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76ers claim a couple former Rockets off waivers

Jul 15, 2013, 10:15 PM EST

James Anderson, Quincy Pondexter

Sam Hinkie is turning the 76ers into the Rockets of the East.

The former Houston executive vice president of basketball operations and new Philadelphia general manager already traded for Royce White and Furkan Aldemir. Now, Hinkie is adding two more Rockets.

CSN Philly:

A league source has informed CSNPhilly.com’s Dei Lynam that the Sixers have been awarded James Anderson and Tim Ohlbrecht — who were released by the Houston Rockets — off waivers.

This is a no-risk move for the 76ers, who will assume the current contracts of Anderson and Ohlbrecht. Both have unguaranteed minimum contracts for the next two years, and either or both could be released before the upcoming season without penalty.

The Rockets had to waive Anderson and Ohlbrecht to make room for Dwight Howard, obviously a worthwhile move. But Hinkie should know better than any general manager outside Houston whether they’re worth a shot.

  1. 00maltliquor - Jul 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Soooo….when were you, PBT, going to aware us of these two seemingly minor cuts from the Rockets? I have NBA2K rosters that I update throughout the off-season (well, all season really). I need to know these things!

    No, but seriously, did they keep Beverley and Smith or are they gone too to make room for P-12?

  2. htownred34 - Jul 15, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    I wonder if Hinkie would take Asik for Thadeus Young…

    • tcclark - Jul 15, 2013 at 11:51 PM

      Um there were rumors that Hinkie was talking Thad Young for Demarcus Cousins during the draft but backed out after the Holiday deal so probably not. The Rockets would have to give up more than just Asik to get Thad. Asik and a 1st would probably do it though.

      • danielcp0303 - Jul 16, 2013 at 12:00 AM

        Then they’re overvaluing Young. No way they’d come close to getting Cousins with that, and the Rockets could get a lot more for Asik.

      • somekat - Jul 16, 2013 at 12:01 AM

        I don’t think so. I think you underestimate Thad’s value. He’s still very young, has a game every contender craves (fills up a stat sheet without having plays called for him), and has a very manageable contract.

        Asik and a 1 wouldn’t even come close, not with where Houston is projected to pick. I think Thad Young is the one guy that was here under the old regime that plays here long term. They build around Noel, Carter Williams, Thad Young, the 2 firsts next year, and up to 2 max FA’s they can sign next year (I think they try to “poison pill” Indiana and give George some crazy contract to go with the young core, then depending on if Indiana matches, move from there). If moving Thad was the difference between a max FA or 2 max FA, I could see it, but you are talking about taking on more salary, for a less valuable player.

      • tcclark - Jul 16, 2013 at 12:25 AM

        And they’re not getting any max players let alone 2. No one is going to sign here. Why would Paul George sign an offer sheet to play in Philly when Indiana is willing and able to offer him more money to play for a winning team? Why would anyone come to a team that is most likely the worst team in the NBA. Lebron’s not coming, Dwayne Wade isn’t either. No one is going to decide to team up in Philly over other more attractive destinations. This team needs to build through the draft. They either need to draft a superstar or draft enough assets in order to trade for a superstar. No one is signing here next year. Maybe if we get Wiggins, he shows that he’s a superstar, and we maintain cap room in 2015, someone will come to play with him, but that has about a 1% chance of happening and that is being fairly generous considering we’d only have a 25% chance of even having the first pick next year even if we were the worst team in the league. This is not going to be a 1-2 year fix. We might not be a contender for another 10 years. That’s just how the NBA is built. There is no sense in keeping Thad. Trade him now while he still has value.

      • tcclark - Jul 16, 2013 at 12:16 AM

        I love Thad, but his game and his size tells me he is a very good sixth man. He doesn’t match up well against first units. He improved last year, but he’s still a power forward in a small forwards body. He would be great for a team like Houston or OKC where he could come off the bench and bring energy and effort to the second unit. Statistically his best year was last year, but from my own perspective he was at his best the year before with Lou Williams on the second unit. He was dominant then. He and Lou were the reason that team was able to stay in games. His game is perfect for a contender and this team has no chance at contending for quite some time. He is a waste on this team and a guy his size will pare horribly with Nerlens Noel.

        Is he worth more than Asik and a 1st? Yes. Will we get more? no. Us Sixers fans love Thad because we love hard-working blue collar players. We put them on pedestals and love them for their effort. NBA GMs don’t see it that way. They don’t watch all of our games. They don’t listen to all of our media. They see the Thaddeus Young that was the 6th man of the year candidate a couple years ago and would be a great addition to their bench. Bench players aren’t worth more than a quality center and a 1st. especially when we have no leverage. Thad is 25, is coming off his best statistical year so far, and is playing for a team that won’t be ready to compete for at least 5 years. We need to trade him while his value is still high. I’d rather get somebody with more upside than Asik, but i’d consider Asik and a 1st if that is what Houston offered.

      • somekat - Jul 16, 2013 at 10:03 AM

        There is no value there for the sixers. Why would they do it? Thad makes less money than Asik, has a contract that runs longer, and plays a position that the Sixers just drafted a guy the expect to be a franchise anchor (leaving out the fact that Noel and Asik on the floor at this point would be a joke on offense). Asik makes just enough money that they would not be able to offer 2 max FA contracts.

        If they put Thad Young on the market, 15 teams would be interested. Why would the sixers take a low first round pick, and a guy that the Rockets have 0 leverage on because he can’t play with D12? (Howard and Asik on the floor is just as bad as Asik and Noel, there would be no room for anyone to penetrate) The Rockets are the team that would be desperate to make that deal, why would the sixers give up the better player, and the better contract? It makes no sense at all except “Hienke used to work in Houston”. It’s not some personal love affair with Thad Young that I have, it looking at the pieces that are coming back, and looking how they would effect the team, and then wondering why anyone in the right mind would do it

        As far as Asik, he doesn’t help the sixers do what they want to do this year (tank), he makes enough money that he would prevent the sixers from offering 2 max contracts next year, and he isn’t (or never will be) the type of player that is going to make a big impact on a franchise.

      • tcclark - Jul 16, 2013 at 12:33 PM

        Ok first lets start with the contract. Asik makes 3 million dollars less than Thad this year but 5 million more next year which sounds bad, but could be a blessing in disguise. His contract is also a year shorter, not longer as you suggested. This contract would actually be a major asset for the sixers. As I said in my other post. They are not signing any max free agents let alone 2. Paul George would not take less money to leave a contending team and play for the Sixers. That’s insane. There is nothing of value in Philadelphia for players in this league. The only players we’d be able to sign to max contracts are guys who don’t deserve max contracts.

        With that being a said a 14 million dollar expiring contract gives us a great opportunity to trade for a superstar in 2014-2015. We need to acquire assets. Trading Thad for Asik and a 1st would allow us to gain two things we need to acquire a superstar. A trade chip in a first round pick and a big expiring contract.

        The idea of Asik and Noel on the floor together doesn’t matter to me. Noel won’t play until probably the All-Star break, and by that time, Hinkie could have already traded Asik to a team looking for a big defensive center to make a playoff run. And even if he didn’t, I think having Asik and Noel on the floor at the same time is so bad that we’d probably lose every game which is the goal this year anyway.

        This trade would not be about clearing cap space or trading for a big impact player. It would be about acquiring two assets. A big defensive center who could be traded again at the deadline (or a big expiring contract for the next year), and a draft pick in next year’s deep draft. Are there better trades out there for Thad? Absolutely. I’d love to get a lot more than Asik and a first, but this poster asked about Thad for Asik and I told him he’d probably have to throw in a 1st before they’d consider it. It’s not the best trade out there, but it’s good value for Thad Young.

      • somekat - Jul 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM

        also, i’m curious about your “Other NBA GMs don’t see it that way, they don’t watch all of our games” comment. It’s just confusing. If they are trading for guys, and are looking at game tape to see the guy and what he brings to the table, they won’t be GMs in the NBA for more than a few months. They may not watch them live, but every GM in the league knows who Thad Young is, and what he brings to the table, or they wouldn’t be NBA GMs. The guys been in the league for years now

      • tcclark - Jul 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM

        My point was. NBA GMs aren’t as enamored with our players as we are. We are fans. We look at Thad and see the blue collar worker that our city was built on. They all obviously know who Thad young is, but NBA GMs don’t see him as that blue collar worker. They see him as “Thad Young – great bench player.” He has more value to us because he’s been here so long and he gives the effort that we love. You’re valuing him with your heart and not your brain. 6th men aren’t worth multiple first round picks or even unprotected picks. He’s not an all-star and won’t be. He’s a tweener who works best as a high energy player coming off the bench. Asik and a 1st is good value. It may not be the best trade, but it is fair value.

      • somekat - Jul 16, 2013 at 1:04 PM

        If the Rockets called the Kings, and offered them Asik and their late first for Cousins, they would laugh and hang up the phone. But yet they were talking about that deal for Thad Young. That should tell you how other GM’s look at Thad Young.

      • tcclark - Jul 16, 2013 at 1:11 PM

        all that tells me is how the Kings look at Thad or probably more likely, how the Kings look at Cousins. Asik and a first makes no sense for the Kings. It makes sense for Philly.

      • somekat - Jul 16, 2013 at 1:43 PM

        How? He’s a center that is useless on the offensive end. They just drafted one of those. The only difference is, the one they drafted could develop an offensive game.

        All Asik does, is make them win 15 games instead of 12 this year, and brings down their lottery chances next year. It makes even less sense for Philly than it does for the Kings (who are trying to become competitive under the new ownership). This trade would be the opposite direction than they have gone with every other move they have done this off-season.

        Get younger, shed salary. That’s what they have been doing. This does the opposite on both accounts

      • tcclark - Jul 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM

        You think the Sixers win more games with Asik than Thad Young? you’re insane. This trade is not for Asik. Asik has no role on this team now or in the future. This trade is about assets. A big defensive center is a tradable asset. A 14 million dollar expiring contract is an asset. A first round pick in the deepest draft in years is an asset. If we get Thad for Asik and a first and then trade asik for another first at the deadline, we just turned Thad Young into two first round picks which i don’t think we could get now.

  3. edwardemanuelson - Jul 16, 2013 at 7:36 AM

    Spurs fan here… Good move grabbing Anderson. We loved James in SA. The kid has some skills, and can be a good reserve, but just needs a chance to play somewhere. Injuries derailed his rookie season in SA, and henever really recovered. Hopefully the 6ers can do for him what SA and Houston couldn’t.

  4. dezglobal - Jul 16, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Good pickups w nothing to lose.

  5. dezglobal - Jul 16, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    6ers coming out of the east.

  6. bamajohnson - Jul 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    I like Thaddeus and all but is he worth Asik and a first?? Hell no!

  7. bamajohnson - Jul 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Love the addition of Anderson nevertheless

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