. rams1999 - Dec 13, 2013 at 3:38 AM

    Don’t like either of them. And Jim Brown, I mean who cares wat he thinks?? Plus, id call him a racist cause he talks about it all the time. If it were a white guy saying this, he’d be tore up by media. So why are people afraid of calling Jim Brown a racist? Cmon same people who complain bout other races comments. Where u at? Especially the media? Such hypocrites.

  8. dinofrank60 - Dec 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    The issue is how much influence Jim Brown has with this generation of athletes. Brown would like a lot of influence, having them come to him as an elder statesman and he, dispensing wisdom as a mentor/godfather. As a result, his name and fame grows and that leads to… well, you see where that leads.

    But they don’t come to him and they don’t need him. Brown doesn’t like this and is commenting about it.

    Remember he said similar things about Jordan and Woods.
    Remember his beefs with OJ and Franco.
    Remember that silly thing with the Raiders.
    Remember his spat with Richard Pryor.

    If he called a summit today, he couldn’t get the big guns; he knows it.

    • 22yearsagotoday - Dec 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM

      Great comment.

  9. mikeharris317 - Dec 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Can you please ask the almighty Jim Brown and Big Al Sharpton to address the following issues in the black communtiy:
    the balck on black murders – especially in Chicago
    the lack of fathers in the black family
    the highest rate of back unemployent – especially for young black adults
    and why President Barrack Hussein has done absolutely nothing to advance the black people, and yet we vote for him in droves

    • jimgreen8c - Dec 14, 2013 at 1:11 PM

      Jim Brown was addressing those problems long before most people were.Check out his organization Ameri-can. The problems that you mention are the hallmark problems that Jim Brown’s organization has addressed for years. Sharpton is useless!

  10. jimgreen8c - Dec 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    He did throw Shaq under the bus.

  11. ProBasketballPundit - Dec 14, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    There is no such thing as a group of people. Anybody who discusses or judges “groups” of people is an idiot. As for these two, Kobe is clearly the individual whereas Jim Brown identifies himself with a group.

  12. 22yearsagotoday - Dec 14, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    Brown is politically outspoken while Kobe seems pretty apolitical, just like MJ, Magic, Bird, and so many others. I think Kobe’s got a pretty thin skin to worry about what Jim Brown thinks, anyway.

  13. mogogo1 - Dec 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Brown hits the nail on the head about Kobe being raised in a different country but then totally misses the reality of what that means. He isn’t going to be exactly like Jim Brown, or have the same frame of reference of people 40 years ago. And that’s not a bad thing. Ironic that rather than accept Kobe for who he is, Brown seems to think he needs to be converted into something else. (And this comes from a guy who really can’t much stand Kobe as a person…but nobody has the right to call him out on whether he’s portraying his race properly.)

  14. chalklounge - Dec 19, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Jim Brown seems like a very bitter man.

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