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Carmelo Anthony led closed door meeting with Knicks’ players after Bobcats loss

Nov 8, 2013, 3:10 PM EDT

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There are dark clouds over Madison Square Garden right now (figuratively, the Weather Channel makes it sound like a normal fall day there).

The Knicks are 1-3 to start the season, lost to the Bobcats at home in their last game, and now will be without Tyson Chandler — one of the two guys they simply could not afford to lose for a stretch — for 4-to-6 weeks with a broken fibula. That is going to mean forcing Kenyon Martin into more action than he may be physically ready for (he was on a minutes restriction), same with Amare Stoudemire, it means more Cole Aldrich, and maybe worst of all more Andrea Bargnani. While you can make the argument this could be good for the Knicks’ offense if it forces Mike Woodson to go back to Anthony at the four, the defense is going to be awful.

On top of it all they even cut back on the dancers.

It looks like a tough month ahead for the Knicks faithful.

To stem that tide, Carmelo Anthony said he called a closed-door meeting after the Knicks fell to the Bobcats this week. Ian Begley at ESPNNewYork.com has the quotes.

“We shut the door after the game and talked it out a little bit and tried to figure out what was happening,” Anthony said Friday…

“We’ve got to want it, we’ve got to want to do it. We’ve got to believe in ourselves, and right now we’re playing like we don’t even believe in ourselves,” Anthony said. “It’s just effort….

“You cannot turn the ball over if you want to be a good team in this league,” Anthony said. “Hopefully the conversation we had after that game made everybody realize that although it is early there are some things we need to fix and we need to fix now.”

Turnovers aren’t good, but that’s not been the Knicks biggest problem (they turn the ball over on 17.6 percent of their possessions, 12th in the NBA so far). The biggest issue has been their offense (23rd in the league) where they are not sharing the ball that much which is leading to contested shots, they are not getting to the free throw line, plus they are not getting many offensive rebounds and second chances.

Whatever Anthony said the Knicks need this meeting to work — the offense has to get better because the defense is about to get a lot worse. The Knicks have been almost 15 points per 100 possessions worse when Tyson Chandler sits, and now he is going to be sitting for a while. The offense needs to win the Knicks some games so they are not trying to dig out of too big a hole after Christmas.

  1. peterjohnjoseph - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Turnovers? Like passing the ball across half court straight into the stands for absolutely no reason?

    Although, I guess its nothing really new. It’s what Melo’s done his whole career- pass to no one.

  2. spursareold - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Dolan learned nothing from Paul Allen’s Jailblazer era. You can’t just throw a bunch of scorers together and have a team.

  3. lenbias34pt - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Certain superior talented guys in sports simply don’t get it.
    Melo is the classic case in the NBA. There are examples in every sport: Josh Hamilton, Mike Vick, hell you can make a case Bret Farve played with more talent than every QB in his era and time and again he choked it in the playoffs.
    I digress…….

    Course in Basketball it stands out more. It’s a sport where only 5 guys play, so if you are paying top dollar for one of these guys you will never win.
    Course the Knicks have 2 so a none playoff team should shock anyone.

    Most NBA personal men know that you can not win with Melo. Now the Knicks are slowly finding this out. Gotta say the Knick fans that will go ape over this post will be going equally ape when Mello bolts NY for another team to drag down.

  4. moseskkim - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    JR Smith is gonna solve a lot of problems. create some new ones but solve a lot. this team just doesnt have good offensive options. felton is a below avg pg who cant create. mwp is a chucker. bargnani sucks. shump can only play D. the hate on melo is so unwarranted. lebron has wade bosh and solid shooters/veterans. melo has who? chandler? but yeah JR Smith will help shoulder the offensive load. he can make shots so itll help. btw..wheres beno udrih at. hes solid.

    • lenbias34pt - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:18 PM

      Where are the Heat superior to the Knicks?

      Sure Wade is a great player, and Bosh is a fringe All Star, but you replace Mello with King James (who i detest) and the Knicks are as good as any team in the NBA.

      You put replace KJ with Mello on the Heat and they are a worse team than Indiana, the Nets and arguably the Bulls.

      • deadeyedesign23 - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:04 AM

        Is you’re point that having the greatest player of the century on your team really swings things? Because yeah you’re right, and Miami has him which is why the Heat are far superior to the Knicks.

    • m4a188 - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM

      I’m pretty sure if we swapped Lebron for Carmelo both teams would go in different directions.

      • kb2408 - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        No….you gotta be kidding!!! Speaking of stating the obvious.

  5. starvingardens - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Why does it feel as if Isaiah Thomas’ fingers are all over this years Knicks team?

    • money2long - Nov 9, 2013 at 8:55 PM

      1 , bargnani doesnt suck.

      2, imagine if you’re right.. really, imagine if you actually got this right …

      think what if dolan and thomas secretly exchange ideas. if i think about it, bargnani does seem like a move that follows the thomas trend. player with a lot of potential, who cost a lot but can put up number when going. sorta like a stevie franchise, or zach randolph, or marbury. ‘

      what if thomas told dolan to pull the trigger on this move and was like, lets see if the public likes it when they have no idea it was my idea. they wouldn’t give the trade a chance if they knew it was my idea. so lets see how they take it when they think i wasn’t involved. i’ll look like a genius.

      said isiah thomas

    • benjamintko - Nov 11, 2013 at 4:20 PM

      I know he’s still whispering in Dolan’s ears. Has Dolan under his spell.

  6. Kevin S. - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Also “Sorry I cost a lottery team it’s draft pick during the most loaded draft in over a decade because I wanted to make an extra $7 million over three years,” probably.

  7. convincedofthehex - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Too funny, the Magic receive the less favorable of the Nuggets or Knicks 2014 First Round pick. It’s possible both teams could miss the playoffs, and the Magic will then have two lottery picks in a loaded draft. Did not see that coming.

    • spursareold - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:44 PM

      Rob Hennigan probably did. He worked for RC Buford for a while in SA.

  8. universalseeder305 - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Two weeks into the season and already the knicks are hacing a players only meeting!?! lol
    Tell me this doesn’t seem like Carmelo’s last year as a knick?!?

  9. jbeagles23 - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Just want to hear knick fans thoughts on Andrea now that they’ve seen him play?

    • bougin89 - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:25 PM

      He’s been solid on the bench. He had an awfully fantastic “Air Bargnani” moment on a reverse layup. He really likes Manhattan. I assume he pays taxes.

      I’m not a Knick fan but I was trying to throw in some positives there.

    • sportsfan18 - Nov 8, 2013 at 7:48 PM

      Ha! Stats so far for THIS season only.

      FG%

      Melo .371%
      Bargs ..484%

      3 pt %

      Melo .300%
      Bargs ..333%

      True shooting percentage

      Melo .473%
      Bargs .549%

  10. clevelandschronic2 - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Wow is anyone really surprised. I mean seriously. We all knew melo shoots to much, that tyson is pretty much a defensive player with limited offense. Amare is a shell of Himself and hasnt been right in years(probably never will be the same). The offense is terrible and melo is the only threat, he doesnt create opportunities for other teammates so the opponents stack up on him. JR wont help much either(what offense you gain by his return is hurt by his defense). The defense is gonna suffer now that Tyson’s out awhile so it may only get worse. But whoever thinks they wont make the playoffs is crazy! They’ll be in the playoffs but question is how long. They need to make a trade to improve if they plan on contending for a title.

  11. kb2408 - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    A players only meeting after 4 games?! If this happened in the NFL I would completely understand. But the Knicks have 78 games left!

  12. tegan3 - Nov 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Everyone hating on Melo is ridiculous, the guy leads his team in points and steals per game, is averaging almost 10 boards per game, and is second in assists to Felton so far this year. How are you going to call him a ball hog when he has the second most assists?

  13. eugenesaxe1 - Nov 8, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    ” they are not sharing the ball that much”
    A team w/ Anthony on it not sharing the ball? Unbelievable.

  14. sfsugator - Nov 8, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    The Knicks killed my parlay last time I put dough on the knickerbockers vs the bobcats smh..

  15. jolink653 - Nov 9, 2013 at 2:28 AM

    Anyone still want to complain about Bargnani after seeing what he did tonight? He has potential to be a solid piece on this team

  16. belleby123 - Nov 9, 2013 at 7:44 AM

    “That’s it, I’m taking 50 shots a game now.”

  17. peddealer - Nov 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Does anybody not notice that their offense is affected by losing J Kidd?!?!

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