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Updated: Bulls’ Luol Deng’s agent says All-Star will become free agent next summer

Sep 10, 2013, 3:32 PM EST

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We passed along word last night from our man Aggrey Sam at CSNChicago.com that talks between Luol Deng and the Chicago Bulls on a contract extension had broken down.

Now the Chicago Tribune is reporting the Bulls have told Deng the talks are tabled until after the season so Deng’s agent says the All-Star forward will be a free agent summer.

The agent for Luol Deng said Tuesday that the two-time All-Star forward would “certainly visit free agency” next summer after being informed by Bulls management that contract extension talks would be tabled until after the 2013-14 season.

“Luol has taken the position that he will definitely go through the free-agent process,” said Herb Rudoy, Deng’s Chicago-based agent.

Deng will be in the second tier of free agents next summer — he’s no LeBron James, but he would be in the mix with potential free agents such as Zach Randolph, Danny Granger and other eight-figure salary guys. There will be demand and he will make $10 million or more a year, most likely. Even in the world of the new CBA.

The Bulls might try to re-sign him, or they could let him walk, amnesty Carlos Boozer and go after another star they think is a better fit with Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah (who have longer term contracts). The Bulls have options.

But it’s pretty clear they plan to rebuild key parts of the roster next summer.

  1. crazycane - Sep 10, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Pretty pathetic on the Bulls execs that everyone except them knew Deng wouldn’t take the pay cut they wanted him too in order to get Rose reliable and better help. Gar/Pax sucks as a team and if it weren’t for Rose landing on their lap they would’ve been fired a long time ago.

    • stayhigh_247 - Sep 10, 2013 at 5:43 PM

      I hear you but, they did hire Thibs. And that was a great decision. I think they are going to run Thibs off at some point and I think Rose will bolt soon after.

      • gmsingh123 - Sep 13, 2013 at 8:25 AM

        Paxson was a cool guy when he played with the Bulls and then when he went to the front office he went insane. He thought Scott Skiles was the way to go “whipping the team into shape.” That worked out well. And then Vinny Del Negro had to blackmail him into getting him another job because he was such a jerk. Gar Forman was hired as a shield for Pax, but doesn’t make up for Pax being nuts. The sad thing is they are so close to having a team that can go all the way but seem to be consistently unable to take the next step.

  2. asublimeday - Sep 10, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    “If’s” and predictions based on nothing are what the two of you are leaning on. Solid arguments..

  3. suckit619 - Sep 10, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    I’m a Bulls fan and I like Deng, but if he is asking for too much $ then I wouldn’t mind if he went out and tried to get paid. If someone pays him, good for him. If not, he’ll come back at a discount…

    If he were to leave I think Jimmy Butler (and eventually Tony Snell) is fully capable of filling his shoes…

    • zoomy123 - Sep 10, 2013 at 10:14 PM

      Except he’s not asking for too much money. Based on what Andre Iguodala received from Golden State ($12 M/per year) that’s about what Deng’s market value is. The Bulls want Deng to take below his market value so they can continue to add pieces for a title contending team.

      • adamsjohn714 - Sep 11, 2013 at 4:32 AM

        Deng isn’t worth what Igoudala is worth. He’s not as good. Deng is an OK rebounding SF who is inefficient on offense and doesn’t get many blocks or steals defensively. He’s overall just an above average player. Butler is the real value. Try to keep them both, but if you have to choose, go with Butler every time.

      • zoomy123 - Sep 11, 2013 at 6:01 AM

        What are you talking about? Luol Deng averages 1.5 more rebounds per game than Andre Iguodala over his career, and the disparity goes up to 2 in the post-season; 6 rebounds per game isn’t just OK. Deng shoots a lower percentage but averages more points. He averages less assists than Iguodala (about 2 less) but 3 assists per game isn’t bad for a SF on team that has Derrick Rose dominating the ball every possession. And stats on defense aren’t everything, especially on a Bulls team that emphasizes team defense. Deng is an important reason why the Bulls have one of the best defenses in the league. Finally, I didn’t say Deng was worth EXACTLY what Iguodala was worth, I said about the same. So, $10-$12 M, which is what the Bulls are refusing to pay him.

      • bougin89 - Sep 11, 2013 at 9:44 AM

        @adamsjohn their is much more to defense than blocks or steals. Deng is a very good on ball defender. Deng is a very capable offensive player. You can’t disregard that Thibs plays him into the ground almost to a fault while usually guarding the other teams best player. He’s played the most minutes per game of anyone the last two years.

      • adamsjohn714 - Sep 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM

        Blocks and steals are good things. When a player doesn’t get that many of either it’s not a positive thing for his production. I agree that defense is hard to quantify, but I also assert that it is largely a team endeavor, making one player’s loss not that important (except a center) and Butler seems more than capable of being as effective of a defender himself. I doubt Deng is a $10 million a year guy because his offensive game just isn’t that good. He’s had an above average TS% twice in 9 seasons and the last 2 years it’s been quite poor (50% and 50.8%, respectively). He’s an acceptable passer and he doesn’t turn it over that much, but there’s nothing about his game that tells me he’s worth that amount of money.

      • zoomy123 - Sep 11, 2013 at 9:14 PM

        @adamsjohn714

        One of these three things must be true: 1) You don’t know how to evaluate the market value of NBA players; 2) You don’t like Luol Deng; or 3) You’re a Bulls fan trying to justify their decisions. At this point you aren’t even making sense.

        Steals and blocks, by themselves, aren’t a great way to quantify defensive acumen, because they can be deceptive. For example, Tony Allen averaged 1.5 steals per game last season; Andre Iguodala averaged 1.7 steals per game, but no one in their right mind would claim Iguodala is a better defender than Allen. Allen’s defensive rating was 98, Iguodala’s was 105.

        Now, let’s compare Deng’s stats to Iguodala’s:

        eFG%: Deng: .461; Iguodala: .502
        TBR% (total rebounding %): Deng: 9.4; Iguodala: 8.5
        AST%: Deng: 13.2; Iguodala: 22.4
        TOV%: Deng: 10.6; Iguodala: 17.1
        ORtg: Deng: 105; Iguodala: 105
        DRtg: Deng 105: Iguodala: 105
        PER: Deng: 15.12; Iguodala: 15.27

        Going by the advanced stats, Deng and Iguodala are almost identical. Iguodala is slightly more efficient offensively, even though he averages more turnovers and a higher turnover %. Therefore, if Iguodala is worth $12 M/year why isn’t Deng at least worth $10 M? Based on these stats you either have to believe Deng is worth at least $10 M/year or Iguodala is NOT worth $12 M/year. So, which one is it?

      • adamsjohn714 - Sep 11, 2013 at 11:42 PM

        Igoudala Wins Produced: 10.4
        Deng Wins Produced: 7.6 (in 200 more minutes as well).

        I’m sorry if Deng is your guy, but Iguodala and Jimmy Butler are both better.

      • zoomy123 - Sep 12, 2013 at 12:10 AM

        @adamsjohn714

        That’s what your argument comes down to? Iguodala produces 2.8 more wins than Luol Deng, and that’s why he deserves $12 M/year and Deng doesn’t even deserve $10 M/year? LOLOL! First it was, “Deng is not that good and he’s OK at rebounding. He’s not efficient offensively and doesn’t get many blocks or steals.” Then I give you stats showing Deng is a better rebounder than Iguodala, and explained that 3 assists per game is pretty good on a team where 1 person dominates the ball and defensive stats aren’t really that important. Then it was, “Blocks and steals are a good thing. Defense is really about the team and Iguodala has a higher TS%.” Then I give you all the advanced stats showing that Deng and Iguodala have almost identical stats and PER, even though Iguodala is slightly more efficient on offense. And your comeback was, “Iguodala produces 2.8 more wins than Deng.” LOL!

        The ’12-’13 stats from basketball reference:

        DWS (defensive win shares): Deng: 3.3; Iguodala: 3.2
        OWS (offensive win shares): Deng: 3; Iguodala: 2.4
        WS: Deng: 6.3; Iguodala: 5.6
        WS/48: Deng: .105; Iguodala: .097

        So, based on last season’s stats, even though Igudala was slightly more efficiently offensively, both Deng’s offensive and defensive win shares were higher than Iguodala’s. Like I said, going by the stats, Deng and Iguodala are pretty much identical. I won’t even address the stupid idea that Jimmy Butler is better than a two-time All-Star. I’m done with this argument, Deuces.

      • adamsjohn714 - Sep 12, 2013 at 3:22 AM

        deuces zoomy.
        try not to quote PER stuff when you use the word “advanced” anymore.

      • zoomy123 - Sep 12, 2013 at 5:08 AM

        @adamsjohn714

        You’re a retard. There’s no such thing as “PER stuff.” PER is one number; there are no stats or metrics that come under PER. Every number besides the PER were advanced stats from basketball reference. I hope you brought your notebook and pencils because you got thoroughly schooled in this debate. LOL!

    • muhangis - Sep 11, 2013 at 8:36 AM

      Jimmy Butler / Tony Snell?? Near nameless scrubs filling in for starting positions… this team once had championship aspirations.

  4. crazycane - Sep 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    12 mill a year for a player who shoots 42%, scores 16 ppg and leads the league in minutes? No thanks. Deng has reached his cap and will be going downhill from here on out.

  5. glink123 - Sep 12, 2013 at 6:51 AM

    Pwn3d

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