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SportsDash: Eastern Conference preview with Stan Van Gundy, Wojnarowski

Oct 28, 2013, 9:29 PM EDT

If you didn’t tune into the Sports Dash at noon (eastern) on the NBC Sports Network… well first off, what’s wrong with you? Watch this show.

Anyway, if you missed it Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated hosted a roundtable with Stan Van Gundy, Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports and CSN New England’s Donny Marshall (he played in the league and everything) breaking down the Eastern Conference. Mannix, like me, is high on the Pacers.

That said, Miami is on top of the mountain until somebody knocks them off.

  1. antistratfordian - Oct 28, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Who isn’t high on the Pacers? People have been high on the Pacers for a few years now. There is something mysterious about the Pacers that makes average people think they have potential to be better than they are – all of their players are overrated for the same reason – I think it has something to do with the charming legacy of Indiana and/or reputation of Indiana+Larry Bird.

    Last year PBT predicted 56 wins for the Pacers. Hmmm.

    • sugarkeyboards - Oct 28, 2013 at 10:53 PM

      but conference finals tho

      • antistratfordian - Oct 29, 2013 at 4:38 PM

        So… you get no kudos for losing in the conference finals. Especially if you get blown out in game 7 with your supposed “best player” (Paul George) turning into Boy George.

        Plenty of teams have made it to the conference finals and lost – that doesn’t really mean anything by itself.

  2. johngalt1783 - Oct 28, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    I think they pretty well nailed it except for the one guy who went a bit overboard on the Pacers, (Producer’s request?). Other than that sounded right to me.

  3. M.D. Katona - Oct 28, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Pacers are gonna test the Heat, but I think last year was their best chance and LeBron is just too dominant. Don’t underestimate the effect that Oden and Beasley could give the Heat off the bench this year too. If Oden’s healthy and Beasley finally pulls it together, they could be even more dominant in the postseason. Not like they need a whole lot from either guy.

    Anyways, I wrote about the Milwaukee Bucks outlook for the season in my blog for class. Check it out basketball fans!

  4. zoomy123 - Oct 29, 2013 at 2:44 AM

    The people is this video are a little…shall we say intellectually challenged. The idea that Miami might not repeat because they remained stagnant is predicated on 2 false assumptions: 1) stagnancy is necessarily bad and 2) Miami could have gotten better but didn’t.

    The first assumption is obviously false because it confuses stagnancy with consistency. The most important thing in a dynasty is consistency. For example: during Jordan’s two 3-peats he always had the same players, during Shaq + Kobe’s 3-peat they always had the same players, etc.

    And the second assumption is false because Miami couldn’t get any better. They’ve been the BEST constructed team 2 years in a row. And then they got even better in 2013 with the addition of Birdman and Ray Allen. Miami is now the BEST constructed team with the BEST player on the planet and the BEST bench in the league. Their bench consists of: Norris Cole, Ray Allen, Roger Mason Jr., Shane Battier, Michael Beasley, Birdman, and Greg Oden. They literally have an 12 man team; it’s literally not possible for them to get any better because they’re run out of roster space, lol.

    • davidly - Oct 29, 2013 at 8:08 AM

      The assertion that Jordan “always had the same players” is false. He had nearly all the same starters for each run, but there were several rotations in the lineup and replacements on the bench for each three-peat. Scott Burrell, for example, in 92-93 made major contributions but was nowhere to be found on the roster prior to that year. Ditto Trent Tucker and Rodney McCray in 93, the former particular necessary to replace Craig Hodges.

      Regarding Miami’s bench: be careful what you tout on paper. They have yet to prove they are as good bench as you claim.

      Of course none of this means that they aren’t the best team, but your criticism of the analysis in the video is overzealous.

      • zoomy123 - Nov 4, 2013 at 2:39 PM

        Everything you’ve written here is 100% irrelevant because you never addressed my primary argument, which is that consistency is NOT the same thing as stagnancy and consistency is a necessary precondition for a three-peat. The fact that the rotation may have been tweaked a little bit is irrelevant because my overall point still stands: each championship run always maintained the same core group of players.

        Moreover, Miami’s bench has significantly contributed to 2 championships, and that’s proof enough that they’re as good as I claim they are. Whether it’s Mike Miller hitting 7 3’s in game 5 of the 2012 NBA Finals or Shane Battier hitting 6 3’s in game 7 of the 2013 NBA Finals or Birdman hitting 15 straight buckets during the 2013 ECF or Ray Allen hitting the game tying 3 in game 6 of the NBA Finals or Norris Cole shooting 69%, 82% from 3, and averaging 11 ppg in the 2013 ECSF. And I can go on and on…

    • davidly - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM

      Consistency is certainly required. So is making the moves to assure you can remain consistent. The analysts above don’t think they did and have come to the conclusion that they could very well stagnate–that is, fail to remain consistent, i.e. not progress to the finals again.

      But that was not what I was responding to. I was merely pointing out that those Bulls teams did, in fact, make significant changes to their roster, core consistency notwithstanding. Those significant changes had a role to play in their winning the third championship(s).

  5. zoomy123 - Oct 29, 2013 at 2:54 AM

    Seriously, what are these guys talking about? Indiana is the best team in the East? Paul George is not a guy you can give the ball to and he can create his own shot?!

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