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Raymond Felton says Paul Pierce ‘talking all this junk’ will boost Knicks-Nets rivalry

Aug 16, 2013, 7:16 PM EDT

Newly acquired Net's NBA players attend a news conference introducing them to the media in Brooklyn Reuters

A rivalry in sports has different meanings depending completely on perspective.

A team with a long history of a winning tradition is not likely to view those with lesser credentials as a rival, but teams with a little brother complex that are in close proximity may get up for games against the more historically powerful franchise.

The way the Lakers view the Clippers and the Suns, and the way those teams view the Lakers are perfect examples of this.

Sticking with the same illustration, the Lakers view teams like the Celtics and the Spurs as rivals, because of multiple hard-fought postseason battles against these clubs, as well as their championship pedigrees that stack up almost equally to that of the storied Los Angeles franchise.

Ultimately, it’s in the eye of the beholder.

Once the Nets moved to Brooklyn last season — playing their home games a mere 6.1 miles from where the Knicks play at Madison Square Garden — they believed that a rivalry was immediately put into place. It didn’t seem as important to the Knicls, however, given the fact that they’ve been New York’s only NBA team essentially forever, and are embedded as such in the city’s culture.

Since Paul Pierce came to the Nets in a trade from the Celtics this summer, he’s been talking up the rivalry at seemingly every opportunity. His words haven’t gone unnoticed by Knicks starting point guard Raymond Felton, who believes Pierce’s words are indeed helping to fuel that fire.

From Abe Schwadron of SLAM:

SLAM: Can we expect the Knicks-Nets rivalry to continue to grow?

RF: Yeah, especially with Paul Pierce talking all this junk, each and every week. Saying something on some show, some radio show or whatever. It’s just boosting the rivalry, without a doubt. Like I say to people all the time, I don’t care what Brooklyn do, I don’t care if they have a better record than we do this year, we still got “New York” on our chest. We’re still New York’s team, regardless of what Brooklyn do. It just is what it is. …

They can say Brooklyn this, Brooklyn that, they got KG, they got Paul Pierce—OK, they’re going to be good, we know that. But they’re also going to be an older team as well. They’re not going to have the youth that they had last year. But I look forward to it. I love rivalries, I’ve been playing in them a long time.

Talking things up will certainly help generate interest. But for a true rivalry to exist, each team has to achieve some sustained measure of success against the other, and the Nets simply haven’t been around long enough yet to have that kind of impact on the Knicks’ New York market share.

  1. kb2408 - Aug 16, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    It should be one heck of a rivalry. I can not wait for the NBA season to begin! Even though my LAKERS are not title contenders, I am still very anxious to see how the upcoming season unfolds. Fat Ray needs to stop worrying about Paul and come into the season in tip top shape for once in his life.

    • badintent - Aug 17, 2013 at 2:01 AM

      GET NBA all access so you can watch the best Laker, Metta play for my Knicks all season long. Shutting down Paul and his fake wheelchair. Worry about Kobe and his leg even with all those stem cells, red platelets, HGH , etc in it.
      Ray did hire a PT last year and report in great shape. And play great. Almost as good a Chris paul when he when beating the lakers in the clutch.

  2. knicksmets - Aug 16, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    “Fat Ray” was one of the more consistent Knicks last year, I’m more worried about the front court, Chandler needs to step up his offensive gamr if the knicks want to go far into the playoffs, the other forwards also need to rebound and produce other than just Melo

  3. clevelandschronic2 - Aug 16, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    This just in- the knicks havent been title contenders since Ewing. So this talk of the knicks controlling NY is crazy. The nets are a better TEAM and id bet any amount of $ they will be better than the Knicks again this year.

    Lets stop pretending the knicks are a top team. They havent accomplished anything in 15+ years. I’ll be Called a hater but the facts and stats dont lie.

    • jimeejohnson - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:10 PM

      Who needs facts?

    • badintent - Aug 17, 2013 at 2:08 AM

      The mistake by the lake. Is life really still there ? The same AAU team pretending to be a NBA team ? KIsses to Danny gilbert. Knicks won over 50 games in the season. Same number as your losses.Knicks clearing salary cap to sign Irving so he can light it up in MSG !!

      I’m LeBron James. and I freaking approved this message

    • theblatche - Aug 17, 2013 at 2:38 AM

      “The Nets are a better team”, sais who, you? Getting the “Old-3” from Boston was rediculous, attention seeking, unprofessional joke of a deal for 3 guys past their prime. Your owner did it because of the big-names, he’s looking to prove something to the Knicks. Nets are thinking about us alot more than we’re thinking about them. All this hype will settle down once we get the show on the road and people see there nothing more than a 6th seeded team. Garnett is the best out of the 3 they just got and he is 37 years old, Pierce is 35 and Terry is 35. Three old men are what’s creating all of this hype for the Nets? Thats what makes them better than us? Please.. Knicks are much deeper with talent and much more balanced with both offense and defense. Nets are too lop-sided and the chemistry’s not going to pan out like you clueless fair-weather fans expected. WATCH

    • tdot1091 - Aug 17, 2013 at 8:56 AM

      The Nets haven’t been relevant in about 10 years and haven’t won title in about the same span as the Knicks. As far as last season is concerned, last I checked the Nets finished 4th while the Knicks won the division, locked up a 2nd seed and had arguably the best of the franchise. I’m not gonna call you a hater, but I’ll call you misinformed and ignorant. And that $ you’re willing bet will be gone again this year because, like last year, the Knicks will finish with a better record than the Nets yet again. How’s that for facts douche.

    • ProBasketballPundit - Aug 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

      The Nets weren’t better last year. Not by any measurement.

  4. dysraw1 - Aug 16, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    back when J Kidd was running things for NJ, i couldn’t stand those guys. they came in and road roughshod over us on to many occasions for my taste. back then they were the better team.this year i will be interested to see what we can do against this combo team of C’s & Nets.

  5. jammer73 - Aug 16, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    “No matter what Brooklyn do”….LOL, Hooked on Phonics anyone?

  6. namaths5thofwhiskey - Aug 16, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Cant wait. All the Knick–Net games last season had a playoff feel. This season it should be even more exciting.

    • theblatche - Aug 17, 2013 at 3:09 AM

      Couldn’t agree more.

  7. patrickhrfrd - Aug 16, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    I’m sorry. The Spurs have been a great team over the years. But their championship pedigree is nowhere near on the level of the Lakers!!!

  8. stayhigh_247 - Aug 16, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    I’m loving that pic, KG has that wtf is this guy talking about, look on his face.

    • jimeejohnson - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:12 PM

      Pierce was saying if you’ve tried one lobster roll you’ve tried them all. KG knew he was just saying what the local Brooklyn audience needed to hear. Best lobster rolls are in New England.

  9. bobthedude - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    The nets had a few playoff seasons 10 years ago. Nothing since then. Not only did the Knicks have sustained success through the 90’s but we’re also a perennial playoff team now. The nets so badly want a rivalry that for years now all they do is talk. Haven’t backed it up and aren’t good enough to back it up now. The nets are built for one, maybe two shots. Not close to good enough to win it all. Knicks will still be a contender while the nets fade into basketball purgatory. Can’t have a rivalry that way. Just a jealous little brother.

    • theblatche - Aug 17, 2013 at 3:11 AM

      Thats very well said. They are so anxious to prove something to the Knicks that they bring over the “Old-3” like its going to do anything. Dumb Nets fans sign a 37 year old and two 35 year olds and think they’re better than us. Pretty sure the Knicks will repeat for the Atlantic division Champs.

  10. onlyavoice - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    KG & Pierce Make It a Rivalry.
    Most Believe That The Celtics Would Have Beat The Knicks If Rondo Was Healthy.
    I Bet The Nets Are Better Than The Knicks This Post Season & When The Knicks Lose Quickly Again
    The Rivalry Will Grow.

  11. jimmymarlinsfan - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Who cares? Neither beats the heat

    • theblatche - Aug 17, 2013 at 3:13 AM

      The Knicks will. Lebron James is amazing, he’s litterally winnign these Chamionships on his own but the Knicks have enough depth and talent throughout their roster to give the Heat a fight at it, just like the Pacers and Spurs gave them a fight.

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Aug 31, 2013 at 3:52 PM

        Lol. No

      • theblatche - Apr 12, 2014 at 8:11 AM

        lol yes

  12. patfic15 - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    What Brooklyn “does”.

  13. bux1022 - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Knicks were the second seed and have made the playoffs the last few years and have improved every season. BK is not our rivals. Boston anything will always be the Knicks rivals PERIOD!!

  14. 1historian - Aug 17, 2013 at 7:20 AM

    Seasons since the nix’s last championship – 40 & counting

    Seasons since the nets’ last championship – never & counting

    This is just smoke and mirrors trying to sell tickets by making something out of nothing.

  15. kplayaja - Aug 17, 2013 at 8:17 AM

    Hey Raymond, what do you mean you don’t care if they have a better record than you??? Reminds me of when he said the Knicks own the tie breaker against the Heat even though they were 12 games back in the standings. #delusional

  16. siggtacular - Aug 17, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Nets > Knicks

  17. bux1022 - Aug 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM


  18. imakcds - Aug 17, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Pierce is more than a Vet on the court, he knows the PR game, and he’s only selling tickets.
    He was a Celtic, he knows what a REAL rivalry is.

  19. espo34112 - Aug 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Pierce can run his mouth all he wants. Bottom line is you can take the Nets out of Jersey. But you can’t take the Jersey out of the Nets. The Knicks are and always will be New York’s N b a team

  20. cruzan80 - Aug 17, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    @clevelandschronic2, the FACT is the Knicks finished with a better record & advanced deeper into the playoffs losing to a much better team than the Nets did. The Knicks also did this with injuries to 2 projected starters at the beginning of the season ( Amare & Shumpert ). I’m not gonna you a “hater” though…..a moron….maybe but a hater…nah.

  21. nbafan247 - Aug 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM



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