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PBT Extra: When Kobe comes back what does he bring to Lakers?

Nov 20, 2013, 7:11 PM EST

It’s an all Los Angeles PBT Extra with Kay Adams and myself.

Of course, that means Kobe Bryant talk. That starts with when he comes back but moves on to what he brings when he does get back — it’s going to be gradual, but the Lakers’ offense is so off (25th in the league in points per possession so far) that his ability to make some shots and get to the foul line, even if diminished some, is welcome and needed.

We also talk a little Clippers/Thunder, which will be one of the highlights of Thursday night’s lineup. Odds are Matt Barnes and Serge Ibaka don’t get ejected this time.

  1. antistratfordian - Nov 20, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    “it’s going to be gradual, but the Lakers’ offense is so off (25th in the league in points per possession so far) that his ability to make some shots and get to the foul line, even if diminished some, is welcome and needed.”

    That about sums it up.

  2. thomaskouns - Nov 20, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    A lot of shot attempts – lead the league last year.

    Kobe pole-riders don’t want to admit it but he’s clearing gunning for the All-Time Scoring Title not wins but hey don’t believe me just read Phil’s book….

    • asimonetti88 - Nov 20, 2013 at 10:35 PM

      Which book? Have you read it? Are you talking about the part where he spoke about Kobe being a leader that teammates want to follow and imitate by becoming a less selfish player who gives up the ball more and lets go of anger?

      • antistratfordian - Nov 20, 2013 at 11:30 PM

        Are you talking about Eleven Rings? I wouldn’t go that far. He never said anything about “Kobe being a leader that teammates want to follow and imitate by becoming a less selfish player who gives up the ball more and lets go of anger” in Eleven Rings. Jackson wrote that Kobe’s primary leadership style for the majority of his career “usually backfired” and that later he started to improve in that regard. In comparing him to Jordan he said, “One of the biggest differences between the two stars from my perspective was Michael’s superior skills as a leader.”

        So the extent of his praise of Kobe’s leadership in his latest book is fairly minimal – Jackson said Kobe’s leadership “started to shift” in terms of embracing his team and opening up, but he never said he became a fantastic leader – and his praise mostly takes the form of one Luke Walton quote.

    • fanofevilempire - Nov 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM

      Kobe has 5ive Rings, wtf are you again?

  3. jgray30 - Nov 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Everyone including Kobe knows that won’t happen. he’d have to score at a very high rate for the next 5 or 6 yrs. So who cares what Phil wrote in his book.

    • thomaskouns - Nov 20, 2013 at 9:13 PM

      Jgray30, it depends on what team he plays for. He would drive attendance at some small market team where he could shoot at will.

      • tfyjman - Nov 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM

        Even if he does I believe Jgray30’s point was that it will probably take too long to break the record, especially given the amount of years he can feasibly remain in the league.

    • fanofevilempire - Nov 21, 2013 at 12:12 PM

      funny how Phil is always intrigued by coaching the Lakers, the team that Kobe plays for.

  4. jhop86 - Nov 21, 2013 at 7:49 AM

    What does kobe bring? A determination to win a leader a identity kobe can still ball even if he’s 30+ MJ could ball at 50 that’s what legends do

  5. valeb2012 - Nov 21, 2013 at 8:03 AM

    Kurt is just putting up clickbait articles. A couple of days ago, he penned a missive with the following headline:

    With Kobe’s return on horizon, so is shift in Lakers’ identity

    Saying, “They [Lakers] are just starting to find something resembling an identity now. They are up-tempo (fourth fastest in NBA) with solid shooters running to the arc. They move the ball well and defend better than people think (17th in the NBA). They are playing a D’Antoni style.”

    “There’s a sense around the Lakers that if they can stay around .500 (they are 5-7 right now) until they get Kobe back (and hopefully Steve Nash) then everything will work itself out.”

    “I’m skeptical it’s that simple.” End quote.

    Now Kurt is focusing on how mediocre the Lakers offense is and how much Kobe is needed.

    Kurt, what are you trying to say? Do the current Lakers x-Kobe have an identity worth maintaining? Or do they suck and need Kobe? Be clear. Otherwise you’re just linkbaiting and I’m going to stop visiting this site. Do the Lakers need Kobe OR is the ball moving right now and their identity worth keeping? If you’re saying Kobe’s return will change things, then you’re not saying anything at all. Duh. In which case, shh.

    • Kurt Helin - Nov 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

      I am able to have nuanced positions on things, where the world is not black and white but shades of gray. This seems to confuse some commenters.

      Kobe’s return will mean some short term bumps in the road but fairly quickly his presence on the offensive end will improve how poorly this team is playing there. Those two thoughts are not contradictory. Not sure it is all that hard to grasp.

  6. unxpexted1 - Nov 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    “The lakers dream of making the playoffs as an 8th seed and getting wiped out by the number 1″. I’m a laker fan but that was pretty funny. But unfortunately I do believe Kobe coming back makes us better than I want us to be, but not as good as I want us to be either. I can see the lakers record being right around what it was last year (dwight who?), but i think the west is more improved to where that record wont get us a 7th seed this year. 8th or 9th is about right.

  7. philyeagles5 - Nov 21, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Kobe doesn’t make his team better anymore. He makes them worse.

    • ranfan12 - Nov 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM

      Lol well he also gets them open when he drives and dishes it out to them. Which happened very often last season, except a shots were being missed, which means no points for the shooter, and no assist for kobe, even if it was a nice play lol.

    • fanofevilempire - Nov 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

      really, I think you are still mad about Bynum.

  8. ranfan12 - Nov 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    More free throws, more points, more double teams, that kind of stuff. Not anything new lol. Oh yeah, can’t forget more shots.

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