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After ugly blowout loss Sunday, Knicks’ owner sits down with Woodson

Nov 11, 2013, 12:53 PM EDT

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It’s never good when the boss calls you into his office.

Especially if you are the coach of a basketball team that just got blown out by 31 points on your home court, with your team falling to 2-4 on the season. A season where the owner expects a title.

But that’s what happened to Knicks coach Mike Woodson — he ended up in owner James Dolan’s office after the Spurs exposed and embarrassed New York Sunday afternoon at the Garden. Frank Isola of the New York Daily News has the story.

Mike Woodson’s horrible day concluded with a meeting with James Dolan and his boss later guaranteeing victory on Wednesday against the Atlanta Hawks.

Under the circumstances, the sit down and Dolan’s guarantee — spoken on stage during a performance by Dolan’s band JD and the Straight Shot — was not nearly as excruciating for Woodson as watching the Knicks fail to show up against the San Antonio Spurs on Sunday.

There is starting to be speculation about Mike Woodson’s job safety, and there were fans in New York starting a “fire Woodson” chant late in the game. There certainly are things we can question about Woodson’s choices, including his desire to go big with Andrea Bargnani at the four despite how well Carmelo Anthony played in that position last year.

But the mess in New York is not Woodson’s fault.

He didn’t assemble a mismatched roster. Anyone who had watched Bargnani in the past three years knew he was not a guy you count on to be a key player. It’s not Woodson’s fault Tyson Chandler is out, there is no real center depth behind him and there are no other strong defenders on the roster.

This not a well assembled roster. They have the talent to be a good team — 50 wins and a solid playoff seed and they will put up points — but certainly not one that is a contender no matter what Dolan thinks. Woodson has done as much with what he was given as could be expected.

Phil Jackson is not walking through that door. Sorry. And even if he did he couldn’t win it all with this group. The problems are deeper than the coaching.

  1. dadeyemi - Nov 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Outside of Sterling, we might have the worst owner in basketball

    • eugenesaxe1 - Nov 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM

      Sterling is a worse human being, but at least he finally has a team worth talking about in a positive manner.

  2. dohoangquan35 - Nov 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    i miss the Ewing squad and Linsanity. One was tough, one was team-oriented. These days, both elements are gone

  3. odenxx - Nov 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    I blame the slow start on Carmelo’s missed shots. His percentage is way down . And Woodson is just not a very good coach his rotations a horrible, his match ups terrible and forcing them to switch all the time .bad idea!

  4. kb2408 - Nov 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    So, another good coach is on the chopping block because the GM gave him a flawed team? And who hired the GM? The owner is the problem. But of course he’s not going anywhere.

    • redbaronx - Nov 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

      All Knick fans hate Dolan! I don’t know one of my Knick friends from my old neighborhood that doesn’t want this guy to disappear. FAST!

    • antistratfordian - Nov 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM

      Every team is flawed. Genuinely good coaches find ways to win regardless. I don’t have a high opinion of Woodson – I’d lump him in there with everyone else in New York when it comes to incompetence.

  5. MLBlogsbig3bosox - Nov 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    I wonder how would be Dolan if the Nets had gotten to a fast start on top of it. He would’ve gone nuts.

  6. bballhistorian - Nov 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Havent commented on here for a while (absolutely love this site and i come here everyday).

    Anyways…back to the story. Since his “new friends” from Brooklyn are doing quite well and his Knicks are not, seems like Dolan must’ve put a wager among his corporate buddies that the Knicks are still the better team. That’s the only logical explanation on a franchise owner would be this outspoken and guaranteeing titles/victories. It’s very personal for him.

  7. lastdukestreetking - Nov 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    The current NYK roster, even with a heathy Chandler, is nowhere near a 50 win team. 44-47 tops. Even if Phil Jackson walked through their door.

  8. telldatruth - Nov 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Gotta love Dolan, he cares so much about the Knicks!!! The bar is high.

  9. genvarsh - Nov 11, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    we have two huge cities, LA and NY. Just can’t figure it out, why LA lakers always get it right, and NY Knicks never get it right…………. anybofy explain, please.

    • eugenesaxe1 - Nov 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

      The Lakers used to have an owner that knew what he was doing. You see what’s happened there since Junior took over.

      • kavika6 - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:38 AM

        Same exact situation in Utah.

    • alexb1234 - Nov 11, 2013 at 4:24 PM

      The lakers get it right bc they traded for a guy on draft day named….Kobe Bryant….if the knicks had kobe they’d be “getting it right” too

  10. redbaronx - Nov 11, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    When will someone call Dolan into the office? Can’t stand that moron! Wish he would sell the Knicks to Spike Lee and friends.

  11. eugenesaxe1 - Nov 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Owners guaranteeing wins is about a stupid move. I’d be tempted to lose just to make that horse’s @$$ look bad.

  12. bbk1000 - Nov 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Just an opinion, but I’m thinking Dolan would love to have Isaiah still in charge of the Knicks.

    It appears he thinks the same way regarding the Rangers.

    I wish my daddy had money or could hand me a world…is this Charlie X??

  13. doctorfootball - Nov 11, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    I can see where Woodson takes the blame because all coaches do. That said, it’s not his fault this Knicks team was so poorly put together. It’s a mish-mash of talent that doesn’t complete one another. Also, and this is Woodson’s fault, keeping D’antoni’s offense in place, has destroyed any chance of the Knicks competing on the boards. Having 1 guy to rebound while 4 others stand behind the 3pt line is going to cost you on the boards when those treys aren’t falling

  14. dinofrank60 - Nov 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Dolan may be doing Woodson a favor if he fires him. As for the comparison to D’Antoni, at least Woodson ASKS his players to TRY to play defense.

  15. kavika6 - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Give them a break, they played the Spurs.

    • sportsfan18 - Nov 14, 2013 at 11:01 AM

      They took a 48 minute break.

  16. sportsfan18 - Nov 12, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    This summer and into the preseason there were MANY Knicks fans on this site saying how good they were going to be, even improved from last’s yrs team…

    They didn’t want to listen to reason then and now they are saying how they know that this yrs team isn’t good…

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