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Report: Knicks could deal Shumpert because he’s only tradable asset

Nov 15, 2013, 7:55 PM EST

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The New York Knicks are 3-5 and things are so bad the dancers have stopped dancing (by the owners orders).

This is not what Knicks management (or fans) expected, but with Tyson Chandler out a month (at least) it’s hard to see how things take a serious turn for the better in the short term. Without him their interior defense and rim protection is lacking. 

Even with him, the problem is there is no easy way to fix this roster.

Which is why they may deal Iman Shumpert sooner rather than later, reports Marc Stein on ESPN (his new blog is a great read).

More and more folks around the league see some sort of Shumpert deal materializing sooner rather than later, given that he’s New York’s only real asset of value to make an in-season move and with the Knicks increasingly confident that they’ve got enough at the position to handle Shumpert’s exit now that J.R. Smith is back and with rookie Tim Hardaway Jr. looking good early.

Earlier this week there was some Kenneth Faried for Shumpert talk, but those rumors were all out of the New York side. The Nuggets want more in in a deal for Faried and the Knicks don’t have a first round pick until 2018 they can deal, so that fell through.

Stein mentions Sacramento as another possibility (not sure who heads back to New York in that deal), and there will be more. Shumpert has value as a young wing defender who can shoot the three (although he is off to a slow start this season, hitting 31.8 percent so far this season).

That said, I don’t know that there is one deal that can solve the Knicks issues. At least not to Dolan’s satisfaction. This is one oddly constructed roster.

Still it sounds like there is some smoke with a potential Shumpert trade with the fire not that far behind.

  1. ochospantalones - Nov 15, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Spencer Hawes?

  2. gbpxlvi - Nov 15, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Omer Asik

    • zoomy123 - Nov 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM

      Why would Houston take Iman Shumpert? Houston already has a glut of guards: Beverley, Harden and Lin.

      • nedped - Nov 16, 2013 at 2:28 AM

        Perimeter defense is why. If you follow the Rockets, you don’t need me to elaborate.

      • zoomy123 - Nov 16, 2013 at 7:50 PM

        They already have Beverley. And where would Shumpert fit in? Are they gonna play Lin and Shumpert off the bench? Plus they have Aaron Brooks. This means Houston would have: Beverley, Shumpert, Brooks, Harden and Lin. That’s 5 guards. Houston doesn’t need another guard they need a stretch 4.

      • moseskkim - Nov 16, 2013 at 10:51 AM

        How are 3 players a glut?

      • zoomy123 - Nov 16, 2013 at 7:59 PM

        Houston has 3 guards getting between 30-40 minutes a game. And the guy coming off the bench is getting $8 M a year and got beat out by someone who was playing in Russia a year ago. There’s only 96 minutes per game at the guard position. Harden is gonna eat up 40 of those minutes by himself. That leaves 56 minutes to be split between Beverley and Lin. If you add Shumpert are you going to split 56 minutes between 3 players?

  3. Mr. Wright 212 - Nov 15, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    He surely is the only one who can be traded, and he won’t realize his fullest potential while playing with Anthony.

    • jimeejohnson - Nov 16, 2013 at 4:22 PM

      You are right.

  4. knicksmets - Nov 15, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    I would want them to acquire a pick in the first round if this draft, so the Knicks can get a good player. Only reason I would want them to trade him is for picks

    • knightrider1755 - Nov 16, 2013 at 12:23 AM

      Stop dreaming. No team is going to give up a first round pick for Shumpert. He’s not that good.

  5. djstat - Nov 15, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Isaiah can fix it

    • mytthor - Nov 16, 2013 at 4:17 PM

      Isaiah Rider? Seems unlikely.

  6. somekat - Nov 16, 2013 at 3:54 AM

    Sixers will be trying to dump Turner and Young (Both arguably better players, with MUCH better contracts), plus Hawes, which will dampen any value they get for Shumpert. Hawes not as much, since he’s a big, but I dont’ see what team would want Shumpert before Turner at this point, considering they aren’t stuck with his contract after this year

  7. muhangis - Nov 16, 2013 at 6:31 AM

    This statement probably has little value, but.. I love Imam Shumpert. It is my belief that he’s terribly underrated. Being as young as he is (23) he is one of the more awesome point defenders in the league, and he can hit the 3 at a high %, as both were mentioned. Not mentioned tho is his elite quickness, high leaps and super athleticism, excellent passing skills, he’s the biggest hustler on the team, and extreme low turnover rate (the tops in the NBA for a guard.) It all leads to great efficiency and complimentary player (as a starter) for a team loaded w/ star players and scorers.

    His high character, low salary, and being a crowd favorite/pleaser doesn’t hurt either.

    Shumpert doesn’t receive his due credit due to his lack of high #’s and production for the time he’s earning on the court. But because of ball hogs like Anthony, Smith, and another scorer in Amare (during his career in N.Y.) the ball just doesn’t touch his hands much. Difficult to put up great quality numbers that way, but Shump (especially for his young age) has maxed out.

    Basically, he’s worth more than he seems. Stats don’t tell Shump’s whole story.

    • jimeejohnson - Nov 16, 2013 at 4:23 PM

      I miss his old hairstyle.

    • mytthor - Nov 16, 2013 at 4:42 PM

      He’s overrated simply because he plays in New York.

      There’s nothing especially efficient about his game. He doesn’t turn the ball over because his usage rate is 2nd lowest in the league for guards – 13.0, meaning only 13% of the time he’s on the floor does the possession end with a shot, assist, or turnover for him. Basically, he’s standing around off the ball. He’s an average 3-point shooter and free throw shooter, and a bad 2-point shooter (career high 40.1%) which works to a very ordinary True Shooting Percentage.

      He fouls too much and his bad 2-point shooting are both indicative of reduced athleticism after his injury. His rebound rate hasn’t taken a dive, though, so maybe it’ll keep coming back.

      Like most young players, his defense is still a work in progress. He’s very solid on the ball, and while he seems like he will keep improving as a team defender, he does still have a ways to go.

      That said, he can be, as you said, a solid complementary piece. His shooting should continue to improve, as will his defense, as long as he can stay healthy. But players like him aren’t a super hot commodity, so I don’t know how much demand there will be for him.

      • muhangis - Nov 17, 2013 at 5:24 AM

        Yeah like I mentioned, he hardly touches the ball cause of who is his teammates (Carmelo, etc…)

        I think it makes a lot more sense to trade away Felton; if he has more value (hard to tell), also six years older, and Felton has just been flat overrated.

        You get more value in return trading away your highly OVERRATED player (Felton) rather than your UNDERRATED guy (Shumpert) – and like I mentioned Felton is much older, his salary $ is higher, he’s not as good, etc.

        Trade Felton.

  8. eugenesaxe1 - Nov 16, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    It’s a shame Stern can disallow a legitimate trade but can’t remove incompetent ownership.

  9. muhangis - Nov 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM

    I’m telling each of you right now… Hardaway Jr. will not cut it in the NBA; short & long term.

    When he reaches his eventual prime, he’ll become nothing more than an okay guy off the bench – I truly predict.

    Might as well trade him for a 1st rd. pick next year, if u can get it.

  10. jimsjam33 - Nov 17, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Why would anybody want Shumpert ? If he’s that good why doesn’t a sad sack Knick team want him ?

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