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Rick Barry says Ray Allen travelled on key Game 6 three

Sep 6, 2013, 1:45 PM EDT

Talk with a group of basketball fans – it doesn’t have to be too large – and discuss that play, Michael Jordan’s final shot with the Bulls, the basket that won the 1998 NBA Finals over the Jazz.

Someone will claim Jordan pushed off Bryon Russell.*

Unlike nearly every other all-time great shot in NBA history, Jordan’s step-back jumper comes with a controversy. Some view it as tainted because of the non-call, especially because of the wide perception Jordan got superstar calls.

*Personally, I thought Russell was off balance and when Jordan touched him to an allowable degree, Russell fell. So, no foul should have been called. But it was close.

But nearly every one of the NBA’s most iconic shots are completely untainted. Jordan over Ehlo, Jerry West’s heave, Gar Heard’s Shot Hear Round The World, Ray Allen’s Allen’s 3-pointer that tied Game 6 of the 2013 NBA Finals

Hold it right there, says Rick Barry.

The Hall of Famer in a Q&A with Surya Fernandez of Hot Hot Hoops:

What are your general thoughts on the Miami Heat championship and the 2013 NBA Finals?

They were very fortunate to win the championship. They had a great season, had that incredible run with all those consecutive victories which I don’t care where you’re playing or who you’re playing against, that’s still a great accomplishment. They were fortunate enough to be able to repeat as champions which is a very difficult thing to do. They got a little help from San Antonio and from an official who swallowed his whistle on Ray Allen‘s travel on the 3-point shot that tied the game in Game 6. Otherwise the Spurs would have been the champions and nobody talks much about that. But that’s a part of what happens in the game and you have to credit them for responding as they did and being able to come away with a victory.

You just mentioned that you think Ray Allen travelled on that corner 3 at the end of Game 6…

There’s no question about it, just watch the replay that they showed from the overhead camera. He catches the ball with one foot down, steps back, brings the foot that he had down back to shoot the ball. That’s traveling, you can’t move your pivot foot without dribbling.

Do you think the ref saw that and chose not to interfere with such an important moment of a championship game or did it happen so quickly Allen’s shuffle to that spot looked legit?

It happened so quickly that the official just saw Ray doing it and he was looking down probably just to see if he got behind the three-point arc. It was a great shot, but they didn’t call it so it doesn’t matter. They got away with it, so lucky them.

Here’s the video:

I just don’t see the travel.

In the replay that begins at 28 seconds, it appears Allen’s left foot it is planted behind the arc when he catches the ball. Then, leaving his left foot planted, he brings his right foot back, elevates and shoots. However, the referee is partially blocking that view, so it’s difficult to say conclusively he didn’t travel.

The angle the Barry seems to be referring to begins at 38 seconds. Because it’s an overhead view, it’s difficult to tell when Allen’s feet are on the court or just off it. Best I can tell, though, Allen catches the ball with his right foot on the floor inside the arc and left foot in the air. He plants his left foot behind the arc and then brings his right foot back behind the arc, too.

The applicable NBA rule:

A player who receives the ball while moving is allowed a two count rhythm but must release the ball prior to the third step touching the floor.

Moving his left back was count one, and moving his right foot back was beat two. Then, he shoots. I think he’s OK.

I don’t precisely see the play the same way on each angle, which obviously speaks to how imperfect our view is. But no matter how I’ve looked at it, I don’t see a travel, either.

  1. dacapt704 - Sep 6, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Hey Rick- You were a great player but please STFU! Thanks

  2. herkulease - Sep 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Why are you repeating a story/blog post that was done 2 months ago?

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/19/rick-barry-says-ray-allen-traveled-on-critical-game-6-three/

  3. meroyero - Sep 6, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    In other news: something may or may not have happened in the past, but it still doesn’t change the end result.

  4. supremekingz - Sep 6, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    He didn’t travel. What he should have mentioned was how the Spurs choked at the foul line

  5. asimonetti88 - Sep 6, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    In my opinion, it appears as if he traveled. But it’s over and done, and if the Spurs wanted to win the championship, they had every chance to do so in Game 7 and they failed.

  6. miamatt - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    This exact story came out two months ago. It was BS then, and it’s BS now. Either way, it changes nothing.

  7. p2thar - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    If You Don’t See Him Travel, Either Ease Up On Your Heat Slurping, Or Start Learning Basketball, It’s Painfully Obvious That He Traveled.

  8. marcuspokus - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    I don’t understand what’s the point of publishing the same story twice, but, again, Allen did not travel on the play. What should be discussed is how Duncan checked into the game illegally right after that play. A review of a play does not count as a dead ball situation and the Spurs did not have any timeouts left, so there is no way of justifying Duncan’s substitution. Shouldn’t the NBA discipline someone for that kind of mistake?

  9. kb2408 - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    So, let’s do the math; 1 title during a shortened season and 1 title won primarily on a three pointer that shouldn’t have been allowed….that’s two asterisks in my book.

    • kb2408 - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:41 PM

      And, the according to Heat “fans”, this is one of the best teams ever?! Really?! I think not…

      • doc305 - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:49 PM

        that’s cute that you reply to your own comment.
        there will always be people that try to discredit a championship because something was or was not called. You have to remember the La v Sacramento series years back, does that La ring have an asterisks in this book of yours?
        The reality is that your constant trolling on Miami comment sections proves that you either a 14 year boy that sobs every time his team loses saying, “but its not fair!”
        or you are such a douche that you have to hate just for the sake of hating. The Lakers are a storied franchise, but you give their fans a bad name by being a turd about other teams…don’t be a turd

    • pantsfreezone - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:54 PM

      According to morons, it isn’t. Go away.

    • jt1138 - Sep 7, 2013 at 8:25 AM

      Let’s do some more math; 3 titles riding the coattails of Shaq, one playoff series win without Shaq or Pau, and one series where Pau and MWP saved him after a terrible shooting percentage. Those are some good sized asterisks in my book.

      • asimonetti88 - Sep 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

        Rooting for teams > Rooting for players

        Lakers won 5 championships during that time, and that’s all that matters to Lakers fans.

  10. dirtydavis - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    WOW!!! I can’t believe the refs missed that….

  11. joeksnuffy - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    This is ridiculous. And I say that as a Miami hater. The catch and step-back and release were fluid. nobody at the time was even considering this as a travel. When you go in slow motion you maybe can argue that he technically traveled, though it is not clear. But, if you do that on this play, you have to go to all the other plays in the game/series/season and break them down like that. You will then find that lots of plays have some technicality undetected at the time that would render them invalid. If the referee had called traveling, he would have had to go into the witness protection program, and rightly so. This is just sour grapes and diminishes the unbelievable shot by Ray Allen. The dude simply nailed a very difficult, clutch shot that will go down in history as one of the greatest.

    • Kurt Helin - Sep 7, 2013 at 1:23 AM

      He did not travel by how the NBA defines it. The league instructs officials that players get a “gather” step as they gain control of the ball, then two steps. Ray Allen was within that definition. Is that how your grandfather or Rick define it, but it is how the NBA is pretty consistently called.

  12. j0esixpack - Sep 6, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Officials look the other way on travelling all season long. Why start in Game 7?

    If you want to be critical of the sad state of refereeing in the NBA be my guest – but missed calls and bad calls seem to be part of the game unfortunately

  13. panchopolarbear - Sep 7, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Definitely not a travel.

  14. brokerhenry - Sep 7, 2013 at 6:00 AM

    Hey Ric, that you? What what? I can’t hear you!! The shine on Ray’s big fat ring is so bright it messes up my eyes and my ears!!! Shaddup Ric!!! I getting blinged over here!!!

  15. metalhead65 - Sep 7, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    and when I was growing up we were taught if you left your feet you had to either shoot it or pass it before you touched the floor again or it was travelling. now you see guys take off at the free throw line land pump fake and do a spin move and take 3 steps to the hoop. in other words everybody travels and it is almost never ever called.

  16. returnofmeezle - Sep 7, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Not a travel. Not even close. He caught the ball with both feet in the air. step back with the right and jumped up off of both feet for the jumper. Not even close. Go in slow motion you see both feet in the air because of the shadows underneath. I hate Ray Allen with a passion but anyone that’s says it’s a walk is either bitter or doesn’t know basketball. It’s pretty cut and dry.

  17. bizzmoneyb - Sep 8, 2013 at 6:52 AM

    oh my god.. this again?!!! look at the replay dude!! hes falling back and catches the ball in mid airmbefore his feet hit the ground! as soon as his feet plant on the court he shoots the ball!!! he doesnt even take a step!! stop hatin’ man!! it was legit and one of the best shots in Finals history!! stop tryin to tear the man down! it was LEGIT!! MOVE ON!!! HATER!!!

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