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Report: Minnesota willing to move Derrick Williams, Alexey Shved for veterans

Nov 12, 2013, 12:01 PM EDT

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Derrick Williams and Alexey Shved are reportedly on the market but this is all about Kevin Love.

If that sounds strange, follow along here. Minnesota is entering a “win now” phase and they are off to a nice 5-3 start this season thanks to their expected strong offense and a better than expected defense. They look like a playoff team if they can stay healthy.

But that is not enough. This note from Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports — in a story primarily about how the Knicks are selling Carmelo Anthony on how they will go after Love in 2015 — includes this interesting tidbit about the Timberwolves efforts to keep Love in house and how that may impact the roster.

Kevin Love is on deck to be recruited to New York in 2015, and that’s among the reasons the Timberwolves are so determined to make deals to climb deep into the playoffs these next two years. Young Minnesota players Derrick Williams and Alexey Shved are available in deals for veterans to help these T’wolves now, league executives told Yahoo Sports.

Thanks to the legacy of David Kahn (who refused to give him a five year max contract extension), Love can opt out in the summer of 2015 and almost certainly will. It’s no secret around the league that Love has had his frustrations with the Timberwolves and he is seen as a guy who could bolt. He will be the marquee free agent of 2015 and likely will have the Knicks, Lakers and maybe even Bulls among others knocking on his door.

Minnesota finally kicked Kahn to the curb last summer and brought in Flip Saunders as the head of basketball operations with the goal of repairing the organization’s relationship with Love and building a winner that will make him want to stay.

Winning will be the key. Minnesota can offer one more year and larger raises than all the other 2015 suitors, but what really makes it hard for Love to leave Minnesota is if he thinks he is walking away from a contender or potential contender. In two years, can this core with Ricky Rubio, Kevin Martin and Nikola Pekovic grow into something that can challenge the Spurs, Thunder, Clippers and Warriors out West?

Saunders knows he needs more, hence the idea of moving good young players in Williams and Shved for guys more ready to help now.

Minnesota is getting out of the player development, “we’re happy to be up-and-comers” role and into something more serious. With that could come some interesting player movement in the next couple years.

  1. themagicfanguy - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Afflalo and Moore/Lamb/Maxiell/BigBaby for Shved and Williams, maybe a second round pick thrown in there.

    • 00maltliquor - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:25 PM

      Why would you want to get rid of Afflalo for a bunch of C+ listers? Dude is straight ballin’ right now!

      • eventhorizon04 - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM

        I was about to say, a good 2-way shooting guard who can defend well and space the floor for Rubio (who can’t shoot) would be a terrific get for the Wolves.

      • 00maltliquor - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:34 PM

        Yeah, for the WOLVES. ORL not so much.

    • cflip376 - Nov 12, 2013 at 3:15 PM

      Replace Afflalo w/ Jameer and keep Lamb for now.

  2. unfly - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:26 PM



  3. kb2408 - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Love going to NY would be career suicide. If he leaves Minny, and I think he will, he will go to the LAKERS or Chicago. As much as I’d love to see him in L.A., the lure of playing with Rose could be strong. But with that being said, I still like the LAKERS chances. Love loves L.A. (pun intended).

    • sportsfan18 - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:58 PM

      Depends on who else the Lakers have in 2015.

      The Bulls have a known in D. Rose.

      The Lakers will need to have a player in the range of a D. Rose (Melo does NOT count) for Love to want to go there.

      Yes, I’m sure he loves L.A. and he could very well end up with the Lakers… depending on who else they get.

      • kb2408 - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:48 PM

        Well, rumor in L.A. is Jim Buss is bringing Magic back specifically to recruit LeBron. LBJ in 14, Love in 15? Don’t give me too many “thumbs down”, I can dream!!

  4. ryanrockzzz - Nov 12, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    The problem is neither one of these players, either induvidually or together could get the Wolves anything to help them. Shved has looked awful when he gets a chance to play. Williams has his moments, but doesn’t strike me as having out of this world potential.

    • eventhorizon04 - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:13 PM

      Partially agreed.

      Shved hasn’t looked good but is cheap.
      Williams has his moments, and importantly, is still on his rookie deal.

      So there are teams who want to tank this year and acquire cheap assets while offloading a *decent* veteran whose skills are being wasted on a team not going anywhere. Again – the Wolves aren’t going to get a great or even good player, but they could get decent depth.

  5. libertarianvoter - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Shved is a “good young player”? Somebody tell his stats and his skills that. They seem to be completely unaware and are doing their best to jettison him from the league in a couple of years.

  6. whereyaat - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Jeez, with all the bricks Brewer is throwing up, you’d think DWill would get some more PT. Trading Brewer would make more sense, especially if Budinger is returning. Heck, trade Brewer and DWill for a decent SF. As for Shved, the decline has been staggering – you’d have to be crazy to trade for that guy.

    • jabeus - Nov 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM

      Have you watched the wolves at all this year???? Brewer is one of the biggest reasons they are winning, (outside of the two Kevins)yea, his shooting isn’t the greatest but his defense, fast break points and cutting to the basket have been phenomenal, and anybody who knows ANYTHING about basketball knows there is more to a player than just shooting percentage.

      He is exactly what this team needs and you would would be crazy to give that up!

      • whereyaat - Nov 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM

        Actually, yes, I posted that comment after watching Brewer throw up brick after brick after brick after brick after brick against the Clippers. Brick!

  7. ProBasketballPundit - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    I can see Kevin Love & Russell Westbrook teaming up for the Lakers after Kobe & Nash retire. They already played together and both are very likely to bolt. In fact I think Durant is going to bolt from OKC too…. once it sets in how incredibly cheap his owners are.

    • cg2424 - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:21 PM

      Thank you so much, Jalen Rose. Your insight and professional opinion is priceless.

    • therealhtj - Nov 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM

      Seeing as how Westbrook is locked in until 2017, I’m really not sure where you or Jalen got that notion.

      If I’m Love though, being on a low playoff seed in Minny or LA, it wouldn’t take a whole lotta soul searching to figure out which one I’d prefer.

      • ProBasketballPundit - Nov 12, 2013 at 3:55 PM

        You never know what’s going to happen in a year or two in the NBA. The Thunder owners are proving to be so cheap and to care about championships so little that I can see them trading Westbrook for a high draft pick or cheaper player. Or maybe Westbrook plays out his entire contract and then leaves… but I just can’t see OKC staying together much longer if the owners keep making cheap decisions.

  8. jolink653 - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Lol I love how Lakers fans are under the illusion that every star wants to leave their team and play for the Lakers…how’d that work out with Dwight again? And why would Westbrook ever leave the Thunder? You do know that core is 25 and younger, right? They haven’t even reached their primes yet, and OKC may not have a ton of money, but they’re not stupid enough to throw big money at players who aren’t worth it

    As for Love, it would be awesome to see him play for the Knicks, but I just don’t see it happening…I think he’ll stay put in Minnesota because they have a lot of young, developing talent and as crazy as it sounds, they’re not too far away from contending in the West if they keep building the way they have been lately

    • kb2408 - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:53 PM

      Don’t use Dwight as a basis for your argument, he is a “different” dude. Regardless to what happened in that situation, the LAKERS usually get their man. You and I both know it!

      • huschlej - Nov 12, 2013 at 7:48 PM

        Other than Shaq, what great free agent have the Lakers signed in their prime? I honestly can’t think of any, but I may be forgetting someone.

  9. gnu2308 - Nov 12, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    The clown that wrote that story is the same clown that said Ricky Rubio would likely be traded to the NY Knicks.

    The problem with todays sports media is they can throw nonsense against the wall and if it doesn’t stick they just throw more nonsense at the wall.

    No credibility.

  10. jolink653 - Nov 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    What cheap decisions are you referencing? The decision to trade Harden? You do realize they don’t have problems scoring points and when the decision came to sign Ibaka or Harden long-term, the smart decision was to sign Ibaka because he’s a perennial DPoY candidate and is a lock to be amongst the leaders in blocks every season; he provides something more valuable to that team than Harden did scoring points…they couldn’t sign all four and have any cap room left to sign quality players to put around their stars, so they traded Harden for a year of K-Mart and what looks like two solid pieces in Lamb and the pick that turned out to be Steven Adams…other than that, I can’t see any “cheap decisions” or anything that would make me think Westbrook would ever leave OKC

  11. jimsjam33 - Nov 12, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Los Angeles used to be a Laker town , but now all the star power is on the Clippers . The Laker’s have the all TV contracts and all the stars coming to see them , but that is going to stop pretty soon . They have no one on their roster except Kobe Bryant and even he’s going downhill really fast .
    The Laker’s need Kevin Love . Kevin Love needs the Lakers . With a star attraction comes other players that will put the excitement back into the Stables when the Lakers are playing . Love and Westbrook are UCLA guys . Hollywood will search out Love and guarantee him mega millions outside of basketball . The Clippers share the arena and if Love comes back he’ll be top dog over CP3 and Blake Griffin . Los Angeles has too much going for it . Love would be hard pressed to overlook it’s advantages .

  12. chiadam - Nov 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Not Alexey Schved!!

  13. eugenesaxe1 - Nov 12, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    The Lakers don’t have anyone signed for 2015 that would convince Love to sign there. That could change of course, but saying he’ll end up there is silly, unless the dude just really wants to be a Laker. As for the Knicks, I think/hope he’s smarter than that.

    • greatmiamisportsmind - Nov 12, 2013 at 9:54 PM

      So let me get this right? The Lake

    • greatmiamisportsmind - Nov 12, 2013 at 10:05 PM

      So let me get this right? The Lakers have nobody signed for 2015, so Love will leave a playoff team with a solid young core, to sign with the Lakers who have _________, and an unknown ______, and a veteran in _________, and 8 other __________ under contracts.

      If you say so

      • jimsjam33 - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:52 AM

        GMSM ,

        You wanna get it right ? Okay let me explain . Wilt Chamberlain -Philadelphia , Lew Alcindor – Milwaukee , Bob McAdoo – Buffalo , Magic Johnson – Utah , Kobe Bryant -Charlotte , Shaquille O’Neal – Orlando , Pau Gasol -Memphis , Dwight Howard – Orlando ,
        Los Angeles is a major draw . Kevin Love is from Los Angeles in his UCLA roots .
        All the stars listed above came as the result of trades . The Lakers are a dominant force because of what LA can offer and other cities cannot . It’s not always about money . Except for Howard everyone of these guys brought an NBA championship to LA .

      • greatmiamisportsmind - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:18 PM

        Exactly how is Magic Johnson tied to Utah? He grew up in East Lancing, Michigan. Attended Michigan State, which is in East Lancing. Then drafted by the Lakers?

        As for Bob McAdoo, you conveniently left out the stops between Buffalo and Los Angeles that span 9 years. You know, New York, Boston, Detroit, and New Jersey. He must have really loved Los Angeles after leaving for Philadelphia and Italy.

        Kevin Love thought so much of his one year at UCLA (from Portland might I remind you) that he lasted 1 season there. He could have stayed longer and made a deep run in the NCAA, but would rather go to the NBA knowing he’d be going to a crappy team. Then again with your logic that Kobe- Charlotte would be the equilivant of Kevin Love- Memphis since both were draft day trades right?

      • jimsjam33 - Nov 14, 2013 at 2:28 AM

        Magic Johnson was drafted number one by the Lakers in 1972 . In 1971 they were first in their division . So why did they get the first pick of the draft ? Because in 1970 they traded Gail Goodrich to the Utah Jazz in their first year in the league . Utah finished last and the the trade for Goodrich was for a future un-protected first round pick . So Magic Johnson instead of going to the Jazz ended up in Los Angeles .
        As for McAdoo what’s your point ? The Lakers wanted him and got him . It’s that simple . .

      • jimsjam33 - Nov 14, 2013 at 2:33 AM

        Correction ,

        The Lakers got Magic in 1979 not 1972 . The Jazz obtained Gail Goodrich as a restricted free agent so Utah had to compensate the Lakers with their future first round pick , which turned out to be Magic .

  14. pistolpete0903 - Nov 13, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    In the surprisingly open Western conference, I agree twith Twolves mentality. They can go all the way to the NBA Finals.

    Having said that, trading the enigmatic Williams could come to bite them. Has quite a bit of potential, but hasn’t shown much on the court.

    Love has to look at Dirk and see how things eventyally worked out for him. Has to be patient; he has a HOF’er coach, some good talent in Rubio. They could use some defense though (Gerald Wallace?). Maybe trade Martin and/or Budinger.

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