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Report: Mike Woodson’s seat in New York getting hot (but Jeff Van Gundy is not taking job)

Dec 3, 2013, 12:29 PM EDT

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With the Knicks tied for the worst record in the East, on a nine-game losing streak, with infighting starting to bubble to the surface, and an owner who thought this team would be a contender at the start of the season, you would expect coach Mike Woodson’s seat to be getting hot.

It is, reports Marc Berman at the New York Post.

The expiration date on owner James Dolan’s recent vote of confidence for coach Mike Woodson is approaching, according to sources.

While Woodson will coach the Knicks when they play the Nets on Thursday, it is unclear how much longer Dolan will allow this losing streak to go on. It has reached nine straight defeats and the team’s mental instability has become an issue. Dolan is obsessed with the Brooklyn franchise and a blowout loss could trigger changes — whether via trade or a coaching move.

That somebody leaked this to the Post suggests a shot across the bow of Woodson from ownership.

Woodson hasn’t been fired yet for a couple of reasons. One, this isn’t all his fault. I don’t love how he prepared the meal but he isn’t the guy who went shopping and bought this terrible mix of ingredients without thinking about how they go together. Look at it this way: New York’s front office compiled a team that requires a healthy Tyson Chandler to be competitive. That’s not smart and it’s not on the coach. Second, Dolan is a contrarian by nature. If people tell him to do one thing, he tends to want to do the opposite. People in New York want Woodson’s head, Dolan backs his man.

However Dolan is frustrated and unpredictable, so Woodson should be concerned. Dolan can’t fire the players and has already changed GMs, he sees a season like this making it harder to keep Carmelo Anthony, and Woodson is the next logical scapegoat.

Fire Woodson and you have another question: Who takes over as coach?

Here is what Berman wrote at the Post.

The Post has also learned that if Dolan eventually makes a move, old enemy and ex-Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy would not be ruled out as a future candidate — though such a hire seems more sensible in the offseason if Dolan goes with an interim coach.

Um… no. That’s not happening. Zero chance it happens midseason and little chance it happens in the offseason. As part of the always entertaining New York media infighting, Frank Isola shot down the JVG rumors quickly.

You know who the Knicks will go after as coach if Woodson is fired? Whoever Carmelo Anthony wants.

  1. mimaiheatdynasty - Dec 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Lionel Hollins, Jeff VG, Stan VG, longshot Phil Jackson. Not George Karl becuz he coached this same team in Denver and is overrated anyway.

    • azarkhan - Dec 3, 2013 at 1:41 PM

      Yeah, George Karl is overrated (how the heck did he win Coach of the Year anyway?). Besides, Karl already coached Carmelo Anthony in Denver. No need to go through that nightmare again.

      • fanofevilempire - Dec 3, 2013 at 2:40 PM

        Hey azz-can, go brush ya mouth, it smells like Karls sheet.

      • jcmeyer10 - Dec 3, 2013 at 5:10 PM

        Fan- I watched just about every Nuggets game for the last few years of the Karl/Anthony combo. I have never seen more down and out body language then when Karl had to try and convince Anthony to attempt defense.

    • fanofevilempire - Dec 3, 2013 at 2:42 PM

      I wonder if the new coach everyone is calling for will bring a starting point guard and center with him when he rides into MSG.

      • fanofevilempire - Dec 3, 2013 at 2:44 PM

        azzcan, how many titles does your boy toy Karl have, zero, zip, just like you he is a loser!

      • redbaronx - Dec 3, 2013 at 7:05 PM

        @fanofevilempire – You shouldn’t be calling anyone a loser. Lets analyze the stupidity of your comment to below to Azz where you called him a loser.

        1) George Karl has been to the Finals with Seattle. Do you even know how many current NBA coaches have even SEEN a trip to the Finals, let alone won?
        2) Had Seattle beaten the Bulls (that’s the Michael Jordan led Bulls) in ’96, not only would your comments seem more moronic then they are, they’d be downright hilarious. On second thought they’re already hilarious!
        3) George Karl is a first ballot Hall of Fame Coach. He’s # 10 on the all time win list.
        4) For you guys harping about Denver not reaching the Finals, it’s all easy for you to take pot shots, but once you’ve calmed down can you seriously tell me that Denver EVER had the talent to make a trip to the Finals when Carmelo and Nene are your two best players, one of which can’t play defense??? Didn’t think so!

        Go look up how many current NBA coaches have coached in the Finals. Then if you’re still not embarrassed by the stupidity of your comments, I gotta say there’s no hope for you! If your whole argument is that Karl won zero titles, then by that measure nearly every coach in the NBA who never won is a loser, including Jerry Sloan (another 1st ballot HOF coach). Go hide your head in a bucket!

    • redbaronx - Dec 3, 2013 at 7:16 PM

      @miamiheatdynasty – I know a lot of teams that would like a coach as overrated as Karl…..all he does is win with inferior talent (I’m looking at you Bucks and Denver with no Melo or Nene….)

  2. cnyphinfan - Dec 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    How about a coach that can teach how to play defense without switching everything?!?!?!?
    I am a die hard Knicks fan but I can’t watch it anymore. The offense just keeps running the same pick and roll play so their best offensive player can be switched on to a big man they can take off the dribble or to a smaller man they can take down in the post.
    It is ridiculous. Shumpert should be upset!
    FIGHT THROUGH A SCREEN! TRAP THE BALL HANDLER!!! DO SOMETHING!

  3. vi3tguy415 - Dec 3, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    “If people tell him to do one thing, he tends to want to do the opposite” HAHA. that’s my idol.

  4. csbanter - Dec 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    The Knicks need an All-Star point guard. An NCAA top prospect coming out, this is where their problems lie. Someone like Trey Burke would have been perfect for the Knicks. As long as they continue to plug the PG spot with “duds” like Felton, it won’t matter who coaches this team.

  5. bigzant82 - Dec 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    knicks needs too blow up the whole thing and clean house again trade everybody for draft picks if u can PRESS RESTART BUTTON

  6. jhalion - Dec 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Bring coach cal on board

    • fanofevilempire - Dec 3, 2013 at 2:53 PM

      yeah, he can just walk out on the Kentucky kids because he did GREAT job with the Nets.

  7. kdnyc0289 - Dec 3, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Like Isola said JVG wouldn’t do it without full control of the team, and I personally think that’d be the best thing that could happen to the Knicks.

  8. chargerdillon - Dec 3, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Dolan is like Jerry Jones. Everybody knows his hand is too deep in the cookie jar and consistently causes his team to rise to failure.

    Bottom line, it wouldn’t matter if Phil came back to coach that team, as long as Dolan calls the shots, they will be mediocre at best.

    Look at the Clippers, one of the most talented teams in the league. They go on to their best season ever and Sterling fires the coach. When ownership continually creates roadblocks to success you have exactly what’s happening in New York.

  9. jcmeyer10 - Dec 3, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    I am sorry but I can’t help but laugh at how fast this situation turned into a mess.

  10. pistolpete0903 - Dec 3, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Melo’s new ‘K’nick name: the coach killa!!!

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