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Bulls’ Jimmy Butler out due to turf toe, not with team on six-game road trip

Nov 20, 2013, 2:20 PM EDT

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Chicago has finally started to find a groove — a five-game win streak where their defense has been the best in the NBA (85 points per 100 possessions) and their offense has been good enough (14th in the league in that time). It’s been very Bulls basketball.

Now, the basketball gods have thrown another hurdle in the Bulls way.

Starting two guard Jimmy Butler is out with a sprained right big toe — better known as turf toe — and not with the team as it heads out on a six-game road trip, the team announced after getting a look at the MRI results.

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Butler is a key part of the defensive glue for the Bulls but he contributes on both ends. So far this season he has averaged 11.2 points, 4.8 rebounds, 1.7 assists and 1.8 steals in 29.8 minutes a night.

With Butler out there will be a lot more Kirk Hinrich and Mike Dunleavy in the rotation, but that’s a healthy drop off.

  1. belleby123 - Nov 20, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Just out of curiosity, how far into the season is it that Thibs gets accused of playing his players “too many minutes”?

    • antistratfordian - Nov 20, 2013 at 3:13 PM

      That’s been taken out of Tommy’s hands – minutes are being dictated by his superiors. Luol Deng led the league in minutes per game the last two seasons but he’s well off that pace now.

      • belleby123 - Nov 21, 2013 at 7:52 AM

        Yes, and queerly, the only reason he couldn’t play was because he was in the hospital during the playoffs due to complications from a spinal tap. So that theory is crap. Oh, and D. Wade didn’t play again last night–what’s the theory on the bs?

      • antistratfordian - Nov 21, 2013 at 2:55 PM

        What theory is crap?

      • belleby123 - Nov 22, 2013 at 8:13 AM

        The theory of Thibs playing his players too many minutes and “causing injuries”. Is this going too fast for you?

      • antistratfordian - Nov 22, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        That’s not our problem. Thibs’ superiors don’t think its crap and that’s all that matters here.

      • belleby123 - Nov 23, 2013 at 8:19 AM

        Well, that’s wrong. The players and coaches get criticized, but most sports fans don’t have the mental capacity to criticize the front office. (Present company excluded–not.) John Paxson is nuts. Pat Riley is incredibly shrewd. Spoelstra is a decent coach, but he has talent on the team out the wazoo. Thibs doesn’t have this. Which team is winning the championships?

      • antistratfordian - Nov 23, 2013 at 5:08 PM

        Well it’s Reinsdorf’s prerogative. He’s always been overly cautious – but he’s the guy in their organization with the most money and the most championships so who is going to disagree with him?

        The situation with the Heat is rare – the relationship between Arison, Riley and Spoelstra has been developing for over 17 years now. Riley is the fulcrum being the guy with the most winning credentials. So Arison trusts Riley and Riley trusts Spo (having taken him under his wing and groomed him for the job), and everything works swimmingly.

      • belleby123 - Nov 23, 2013 at 6:14 PM

        Well that’s a load of crap. Everything works swimmingly as long as iron man/superman LeBron stays healthy. If he suffers a bad injury the Heat will be one of the most mediocre teams in the NBA. “Spo” won’t look too hot if that happens.

      • antistratfordian - Nov 23, 2013 at 6:29 PM

        But Spo has always been conservative with LeBron’s minutes – to the chagrin of fans. Spo has taken to not even playing the Big 3 in the 4th even if their lead is only 8 points. LeBron and Bosh haven’t played in the last 3 fourth quarters, and they were not all blowouts when they came out for the final time. So you couldn’t point a finger at Spo’s minutes distribution if LeBron were to get injured.

        Thibs, on the other hand, has never been conservative with minutes and his players have been getting injured left and right. Perhaps coincidental, but it’s happening together nonetheless. I can understand why Reinsdorf would err on the side of caution.

      • belleby123 - Nov 24, 2013 at 10:18 AM

        That’s another load o’ crap. Why not compare LeBron’s minutes with the other superstar on the team: D. Wade. Would it be double or triple? But I see you’re still clinging to the Thibodeau myth of “too many minutes”. Were Butler’s or Rose’s injuries because of this? And how come in the entire history of the NBA we’ve never heard of guys playing “too many minutes” before now? Hell, in the ABA guys played every minute of every game, and never explodede leaving a trail of entrails all over the floor. How is this possible?

      • antistratfordian - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:42 PM

        Hey, I’m not the guy who first raised the issue about Thibs overworking his starters. I think it initially came from Bulls fans and Chicago local media.

        In any case, LeBron was averaging over 40 minutes per game in Cleveland. He’s averaging 37.5 the last three years in Miami – this year he’s averaging 35.2. Wade has averaged 35.2 minutes per game since LeBron has been in Miami.

        LeBron, Wade and Bosh have all seen their minutes reduced under Spoelstra.

        And how come in the entire history of the NBA we’ve never heard of guys playing “too many minutes” before now?

        This is certainly not the first time, bud. How old are you? 12?

      • belleby123 - Nov 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM

        Sports fans are lemmings. Something gets said in the media at it gets repeated over and over and over again, whether it has any merit or not. Yeah, I’m 12 and you’re a mindless lemming. Want to try again?

      • antistratfordian - Nov 24, 2013 at 10:33 PM

        Sports fans and… Jerry Reinsdorf?

      • belleby123 - Nov 24, 2013 at 10:37 PM

        Sure. Look at what crap his other team has become: the Chicago White Sox. Reinsdorf is the reason Jordan left Chicago. That’s right up there with the Red Sox trading Babe Ruth to the Yankees. Any other questions?

      • antistratfordian - Nov 26, 2013 at 1:08 AM

        Well you’re complaining to the wrong guy. Here:

        Chicago, Illinois 60612-2459
        Telephone: 312.455.4000

      • belleby123 - Nov 26, 2013 at 3:16 PM

        Excellent ducking of the issue.

  2. anhdazman - Nov 20, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    I thought turf toe was a football injury. Basketball toe injuries are call bunions right?

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