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Garnett fires back at LeBron, says to mind his own business

Oct 18, 2013, 10:50 AM EDT

Kevin Garnett AP

We may actually have a little Heat/Nets rivalry brewing.

Preseason talk matters usually matters about as much as preseason games, but the tension built up in years past between LeBron James and Kevin Garnett as led to a few shots across the bow this preseason. That could lead to some actual drama during the regular season — something we all could use.

It started with LeBron pointing out that Garnett turned his back on Ray Allen when Allen bolted Boston for Miami, then a year later KG waived his no trade clause to get out of town. From where LeBron sits, it smells a lot like hypocrisy.

Here’s Garnett’s response (via ESPN).

“Tell LeBron to worry about Miami,” Garnett said. “He has nothing to do with Celtic business.”

Well, neither does Garnett anymore, but that’s another discussion for another day.

Players and teams can kind of go through the motions during the regular season and the Heat are one of the worst offenders — they coasted through the first half of last season. Anything that adds a little drama, anything that gets teams to focus during the grind of the regular season is good with me.

The Heat/Nets regular season games should be fun.

  1. rodge1 - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    KG is a hypocrite and a P.O.S.

    • mydoghasfleez - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:58 AM

      Amen

      • nygrwy - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM

        Wow a lot of Nets fans here. So many thumbs down to one of the biggest POS to play the game. I rarely agree with Lebron but he is right. KG brought is public so why can’t anyone comment on it.

      • fanofthegame79 - Oct 18, 2013 at 9:48 PM

        Double Amen. KG is a punk and has been since he joined the Celtics. He didn’t play mad in Minnesota – he was part of the “fun crew”. Besides, last I checked, KG plays for the Nets…he waived his no-trade clause (one of only a handful of players to have one), and left Boston; he has nothing to do with Celtic business either.

    • 00maltliquor - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM

      Double amen!

      Little puss can dish it out but he can’t take it. FOH KG.

    • ausar02 - Oct 18, 2013 at 8:55 PM

      I don’t mind the negative comment towards KG, but I need reasoning. Specifically why is he a hypocrite?

      • fanofthegame79 - Oct 18, 2013 at 9:51 PM

        He’s a hypocrite because he bagged on Ray Allen for leaving last year when he left, just the same. He waived a no-trade clause; where at least Allen had fulfilled his contractual obligation to the Celtics when he decided to join the Heat. That should sum it up.

    • jjordannba - Oct 18, 2013 at 9:33 PM

      Yall are not bright at all, or just not informed. If you read up or did some research yall would know the situation but yall obviously don’t. KG did not want to be traded he said he doesn’t like change. He did not want it to go down. Paul Pierce said he had to call him to convince him to waive the no trade clause. Pierce knew he was going to be pushed out either way so he wanted KG with him. He said they talked on the phone for hours before he finally convinced KG to waive the clause. Pierce said he went outside when he made the phone call and it had taken so long that by the time he was finished his shirt was soaked in sweat from the heat by the time the call was finished.

      They were kind of pushed out they knew the C’s wanted to go in a different direction and were loyal by helping the Celtics make the deal and Ainge also helped them by sending them to a team they can compete on instead of a bad team. Both sides showed loyalty.

      • jlmusic1469 - Oct 20, 2013 at 12:38 AM

        Amen… Good to know someone else out here is not just popping crap from their mouth. I’d bet they still don’t understand a word you said.

  2. nycalldayz - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    I have to give Lebron some credit, dude needs to open a public relations firm because he got guys like Hurt Helin and others to bite right away on his comments about KG and PP. Though the difference was Ray Allen was a free agent, took less money to play with Miami. Pierce and Garnett were traded because the Celtics wanted to rebuild, but that’s for another day.

    Lebron was just stirring the pot, and most of these idiots in the media fell for the bait. How many people watched MIA/BK last night? A lot I’m sure. Got all the major media outlets talking about James/Wade/Pierce/Garnett for 72 hrs.

    • Kurt Helin - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:51 PM

      Again, Garnett had to waive a no-trade clause, Pierce had leverage as the face of the team, they could have pushed to stay (KG could have stayed), they could have retired, they had options. It’s not the same as Allen, but to suggest PP and KG were loyal to the Celtics is something only a person wearing green goggles would say.

      • cruzan80 - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:50 PM

        Kurt…stop it. The situations were 100% different & you know. LBJ is talking out the side of his mouth right now & KG is right to tell him to mind his business. Ray Allen, less than two months after they (the Celtics) just went 7 games against the Heat…LEFT….BY CHOICE…TO THE HEAT! I don’t even believe that they are upset about him leaving the Celtics…..but to go to the Heat…that was shady. KG & Pierce on the other hand were basically forced out. Coach is gone, one of their key players (Ray Allen) bolted the year before and another (Rondo)is gonna be out for half of the next season. They got traded because Ainge decided that the run is now up. Their loyalty wasn’t to the “Celtics”….it was to their team that they assembled in 2008. Doc, Allen, KG & Rondo. Ray Allen told them last summer to go fly a kite & kick rocks with open toe shoes. He LEFT the guys he won that chip with….that’s the difference. Who did KG & Pierce leave behind??? Allen is 100% entitled to go wherever he wanted….BUT…those boys he left in Boston were also 100% right to be salty about it.

      • savvybynature - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM

        But if the Celtics wanted to move on and rebuild, wouldn’t the loyal thing to do be to grant them their wish by waiving the no-trade clause?
        Yeah, they could have retired as you said, but then the Celtics would get nothing back.

      • pmick999 - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:37 PM

        Pierce would have been cut if not traded. they would not have paid him that salary. there was no way he was playing with Boston this season. You might have an argument with KG, but again, the team I think was pretty clear they were going on a youth movement, and he would not be with the team this year so I don’t believe he had any leverage to stay. He could have retired but he chose to try for another title,so there you might have a slim argument there, but I still think it is a stretch to compare to Allen leaving which he had every right to do. I do think it is funny though when Helin calls someone out for team colored glasses though.

      • Kurt Helin - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM

        For clarification, you cannot cut a player in the NBA and not pay them, contracts are guaranteed. You can trade but you have to match salaries (within a range).

      • detectivejimmymcnulty - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

        For clarification, you cannot cut a player in the NBA and not pay them, contracts are guaranteed. You can trade but you have to match salaries (within a range).

        Unfortunately Kurt facts don’t change people’s opinions more often than not when they have their mind made up about one of their favorite teams or players.

      • terpincod - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

        For clarification, Paul Pierce’s contract was partially guaranteed for $5MM and Celtics considered this option to save money

      • fanofthegame79 - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:05 PM

        And what about Doc Rivers? No one seems to bring him up, but he wanted out of his contract, too. He didn’t want to “rebuild”. And let’s not forget that KG wanted to originally go to the Clippers. … About Allen going to the Heat after going 7 games. Would anyone have batted an eye if he went to the 76ers when they just took the Celtics to 7 games? No. It’s all because it’s the Heat and LeBron and The Big Three and Not one, not two… That’s why. The Celtics could have blown up this team last year or the year before that because they were old. We can revise history as we like because they ended up doing well in the Playoffs, but we can’t say the Celtics wouldn’t have been good in the Playoffs this year. Bottom line, KG waived a no-trade clause because he didn’t want to rebuild; would have done it for the Clippers and ended up doing it for the Nets. PP could have retired (how much does he have left in the tank?). Finally, why doesn’t anyone ever question franchises for seemingly ridding themselves of career-long players?

      • gmsingh123 - Oct 19, 2013 at 11:41 AM

        You guys seem to keep leaving out how much the players loved playing for Doc Rivers. Once Doc left KG waiving his no trade clause was OBVIOUS.

      • jlmusic1469 - Oct 20, 2013 at 12:42 AM

        You’re a idiot… this push out the door began almost 3 years ago. The Celtics were not going to keep them around another year no matter how much Paul/KG pushed. they were afraid of the Larry/Kevin/Robert repeat — which really was Panic and a bad decision.

        You really should do your research…

  3. leoimpr - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Garnett is talking now, after a meaningless gamein which they beat the Heat 13 to 19 players.

  4. ProBasketballPundit - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    “Shots across the bow”? I’m glad 18th century pirate lingo is still fashionable.

  5. leoimpr - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    There are two players I really hate because they are dirty and PUNKS, Garnett and Pierce. I would trade winning a third championship with the Heat with beating the s h i t out of the dirty old NETS.

  6. kingwithringz - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    The Celtics had so much to say about MIA last year.

  7. stephenolszewski - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    As annoying this might be, The NBA needs more heated rivalries (no pun intended) just makes the game that much more exciting in my opinion

  8. mornelithe - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Why is noone pointing out that Garnett and Pierce were traded, and Allen left via free agency? Granted, they’re ‘somewhat’ similar situations, but there are some distinct differences here.

    • 00maltliquor - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:09 PM

      Garnett had to waive his no trade clause just so he could get traded. Thats the same as saying, get me outta here. What do you not get?

  9. dls612 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    KG is like that dog that always run up to the gate barking and acting mean but soon as that gate opens up he’s running and hiding!

  10. eagles512 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Garnett is a phony. I’ll be rooting for the Heat to knock the Nets out of the playoffs.

  11. Anoesis - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    A year ago the Celtics thought they had a shot to go deep in the playoffs and Allen bailed on them. If his move was because he’s prescient perhaps a career in prognosticating awaits him in retirement. Stock market? Politics?

    This off-season the Celtics went into full rebuilding mode, shedding a coach and two aging, expensive stars. There’s your difference in the two situations.

    Garnett and Pierce thought Allen was a traitor for splitting. Allen did what he felt was best for him. James chiming in isn’t necessary as I’m sure Allen can defend himself just fine. Indeed, Allen hasn’t legitimized the ex-Celtics argument by saying anything about it of which I’m aware.

    At least the guy who bailed on Cleveland is being consistent in attempting to defend Allen.

  12. jnoah13 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Why do you think Garnett has mastered the turnaround fadeaway? He’s a pansy. He’s never gotten in a scrum with anybody his size, he’s too skinny. Then he gets away with leaning in on screens all of the time. I think he’s an idiot.

    • ceosmind443 - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM

      I strongly disagree….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrfLiFibJG4

  13. ceosmind443 - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    And just in case you missed it,,,,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrfLiFibJG4

    How soon they forget KG

    • kinggw - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM

      You just proved jnoah13’s point. In that clip Garnett slapped Duncan while his back is turned to him. Classic coward move.

  14. pistolpete0903 - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    So I take it that all the Heat vs Nets games will be on national TV now.
    How I wish Artest….err World Peace was on one of those teams.

    • detectivejimmymcnulty - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

      Don’t count out Beasley from doing something insane. No one has ever used the term “mentally stable” to describe Beasley.

      • pistolpete0903 - Oct 19, 2013 at 1:50 AM

        As much as I would want to agree with that comment, Beasley lacks history of doing something insane. Keeping my fingers crossed on him trying to prove me wrong!!!

  15. antistratfordian - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    We may actually have a little Heat/Nets rivalry brewing.

    May have? That was absolutely the case when Garnett, Pierce and Terry signed. There was already kind of a beef between them last year because of Reggie Evans. It’s just going to get more entertaining now.

  16. ialto85 - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Kevin Garnott is like school on a saturday: no class

  17. fpstratton - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    This, like so many items making news these days, is really much ado about nothing. Who really cares what they both have to say? They are paid to entertain us by playing basketball. Neither individual is really that quoteworthy anyway. Play ball and let your game do the talking.

  18. chiadam - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    I smell a tickle fight!

  19. fotydaze - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Lebron is the LAST person that should comment on someone turning their back. He turned his back on his home town to easy way his way to a ring. Hush up Son!!!

    • detectivejimmymcnulty - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

      He didn’t have a teammate leave and then call them out for doing so and then leave. The problem isn’t KG left the C’s, it’s that he called out Allen for leaving and then left himself.

      • ProBasketballPundit - Oct 18, 2013 at 9:26 PM

        Great job of refuting foty’s silly comment. Also, great user name. OH SH** it’s Omar!

    • antistratfordian - Oct 18, 2013 at 6:59 PM

      LeBron and Wade were criticizing KG for being so harsh on Allen – following that with “I bleed green, I die green” and “I’m going to retire a Celtic” – then following THAT with waiving his no-trade clause so he can go to the Nets.

      Cmon. Even Benedict Arnold is free to criticize KG for that.

  20. jbeagles23 - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Unfortunately a good rivalry is only worth watching when both teams are quality. The nets are a 5 to 8 seed in the east. They’ll win the season series against the heat an bang their chest like Boston two years ago then the Knicks last year and get beat in the playoffs The heat are only looking over their shoulders at the pacers. Not a washed up Garnett and peirce

  21. chicagofan - Oct 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Kurt, KG and PP departures are quite different from Ray Allen in that the Celtics got some assets from their leaving and nothing for Ray except a tougher opponent in Miami. PP would have been bought out for 5million (he was not worth wasting 15m on him) and KG had threatened to retire if Doc and PP left. By agreeing to the trade he did help the Celtics future position which Ray’s leaving did not. The Celtics got draft picks, expiring contracts and some decent role players from KG/PP and Doc leaving and a net win for the Celts vs the other likely outcomes. .

  22. thomasmorelancaster - Oct 18, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    I have been reading ProBasketballTalk for a couple years now and the one main bias I have noticed with Kurt Helin have been his dislike of the KG and Paul Pierce era Celtics. Anything regarding the KG and Paul Pierce era Celtics from him should be taken with a grain of salt.

  23. ProBasketballPundit - Oct 18, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    What a terrible come back. That’s like a kid calling a fat kid fat and the fat kid goes, “NUH UH!”

    • jlmusic1469 - Oct 20, 2013 at 12:34 AM

      No that was a Man trying not to be petty just to satisfy knuckleheads… looking for entertainment through other’s lives!

  24. jlmusic1469 - Oct 20, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    Lets get this straight for all you uninformed people out there. Lebron makes many comments like anyone else some good and some not so good. This was another ill advised decision to speak on this. Why?
    1. Ray Allen was a free agent and although he was given a good contract, however, chasing that ring which worked out for him was his reason. He didn’t need to run as much to get free.
    2. Paul and Kevin were about to be let go. they wanted to remain with the Celtics. However, the Celtics gm Danny and the organization were ready to move on. Although KG had the right to refuse it didn’t make sense to stay where you not wanted and deciding to move with Paul and Jason to another team with a good crop of veterans and youth…. Why Not!

    Bottom line they didn’t have a choice and there was no ahhhhh “decision”! PAY ATTENTION…
    And those ESPN guys giving Lebron the thumbs up on that… I wonder… how many can swing on LJ’s jockstrap before it pops!

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