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Kevin Durant says Dwyane Wade is no longer a top-10 NBA player, Wade responds

Sep 25, 2013, 12:02 AM EDT

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Kevin Durant did a media tour promoting the work he’s doing with one of his sponsors, and any time you’re in front of the camera for that long answering a seemingly endless stream of questions, you’re bound to say something that could be construed as an insult by someone who may be looking for some external motivation.

Dwyane Wade has won a Finals MVP award during his 10-year NBA career, and is now a three-time champion. He’s achieved plenty, but athletes who perform at the highest level are constantly looking for perceived slights to use as fuel for their competitive fire, and it looks like Durant may have unintentionally provided that with one of his recent comments.

In an interview with CineSport’s Noah Coslov, Durant was asked about Sports Illustrated’s top 10 list, which included Wade. Durant was asked if anyone was missing from the list.

“I think you’re missing James Harden,” he said.

The follow-up question, of course, asked who comes off of that list if you’re putting Harden onto it.

“Dwyane Wade,” Durant said, almost before the question was finished.

Wade got wind of the comment, and posted the following motivational message to his Instagram page.

Durant quickly responded 12 minutes later.

Now, this is obviously awesome if it’s not some type of contrived marketing ploy to draw fans in to a beef that isn’t real. It’s worth noting that Wade and Durant were featured together in a popular Gatorade commercial last season, but perhaps equally important is the memory of Durant trash-talking Wade during the 2012 NBA Finals.

Durant comes across as sincere in the interview, however, and it doesn’t seem like something that was previously set up. Assuming this is all genuine, it intensifies the feelings between two of the league’s best teams, and two of its biggest stars.

The Heat and the Thunder meet for the first time during the upcoming season on January 29 in Miami.

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  1. genericcommenter - Sep 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Wade was #7 last year and #7 ALL-TIME in PER. He was “only” #13 in Win Shares. Congratulations to Harden- he now has 1 season that would rank in Wade’s top 5.

  2. tampajoey - Sep 25, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Wade is Broken down old man Past his prime. Time for “World of Washed-Up” to retire.

    Harden is a Present & Future stud.

    Today’s Wade is garbage riding Lebron’s coattail.

    Kevin Durant is 100% correct.

    • ironman682 - Sep 25, 2013 at 10:15 AM

      As the says goes, Work Smarter Not Harder, when he was at his prime he took all the hit and won a championship ring with MVP, and now that he is fading under the sun Wade was smart enough to sacrifice to win two More with LBJ and C. Bosh, Non of the other two LBJ and bosh hard rings as super stars on their teams until they joined forces so KD can Never win a ring by himself.

      I am a heat fan and LBJ is my best Player, but although LBJ is an all round player than M.J I will still pick MJ Over him at this moment until he wins two more rings.

      Bottom line is, there is nothing that KD can teach D-Wade, but rather learn a lot from Wade if he really wants to win a ring.
      Trash talking without a ring is like an EMPTY BARREL MAKING THE MOST NOISE.

      • adamsjohn714 - Sep 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM

        I’m not sure I get your simile. Do full barrels make a lot of noise traditionally?

  3. money2long - Sep 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    can we just let kobe settle the debate.
    mamba wisdom

  4. cruzan80 - Sep 25, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Durants is right…..

  5. cruzan80 - Sep 25, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    Durant is right….

    • ironman682 - Sep 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM

      KD might be right but at the same time KD IS LIKE AN EMPTY BARREL MAKING NOISE. He has ZERO RING, ZERO MVP.

      • cruzan80 - Sep 25, 2013 at 10:54 AM

        What does rings have to do with being a top player in the league THIS year??? So if Robert Horry came outta retirement this season he’s #7 on the list….right? It isn’t a life time achievement list…it’s a top players in the league THIS SEASON list & Wade simply isn’t that anymore. Melo, Curry, & Harden are all better than him TODAY & by the end of this season you can probably add Lillard, George & Irving too.

      • sk1llz187 - Sep 26, 2013 at 1:50 PM

        WADE LED HIS SQUAD TO A RING
        ON THE OTHER HAND ROBERT HORRY DIDNT LEAD JACK

    • ironman682 - Sep 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM

      @CRUZAN80 if rings got nothing to do with history why did you Mention Big Shots name, it is in the NBA Book of records that Robert got those rings and made some last minute shots that made his team won the championship, just like Chris Bosh and Ray Allen last Minute effort advance the heat to game 7. It is team work.

      My point is as a rising star I will not make such a comment to an all Time NBA Super star. It was not a smart move. At the end of the day Non of this players in the top ten don,t care about their stats. until they win a championship.

      Do you think these players are better off been in the top 10 when they get send home in the beginning or end of the playoffs?
      Ask KD Himself, Melo, D12, C. Paul and even Charles Barkley if he is happy as a H.O.F without a ring, So KD got nothing on D-Wade, but D-Wade got his numbers and rings.

      • cruzan80 - Sep 25, 2013 at 1:49 PM

        I mentioned Horry to make the point that rings have more to do with the team rather than how good one individual player on that team is/was. Again, the list was who are the top players in the league….he does not believe that Wade is a top player in the league today & I agree. If your only argument to that is “Well Wade has rings & he doesn’t!” My response to you would be…..just wait. Durants comment wasn’t about whatever past success of the teams Wade’s been a part of…..its on Wade himself as a player & more importantly how he stacks up against other players on this list. Put it this way….in these past playoffs….who do you think LBJ would have chosen to have on the court with him if he had a choice…Wade or Harden….honestly.

      • gofinsgoheatfloria - Sep 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM

        “who do you think LBJ would have chosen to have on the court with him if he had a choice…Wade or Harden….honestly.”

        Based on the previous playoffs: Harden, of course.

        oh, you mean on the same team…

  6. ironman682 - Sep 25, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    As the says goes, Work Smarter Not Harder, when he was at his prime he took all the hit and won a championship ring with MVP, and now that he is fading under the sun Wade was smart enough to sacrifice to win two More with LBJ and C. Bosh, Non of the other two LBJ and bosh hard rings as super stars on their teams until they joined forces so KD can Never win a ring by himself.

    I am a heat fan and LBJ is my best Player, but although LBJ is an all round player than M.J I will still pick MJ Over him at this moment until he wins two more rings.

    Bottom line is, there is nothing that KD can teach D-Wade, but rather learn a lot from Wade if he really wants to win a ring.
    Trash talking without a ring is like an EMPTY BARREL MAKING THE MOST NOISE.

    • youngkay60 - Sep 25, 2013 at 11:07 AM

      Now all the Miami heat bandwagoners hoppin on this lol wade needed help to get rings n the help he got was never drafted by the heat they always had help from someone that came over from another team for example shaq n payton both from the lakers local n now dwade has lebron n bosh n what did they do to get them destroy two other franchises lol n most of y’all didn’t ho. on the bandwagon til the 2nd championship just Dick riding to be apart of one of the worse teams to be on

    • antistratfordian - Sep 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM

      “Trash talking without a ring is like an EMPTY BARREL MAKING THE MOST NOISE.”

      Bravo.

  7. phillyphil005 - Sep 25, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    The best way to trash talk a player is to beat him in the finals with baskets, whether Wade won with Shaq or LBJ is a team work, it was not one-on- one game. Make him respect you place in history by winning a ring, just like haters were trash talking LBJ until he win rings he is nothing.

    KD I Bet If you hard or have Wade on your team, I bet you will be walking with a ring on your finger

    Sorry, Ironman…KD having Wade at this point wouldn’t bring him any closer to winning a ring.

    KD not getting a ring had zero to do with teamwork and respecting the greats…it was that LBJ was too good, and that Battier and Miller were unconscious from three point range, while James Harden vanished. KD toyed with Wade in the Finals…this is fact.

    KD is the epitome of a team player and a humble guy. He was just being straight up honest when asked a question.

    What he said was the truth, and SI got it wrong by putting Wade in their top ten players.

    • ironman682 - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

      I never mention KD Not been a team player or not humble but it is what it is, until he proof,s just like the same standard when D-Wade was in his prime, just like LBJ and everybody was on his back. I will rather make a smart comment. At this moment there is NO Guarantee that KD Will even win a ring as well as D-Wade winning another ring before retiring but we KNOW FOR SURE That D-Wade got his.

      So Help me out Phillyp. Would you rather prefer KD as a H.O.F in the top 10 with ZERO RINGS? Please as Charles Barkley if he is 100% happy been a H.O.F with NO RINGS. Do you see how the other guys teases him?

      Wade need not to proof nothing at this time of his career but KD Have a lot to proof and comments like this put him out there and brings frustration on him. So my point is it was not a wise to throw rocks at a H.O.F Who got what you don’t have and you struggling to get to, it was a wrong move.
      Ask T-Mac how it feels and I don’t want KD in that boat. KD Cannot even tell Haslem about how to win championship period until he figures that out top 10 is nothing.

  8. tampajoey - Sep 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Someone get “World of Washed-Up” (aka Robin) a wheelchair and put him out to pasture.

  9. treyokc - Sep 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    KD is correct at this moment in history. Wade WAS a top ten player a few years ago and is definitely a Hall of Famer. I give KD props for basically calling out the Heat because it’s not like their going to play one on one. KD is simply tired of hearing about these dudes and I understand because as hard as I try not to hate, the heat are buying their championships as oppose to the old school method of building teams without having a bunch of superstars on one squad. His job now is to shut the Heat talk up by beating them and I think if Westbrook is healthy, they may very well have the squad to do it if Jackson, Lamb and those other youngins step up. That very well could happen and it very well could not. KD is ready to win and I personally thinks he’s going to be doing the “showing” th. .is year

  10. ironman682 - Sep 25, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Do you think these players are better off been in the top 10 when they get send home in the beginning or end of the playoffs?
    Ask KD Himself, Melo, D12, C. Paul and even Charles Barkley if he is happy as a H.O.F without a ring, So KD got nothing on D-Wade, but D-Wade got his numbers and rings.

  11. norcalkingsfan - Sep 25, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    10 players I’d rather have on my franchise.

    Kyrie Irving
    Marc Gasol
    Derrick Rose
    Lebron James
    Kevin Durant
    James Harden
    Steph Curry
    Chris Paul
    Paul George
    Russell Westbrook

    Here are some other players that I would consider a franchise upgrade, considering Wade’s rapidly declining health.

    Kevin Love
    Dwight Howard
    Carmelo Anthony
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    Demarcus Cousins
    Damian Lillard
    Anthony Davis
    John Wall

    I don’t know where to throw Tim Duncan in there because he is old as dirt in NBA years, but I’d still rather have Duncan as well.

    Find all the “motivation” you want Dwayne, those knees need more than motivation to keep you in the top 10.

    Quick, name the first / last / or any time that DW has played a full season. Go check his yearly game counts. You don’t want to see the condition DW would be in if he didn’t have Lebron and Bosh to fall back on the last few years.

    • skids003 - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

      About the only thing Dwayne Wade is in the top 10 is Biggest Ego. He;s not near as good as he thinks he is. I used to like him but that head has swollen.

    • ironman682 - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      Good, but remember that Tim, D-Wade, LBJ can retire now as H.O.F with Championship Rings and MVP Trophies. So you to say you don’t know where to throw Tim is a little disrespectful. other than Wade and LBJ THE REST ARE ALL QUESTION MARK PLAYERS.

    • ghelton03 - Sep 26, 2013 at 12:17 AM

      I don’t necessarily agree with your list, but agree that D-Wade is not in it.

  12. miamatt - Sep 25, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    #1 Neither Kevin Durant nor James Harden have yet had a career that in any way can be compared to Dwayne Wade’s.

    #2 Even if we humor Kevin Durant and put James Harden into the top 10, it’s obvious that Dwight Howard is the one Harden replaces… I’m sure KD didn’t want to insult Harden by taking a shot at his new teammate.

    Call me a homer all you want, but I love when Dwayne Wade gets dirt shoveled on him. I think we are all in for a emphatic reminder on who the best 2-guard in the NBA is this season.

    • norcalkingsfan - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM

      The article is not about better careers….

      It’s about holding your own in TODAYS’s game, not yesteryear.

      • miamatt - Sep 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM

        Believe me, none of that is lost on me. Wade was the best 2-guard in the league last year, and I’d bet he will be again this year. Those who payed close attention last year know that Dwayne Wade had one of the best regular seasons of his career last year. He shot a career high FG%, and was one of only a handful of shooting guards (I believe Harden and Bryant were the other two) to average 20+5+5. Was he banged up in the playoffs? Sure, but he saved Miami’s bacon with a dominant performance in game 4 of the finals that would have all but eliminated the Heat, and came up with a huge 23+7 in the deciding game 7. And contrary to popular belief, those were not the only two games he “showed up” in the playoffs.

        Whether you are talking a one game, one series, or one year scenario, I’m taking D-Wade, not only in yesteryear, but TODAY. Harden’s time is coming, but it hasn’t arrived just yet.

    • ironman682 - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      Yep, no need for D-Wade to proof nothing to KD, rather KD GOT A LOT TO PROOF

    • gostlcards5 - Sep 25, 2013 at 1:33 PM

      I don’t disagree with your sentiment, and clearly DWade was the best 2 in the league a few years ago. I just don’t think he can keep up your “emphatic reminder” night-in-night-out anymore. He’s more of an “I ain’t as good as I once was…” player on the nightly basis.

      If Danny Granger is able to start for Indy, the best 2-guard in the league this year might just be Paul George.

  13. yuwannano - Sep 25, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    [Show me don’t tweet me..]

    Internet tough guy. “Come at me bro…” Gotta love Twitter.

  14. ironman682 - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Haahaaaaaaaaaaaa, KD did you mean D-Wade needs to show you how to win championship? then you are right but other than that, been in the top ten with ZERO RINGS AND MVP is not how you want to enter the H.O.F in the future and D-Wade is not worried about that and top 10.

  15. themagicfanguy - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Lmao look at all the fake wannabe Heat fans trying to defend crybaby Wade! The dude has done nothing but ride other great players his whole career, and that’s when he’s not sitting on the bench in a suit. What a coincidence that when there was no Shaq or LBJ on the Heat he couldn’t take them anywhere…

    • daddyb1gdrawz - Sep 26, 2013 at 12:21 AM

      Last I checked LBJ did not win a title without Bosh or Wade. Now you can try and make the case Wade needed Shaq but if you look at that Dallas series Wade was the reason they won. He was a one man show. Hell, ask Mark Cuban what happened in that series and he will tell you Wade happened. Not only that but if you check the history, you will find Mourning had more of an impact on that series. Stop hating to hate do your homework. But I do not believe Wade is a Top 10 player. His health is the cause for it.

  16. SooperflySnuka - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Publicity stunt. Watch for more Wade/Durant commercials…

  17. jetslakersfan - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    KD is right he is no longer a top 10 player. All u people taken up for him much not watch the NBA.

  18. jonathonvirgen - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Top 10 players in the NBA are just all a matter of opinion. My top 10 probably include people that you don’t have, but honestly players between 7-15 could probably be interchangable depending on your opinion

  19. jonathonvirgen - Sep 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Top 10 players in the NBA are just all a matter of opinion. My top 10 probably include people that you don’t have, but honestly players between 7-15 could probably be interchangeable depending on your opinion

  20. cantonbound13 - Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Durant is very perceptive & knowledgeable. Diva Wade could never carry a team like Kevin.

    • antistratfordian - Sep 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM

      Greatest NBA Finals Performances – ESPN:

      1. Dwyane Wade, Miami, 2006
      2. Michael Jordan, Chicago, 1998
      3. Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 2003
      4. Michael Jordan, Chicago, 1997
      5. Hakeem Olajuwon, Houston, 1994

      I don’t see KD’s name on this list.

      • cantonbound13 - Sep 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM

        #1 Wade???? Really? All he did was shoot free throws thanks to the Donoghey scandal.

    • gofinsgoheatfloria - Sep 26, 2013 at 8:57 AM

      What’s so bizarre about this whole thing is that Durant, who could *not* carry OKC through the 2012 Finals in the face of Harden’s disappearing act, should now be touting the same Harden for a top-10 list. If this is testimony to a really remarkable ability to forgive and forget, then bravo Kevin, but, like others, I’m not even sure this whole thing is for real. Those commercials were clever and memorable – why not lay the groundwork for a follow-up? Getting buzz going about nothing is what Madison Avenue does so well – maybe that’s what we’re seeing (and falling in with).

      • cantonbound13 - Sep 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM

        Nobody remembers that Harden was playing hurt in those Finals.

  21. antistratfordian - Sep 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    KD is confused. The issue isn’t Wade and Harden, it’s Kobe and Harden.

    The Sports Illustrated ranking even points this out directly – that perhaps Harden should replace Kobe due to Kobe’s 1 achilles situation. But they didn’t do that out of respect for Bryant and because Harden has so little experience and even less accomplishments. They had no problem moving Wade ahead of Kobe as Wade is a 9-time All-Star, 3-time champion and Finals MVP.

  22. jimmymarlinsfan - Sep 25, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Durante strikes me as an internet tough guy. That is to say, not tough at all. Kd should prove he can win a ring on his own or shut the hell up

    • cantonbound13 - Sep 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

      Maybe he should do it the cowardly southbeach way & try to team up with 2 other all stars as he realizes he can’t carry a team to the championship? Maybe LeBron can show him the right PED’s to use also.

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Sep 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM

        When all else fails…and in this case…the Knicks….say the other team cheated…you are pathetic.

      • cantonbound13 - Sep 26, 2013 at 10:41 AM

        I can’t root for cowardly players. Someone like you, a coward, has no issue with that. Maybe this time you won’t disappear when your team is trailing in a series.

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Sep 26, 2013 at 11:22 AM

        Takes a big man to talk tough on the internet. Pathetic

      • jimeejohnson - Sep 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM

        There’s no bigger coward than you, hateful loser. You never show up on a blog about your own team, the Knicks, but instead look to hate on the two time defending champions and the best basketball player in the world.

      • cantonbound13 - Sep 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

        Always talk about the Knicks, moron! Not like you who disappears after game 5 of the Finals with his “team” down 3-2. You’re the last one that should be calling anyone a coward. Fairweather bandwagoner!

      • antistratfordian - Sep 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM

        PEDs couldn’t fix Durant’s main problem anyway… his brain. No amount of HGH will bless Durant with LeBron’s legendary basketball IQ.

  23. otisls - Sep 26, 2013 at 5:35 AM

    Dwayne Wade (three NBA Championship rings), Kevin Durant (zero);

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