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Philadelphia waives Royce White, among others

Oct 24, 2013, 8:47 PM EDT

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When the Sixers traded for Royce White back in July — surrendering the draft rights to international prospect Furkan Aldemir, future considerations and cash — there was some buzz around the league the Sixers were more interested in Aldemir than White, who was just a salary.

That appears to be the case.

White was one of four players waived by Philadelphia on Thursday, reports CSNPhilly.com.

A league source confirmed to CSNPhilly.com’s Dei Lynam that Khalif Wyatt, Royce White, Vander Blue and Mac Koshwal have all been released. The news was first reported by the Bucks County Courier Times’ Tom Moore, citing Sixers president/general manager Sam Hinkie. The Sixers have yet to make an official announcement.

White was the No. 22 pick of the Houston Rockets in 2012, but he never played for them. He battles a generalized anxiety disorder that includes a fear of flying, although he did make a trip with the Sixers this preseason. But more than that, there are reports that the Sixers (like the Rockets) were frustrated his attitude, feeling he was claiming to want help and to work with a team but at every point tearing apart those efforts.

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Houston traded him to Philadelphia this summer and from the outside he seemed to be turning over a new leaf.  This preseason he played in five games, starting one, but shooting 39.1 percent. White handled his departure with class.

There is on the court talent there, but it is unclear if he will ever really develop it. Or get the chance to. No NBA team will pick him up now, he is on to the D-League again if he wants to play this season.

  1. tcclark - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    Wow I expected 2 of the 4 of them to make the roster. I thought White and one of Wyatt and Blue would make the roster but I guess not. I hope they try to add some of these guys to the D-league team. I was really rooting for Khalif, but he’s just not ready.

  2. ronturdgundy - Oct 24, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    Half of WHOP just got cut

  3. kb2408 - Oct 24, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    People talked about this dude like he was the second coming of Magic. Or, at least a poor man’s version of him. What happened? Maybe the D-league is best for him. He needs to play big minutes and it wasn’t going to happen in the NBA. Then at least we will know if he can actually play or not. Right now he’s all hype.

    • JHathwell - Oct 24, 2013 at 9:38 PM

      Magic?

      Who said that?

    • detectivejimmymcnulty - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:49 PM

      Never heard the Magic comparisons. He’s a point forward. Talent doesn’t mean everything. He seems to be the type who uses his disorder as a way to get attention instead of trying to get help.

      • adamsjohn714 - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

        Yeah those people should just shut up and stay in the shadows!!

    • spursareold - Oct 25, 2013 at 10:29 AM

      Not Magic. His closest current analog would maybe Boris Diaw, a PF body with guard skills.

    • doubledown44 - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM

      Nobody ever talked THAT highly of him. Everyone said this is a a guy who could be a really talented player if …

      The thing is, though, this seems like a guy we should be pulling for. A talented player trying to overcome his fears and make it in the league sounds like a great story. However, he makes it pretty difficult to root for him. He uses whatever he can as excuses, he publicly belittles his employers, he tries to make the situation perfect for him and doesn’t seem willing to compromise, and he uses his Twitter feed to passive-aggressively call out his critics. In addition, he is making the road much more difficult for future sports prospects with similar afflictions. I’m not saying that there aren’t positives to him, but I am say that the negatives seem to be at the forefront.

      I hope he can overcome his affliction, but it’s just hard to see him getting into the league at this point. If you owned a basketball team (NBA, D-League or otherwise), would you want to take on everything that comes with him?

  4. burm61 - Oct 24, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    I forget but didn’t people think he would’ve went top 5 in the draft without his disorder?

  5. biasedhomer - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    If he can’t make it on the Sixers (the team with the least talent in the NBA), I doubt he will make it with anyother team.

    • spursareold - Oct 25, 2013 at 10:34 AM

      It’s not a talent issue, it’s his attitude. He seems to think that the team has to do everything he says he needs in order to accomodate his disorder. He wanted his doctor to be able to clear him to play or practice, and teams thought he might abuse that to only do what he wanted when he wanted. When there is ANY kind of issue or disagreement, he goes on blast on Twitter. Teams take exception to that.

  6. edwardemanuelson - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    See ya Royce!

  7. chrisdtx - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    They also announced signing Michael Redd to a 1 day contract. He was immediately waived to complete the cycle.

  8. 00maltliquor - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Man, if you get cut from the Sixers then you may as well hang up the sneakers and start applying for whatever career it was you were studying for in college. If you can’t make the C team then pro basketball just ain’t for you. At least in the states.

    • sportsfan18 - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:21 AM

      Well, if he wants to play in Europe or somewhere else over there, he better start swimming and maybe he could play in the 2017 season…

  9. redbaronx - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    Yet another example of bad Philly management decisions coming back to bite them. Philly fans don’t deserve this crap. They really don’t. Philly is a great sports town and they deserve ownership that hires smart front office people that don’t make one mistake after another.

    * Trading Igoudala in a 3 way to get Bynum
    * Getting Royce White, Elton Brand…list goes on
    * Coach merry go round
    * Lack of direction or philosophy

    I’m not even a Philly fan and I’m pissed!

    • detectivejimmymcnulty - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:51 PM

      It’s pretty obvious they’re tanking. If they get Wiggins it would all be worth it.

      • redbaronx - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM

        @detectivejimmymcnulty – I agree that they’re tanking. But there’s obviously a problem with the capacity of management to make decisions. Royce White is just the tip of the iceberg.

        For example, there were multiple problems with the Bynum trade.

        1) They were trading for an injured player they had no assurance of whether he could play.
        2) It was Bynum. (bad work ethic, and a head case)
        3) You lose a great piece with Igoudala

        Then you look at all the other moves they’ve made in the last 4 years or so, and it just adds up to bad management.

        There’s a reason there are good clubs in the NBA and bad ones. Draft picks can change fortunes, but bad management is like beauty. Beauty fades. Dumb is forever. Exhibit A: The Charlotte Bobcats

      • ryanrockzzz - Oct 30, 2013 at 4:53 PM

        Hinkie is brand new. New day in Philly.

    • adamsjohn714 - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:58 PM

      At least they sold high on Jrue Holiday and turned him into a promising big man.

      • redbaronx - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:04 AM

        @adamsjohn714 – I have to admit that is the ONE move of theirs that I would grade an +A move.

      • redbaronx - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:11 AM

        @adamsjohn714 – Just to continue where I left off on my previous response to you (I had another thought), yes I liked the trade to get Nerlens Noel. But I also wonder whether that is due to Philly management being smart, or New Orleans being run by the NBA and not having any spine or independence in their office. The Pelicans (I hate that name!) gave up CP3 for nothing and it seems like that teams is serving as spare parts for any other team that wants to raid them.

        I just hope Philly gets their act together. The East is much better with a good Philly team, and it makes rivalries for NBA fans in the North East more enjoyable. I’ve lived in NYC and DC and going to Philly is fun and they have a great fan base.

      • adamsjohn714 - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:14 AM

        I’d have to agree with you. In the wake of some of their other decisions, it appears that may have been sheer luck.

      • detectivejimmymcnulty - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM

        I wasn’t sure if you were saying that NO is still run by the NBA or not, but Tom Benson bought the Pelicans and I believe hired Mickey Loomis as their gm, who is also gm of the Saints. They do have independence now, but competence may still be lacking.

      • bougin89 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:02 AM

        @redbaronx Gave up CP3 for nothing?!?!?! They got Eric Gordon!!

        (I would hope everyone would know this is sarcasm but just to be sure, I’m being sarcastic)

    • ochospantalones - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      Ummmmmmm…. redbaronx, you realize the Sixers are under entirely new management right, and have maybe the clearest direction (down) in the entire league right now?

      This is the second season for the Josh Harris ownership group, and the first season for President/GM Sam Hinke and first season for coach Brett Brown. So no one currently running the team was involved in signing Elton Brand (or trading for Chris Webber or the various other bad personnel moves), the coaching carousel, or the organizational drift the franchise suffered for the last decade or so (pretty much since Pat Croce left). The new leadership may or not may have success, but they have a clear plan (tanking!) and a clear philosophy (Rockets East).

      The current owners did approve the Bynum trade, but Hinke and Brown had nothing to do with it. The Royce White deal wasn’t a bad deal! It in no way hurt the franchise. They gave up nothing to get White, and the Rockets even paid his salary. There has been some confusion on this, but the Sixers received the rights to Furkan Aldemir in the deal, they didn’t give them up.

      Also, the Pelicans/Hornets haven’t been owned or controlled by the league for well over a year. They made all their deals this summer for their own reasons.

      So all in all, it seems very odd to be so critical of the current leadership when you actually approve of their biggest move so far, which is the Holiday trade.

      • redbaronx - Oct 29, 2013 at 3:14 PM

        @ochospantalones – You don’t have to be 100% for or against everything. Like you said, there are some moves that Philly has done that I like.

        Read my response to tcclark for more on that.

    • psubeerman21 - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:52 PM

      Let’s address your nonsense.

      1. Trading Iggy for Bynum was a no brainer. Bynum was coming off the best season of his career, and when he is healthy he is a game changer. Iggy is a fine role player and on the right team will excel; the Sixers were not the right team

      2. Elton Brand was THE top free agent signing of that year. He never lived up to his contract, but he was never awful. There are so many bad contracts in the NBA, Brand shouldn’t even be mentioned. And Royce White was all upside, no risk. They didn’t like him, so they cut him. The season wasn’t hinged on his performance. Big deal. And what other ones? What list?

      3. Coach Merry-go-round? Welcome to the NBA.

      4. I agree that there was a lack of direction before this year. Now, we know where we are going: trying to get as many picks for next year as possible. This is what must be done. No one is going to f***ing complain if they get Wiggins, Julius Randle, and Noel comes back healthy.

      • redbaronx - Oct 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM

        @psubeerman21- Let’s address your nonsense + FACTUALLY INCORRECT STATEMENTS!

        1) Bynum was injured the year before. I don’t know whether you don’t remember, or you’re choosing to conveniently ignore that little fact. Not to mention he’s spent a good part of his career injured. There were plenty of people that said it was a no brainer for Philly NOT to do the trade, and even if you take injury out of the picture, there is work ethic. This is more of a hobby for him. Do you know who Shawn Kemp is (if you’re old enough)? If not, look him up. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bynum is on the bottle in another year and out of the NBA.

        2) Elton Brand was also coming off a couple of years of injury before Philly, ended up overpaying him and had to cut him. Please tell me how this reflects well on the guys making decisions???

        3) Royce White all upside and no risk???? Are you smoking pot? It shows lack of judgment if nothing else.

        4) I love fan “projections” like this. First of all, the worst team in the NBA rarely gets the #1 pick with the lottery, so if Philly ends up having the worst record, it is fairly likely that one of the other teams will get a ping pong ball and get ahead of them. Remember that even if you have the best statistical odds with the most ping pong balls, there’s a greater likelihood another team (any team) will draw #1 statistically.

      • tcclark - Oct 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM

        1) Bynum played 60 of 66 games the year before and PLEASE show/tell me the people who said it was a no-brainer for the Sixers not to do this trade. They gave up very little for a franchise center and a guy who at the time was being argued as the best center in the NBA. And I don’t know about psubeerman, but I do know Shawn Kemp and aside from the fact that he was successful before playing for the Cavs, I’m not quite sure where you’re going with the comparison. Bynum (from my knowledge) has never been accused of having a drinking problem.

        2) Elton Brand was coming off one bad injury season and was one of a few players in history to average 20 and 10 for his career at that point.

        3) Royce White is gone and frankly the Sixers aren’t any worse for having him on the team. He’s gone and there isn’t an issue at all.

        4. He never made a prediction, but you’re right the worst team has a 25% chance of getting the first pick and a 75% chance of not getting it. At the same time the second worst team has just a 19.9% chance of getting the first pick and a 81.1% chance of not getting it. You have to play the odds. Being the worst gives you the best chance of getting #1.

    • tcclark - Oct 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM

      You realize that this is different management right? New General Manager, newish owner, new CEO. The majority owner(Josh Harris) just hired one of the “smartest” basketball mids in the buisness in Sam Hinkie. The guy believes and follows analytics and is very intelligent. He was the number two in one of the better run franchises in the NBA and has given this franchise the direction you’re looking for.

      Trading Iguodala was a different GM and a different president of Basketball Operations and frankly was a wash from an Iguodala stand point considering he would have definitely left in free agency this year anyway. Personally I’d be more upset about Harkless, Vucavic, and a first, but the trade was a no-brainer at the time for the Sixers and gave them a direction and philosophy.

      Royce White was a no risk situation and wasn’t even the focal point of the trade.

      Elton Brand was a decision made 2 gms ago and a different ownership group all together and again was a no-brainer at the time that just didn’t work out

      Brett Brown is the first coach hired by this management group and really we’ve had 3 coaches in 8 years anyway. That would be a really slow Merry Go Round. Doug had been here since 2010 and he resigned (not management’s fault he left)

      And as stated before the Sixers have a very definite direction… downward. You seem to be one of those people who would rather they make the playoffs as an 8th seed. They are purposely being bad right now so that they can do three particular things: grow young talent, create financial flexibility for free agency, and obtain great young talent in this year’s stacked draft. You should be cheering the management group every time the Sixers lose. They’re building for the future the only way you can in the NBA.

      • redbaronx - Oct 29, 2013 at 3:12 PM

        @tcclark – First of all I have no dog in this fight. I’m a Wizards fan by default since I’ve been living in DC for years, and I just can’t root for the Knicks with Dolan running the show (I’m from NYC).

        Secondly, if you read back on my posts, you’ll see that I have been FOR what current management has been doing (tanking). I think that’s the right thing to do.

        3) Third, you made some good points about current Philly management moves, but my comments were more of an overview of the entire managment approach to taking unnecessary (and costly) gambles.

        Again, I’m all for what they’re doing building for the future. I’ve said that many times on PBT posts.

    • biasedhomer - Oct 26, 2013 at 7:42 AM

      Yet another bad example of someone who has know idea what they are talking about.

      I mean look at your last point: lack of direction?? You have to be completely blind to not realize the Sixers are clearly planning to tank for at least the next 2 years.

      • redbaronx - Oct 27, 2013 at 11:22 AM

        @biasedhomer – Funny! You’re right. This must have been the plan all along!

  10. abchome - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    I’m glad this farce is finally over. Hopefully won’t see anything about him again in any NBA site.

  11. kirschmania - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    The guy has a ridiculous amount of talent. He’s a top 10 player in the league if he were normal. Sadly he has a destructive personality and a strong anxiety disorder that will hold him back from ever showing his true potential. Coulda, woulda, shoulda career.

    • detectivejimmymcnulty - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:51 PM

      Top 10 player in the entire league is a stretch. He does have a whole lot of talent though.

    • redbaronx - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

      @kirschmania – You’re right. There’s a lot of talent, but like you said: Coulda, woulda, shoulda, career. John “Hot Plate” Wiliams aka the second coming of Magic Johnson ATE his way out of the NBA with the Wizards (Bullets back then in 88 – 92). Shawn Kemp….that guy had RIDICULOUS talent. Faster than a guard. Blocked shots like he was playing volleyball. Took the Sonics to the Finals vs the Bulls in 96 with Gary Paton. Alcoholic and drank his way out of the NBA. Oliver Miller. Real talented Charles Barkley times 2. Dribble/bang, great passer, soft touch. Another guy who ATE his way out of the NBA. Oh and the ultimate one. Michael Ray Richardson. If you’re not that old, look him up. Another guy who could have been a top 50 NBA player of all time. Kind of like a cross between Isaiah Thomas and MJ. Sad just thinking about him. Lots of wasted talent. Royce doesn’t look like he has the maturity or will to overcome his issues.

    • spursareold - Oct 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM

      He likely had top ten talent for his draft class, but when people argue over whether Wade still belongs in the top 10, this kid isn’t even in the conversation.

  12. brotherlove2012 - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    Finally the joke is over. I was on his side at first, but he showed absolutely no desire to work on his situation. Good riddance.

  13. louhudson23 - Oct 25, 2013 at 3:16 AM

    From what I understand,his primary(but not sole) issue is air travel. What I have never understood is why his actual basketball playing never seemed to be up to par,nor did that fact seem to bother him. I realize playing at an NBA level requires NBA level competition. But there is always a game to be found somewhere,playing as much as possible(daily) and working to be in great shape does not require an airplane. Again,I understand that does not make you NBA game ready. But he always looked rusty and out of shape. No one can make it being rusty and out of shape.

    • spursareold - Oct 25, 2013 at 10:44 AM

      I think the air travel is AN issue, but I think THE issue is that he’s always been able to pull the strings and do only what he wanted to do based on his talent. There are a TON of talented guys who want to play in the NBA. He’s just one more guy, and I don’t think that has sunk in just yet. If it ever does, he could range from high quality starter to borderline All Star, depending on where he landed. I’m not holding my breath, though. Plenty of guys with talent bust out of this league every year.

  14. spursareold - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    I think by virtue of him being cut by the Sixers, he goes to their Delaware affiliate in the d-league. I’m guessing he could be had in trade by another d-league team though. If they still had plans for him, they could have just sent him down, instead of paying him $1.7M to essentially just go away.

  15. realballer80 - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    “White was the No. 22 pick of the Houston Rockets in 2012,” Please do the simple research to see he was picked 16 overall…

    • spursareold - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM

      It’s…Kurt.

  16. southbeachtalent - Oct 25, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Why would any NBA team consider a guy that has a phobia of flying??

    • eugenesaxe1 - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM

      Phobias can be overcome, if one is willing to work on it. He seems more interested in “Woe is me” attention-seeking.

  17. cantonbound13 - Oct 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    At least they’re not still paying Bynum.

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