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Three guys to think about for the 2014 Hall of Fame class

Sep 9, 2013, 8:46 AM EDT

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This year it was a strong Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame class — Gary Payton was a lock, Bernard King should have been there long ago, Oscar Schmidt was a given for the international game.

Now, what about next year?

The list is just not as strong, at least not to my eyes. But here are three guys you can make a case for:

Chris Webber. He averaged 20.7 points and 9.8 rebounds a game over a 15 year NBA career. He was the 1994 Rookie of the Year, a five time All-Star, All NBA First Team once (and three more times on the second team). He and the Fab Five had a famed college career that helped change the game, then in the NBA he was a very good player that led some very good Sacramento teams. To me, Webber is not a lock Hall of Famer, and likely doesn’t get in on the first ballot, but he’s a guy with a good enough resume you need to discuss him.

Tim Hardaway. Part of the legendary Run TMC in Golden State, Hardaway is a five-time All Star, a guy who made the All-NBA First Team once and was on the second team three times, plus he averaged 17.7 points and 8.2 assists a game. Like Webber not a lock, but as time moves on (he’s been eligible for a couple years) he looks more and more like a guy who could get in.

Vlade Divac. His NBA numbers are not exactly what gets him into the Hall of Fame (11.8 points and 8.2 rebounds a game), but he did make one All-Star team. Rather, you have to discuss Vlade as a guy on the front end of the influx of European talent that we see now throughout the game. As an international player he is a trendsetter. Also, his flopping and cigarette smoking are legendary.

  1. dezglobal - Sep 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Webber and Hardaway for sure… Divac not so much.

    • asimonetti88 - Sep 9, 2013 at 3:57 PM

      A lot of people selling Divac short. Like it or not (personally I don’t like it), it is the Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall of Fame. Divac is a shoe-in for his contributions to the international game.

  2. jimthebuilder27 - Sep 9, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Hopefully Jerry Krause doesn’t get in.

  3. zickhead - Sep 9, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Yeah Webber and Hardway should get in. Divac probably not as easy but I hope he makes it too.

  4. vi3tguy415 - Sep 9, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    not a lock to get in??? a scrub like chris mullin got in so how can C Webb not? is this a race issue again? so u rather have chris mullin over webber? wowwwww.. i’m still scratching my head. going to get a coffee. omg.

    • borderline1988 - Sep 9, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      If guys like Webber and Haradaway are getting in, then the HOF is getting too easy and is losing its exclusivity.

      These guys were all-star level players no doubt, but HOF?

    • adamsjohn714 - Sep 9, 2013 at 12:51 PM

      well bernard king got in….

    • sportsfan18 - Sep 9, 2013 at 12:51 PM

      Scrub? When reviewing things there isn’t as much difference between these two as you might think.

      Per 36 min’s of court time this is what we get…

      C Webb 20.7 pts per 36 min’s of court time
      C Mullin 20.0 pts per 36 min’s of court time

      It took C Webb 18.1 FG’s per 36 min’s to get his 20.7 pts
      It took C Mullin 14.8 FG’s per 36 min’s to get his 20.0 pts

      C Webb career FG% .479% and he played closer to the bucket than Mullin
      C Mullin career FG% .509%

      C Webb 3 pt % .299%
      C Mullin 3 pt % .384%

      C Webb FT % .649%
      C Mullin FT% .865%

      C Webb true shooting percetange .513%
      C Mullin true shooting percentage .594% (which is very good – Mullin is currently in 23rd place ALL TIME in the NBA on the true shooting percentage list. He’s higher on this list than Kobe Durant, LeBron James, Chris Paul and oh so many others)

      Webber is behind multiple hundreds of players who have played the game in this regard.

      Now C Webb was much better at rebounding, but he did play closer to the basket so that is expected. What isn’t expected is his very low shooting percentage as he played close to the hoop. Many of his rebounds were of his own misses…

      Put it this way, even with Dwight’s terrible free throw shooting, his career true shooting percentage places him 17th all time. The goal is to put the ball through the hoop and C Webb didn’t do that too well… what I mean is that multiple hundreds of NBA players did this better than he did during their careers compared to him.

      Now I’m NOT a C Webb hater at all… I’m NOT calling him a scrub the way you called Mullin.

      They are both good and deserving of the Hall of Fame…

      You must not be real fan of the NBA to call Mullin a scrub because if you were a real fan you’d know just how good of a shooter he was…

      Now I’m from Indiana and I’m a bit older so I’m a HUGE Larry Bird fan. Bird is without question a much better player than Mullin.

      But, Mullin has a higher career FG% than Larry Bird (.509% to .496%)

      Mullin has a higher career 3 pt % than Larry Bird (.384% to .376%)

      Larry Bird is currently in 90th place all time on the true shooting list in the NBA and Mullin is 23rd.

      Based on their shooting percentages above, one may not call Mullin a scrub, at least not one who knows the game of basketball…

      • airjunior23 - Sep 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM

        Well, these stats while they arent lies, do not tell the whole story. Webber was a great passer, he actually has more dimes and avg more in his career, just as many steals and LED more meaningful teams than Mullin. Mully didnt have the pressure like Cwebb had to lead and produce. and lets make sure that we note that Cwebb developed a 15-18 foot jumper which wouldve and did change his shooting percentage significantly. Mully was never a focal point of a team and webber was. before his knees were bad he ran the floor better tha any PF/C EVER. Open court vision, big play ability. If mully goes Webber goes as well and webber was better in college and played against the nations best.
        Im from Oakland and a huge Dubs fan….I watched a lot of both and mully was great, but it’s funny how easily they let him in the Hall and no one really objected. Now there is a Webber debate. Im not callin shenanigans, but let’s be real Webber was a big deal.

      • vi3tguy415 - Sep 9, 2013 at 4:00 PM

        Chris mullin at his best was a 2nd best player on his team. he never led his team anywhere. defense focused on webber way more. double double in pts n rebound his entire career. ( except the last 2yrs or so). he changed the culture in the bay. did mullin do any of those? just silly to me how he got in. not hating. just think the HOF belongs to great players, not 2nd options.

    • louhudson23 - Sep 10, 2013 at 6:22 AM

      Troll much? Weber was a versatile player and excellent passer, whose numbers and relative longevity will most likely land him in the HoF. Chris Mullin was an all time great…certainly one of the greatest shooters to ever play and great driver and tremendous in the open floor and on the break as well as a good passer….and he was the best player on those Golden State teams….the number one option and the focus of opposing defenses

  5. vi3tguy415 - Sep 9, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    by the way, u forgot to mention that he put sac on the map!

  6. mrlitl - Sep 9, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    I agree sportsfan. Calling Mullin a scrub is silly.

  7. albie23 - Sep 9, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Mullin was no scrub! Had he played in a bigger market city like NY or LA we would have heard and seen more of him but I think he absolutely deserves to be in the HOF!! Webber in, Hardaway in (not 1st ballot), Vlade…..HELL NO.

  8. cameltoehoe - Sep 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    No, yes, and no…..respectively.

  9. bougin89 - Sep 9, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Magic could have had twin towers with Webber and Shaq. Not trying to say Hardaway was bad but that would have been an incredible duo to beat teams with down low. Plus they had some shooters to put around them in Dennis Scott and Nick Anderson. I always thought that trade was a head scratcher.

  10. tcclark - Sep 9, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Maurice Cheeks should have been in a while ago. I think he deserves it before any of these players.

  11. mytthor - Sep 10, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    To the people saying Webber led better teams, I don’t think that should be used as a criterion, unless “had a shot to make the finals” is something special. Neither guy won a ring so you can’t base it on success, to me.

  12. 00maltliquor - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:46 AM

    VLADEEEEE!!!! Get him in through the backdoor!

  13. jimsjam33 - Sep 10, 2013 at 3:02 AM

    Let’s see . Magic Johnson , Larry Bird , and Michael Jordan , Yes .

    Tim Hardaway , Chris Webber , and Vlade Divac , No !

    I think everyone will agree the top three were special and deserving to be in Basketball’s Hall of Fame . The bottom three were very good and were deserving of drawing a good paycheck , not the Hall of Fame .
    The Hall should be reserved for greatness not goodness ! Today’s qualifier’s would include LeBron James , Chris Paul , Kobe Bryant , Tim Duncan , and Kevin Durant .

    Hardaway , Webber , and Divac do not belong on that list .

    • Kurt Helin - Sep 10, 2013 at 6:53 PM

      If the standard you need to reach is Magic/Larry/MJ, most of the guys in the Hall should be tossed and right now I wouldn’t say CP3 or KD have earned that level. That standard is too high.

      • jimsjam33 - Sep 12, 2013 at 6:31 PM

        Mr. Helin ,

        That’s why they call it the Hall of Fame . It appears you do agree that James , Bryant , and Duncan are deserving of the honor . Paul and Durant will certainly qualify .
        Championships should not be the criteria for the Hall , greatness should be . Examples are Charles Barkley , Patrick Ewing , John Stockton , Karl Malone , Pearl Monroe , yes there’s a whole bunch out there .
        Webber , Hardaway , and Divac ( although good ) should not qualify .

  14. onlyavoice - Sep 10, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    The Hall Is Turning Into A Joke.
    NONE Of These Guys Should Go In.

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