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Woodson confirms Stoudemire to have minutes limit

Jul 11, 2013, 1:31 PM EST

New York Knicks' Amar'e Stoudemire dunks during their NBA basketball game against the Cleveland Cavaliers in Cleveland Reuters

The New York Knicks will have Amar’e Stoudemire back next season… but kind of as a part time guy.

The minute limit that Stoudemire was on at the end of last season to keep his knees healthy after coming back from surgery will continue into the next season, Knicks coach Mike Woodson said to the New York Post.

The Knicks had talked about a 20-minute cap limit on the forward, and they also discussed limiting his playing in back-to-back games.

“Right now, as it stands, he’s going to be on some restrictions,’’ Woodson said. “What those restrictions will be, I don’t know yet.’’

This isn’t a big hit as the Knicks essentially played last season without Stoudemire.

The problem is if the Knicks are going to take a step forward to compete with the Heat, Pacers, Bulls and the others at the top of the East they are going to need more out of guys who didn’t contribute as much before. The Knicks have not been in a financial position to add players so they neeed more from guys on the roster.

Stoudemire could be one of those guys who boosts the Knicks talent level, but now he’s going to have to do it in 20 minutes a game. Which is not going to be much.

  1. saint1997 - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Knicks just need one more move (a high tier PG) to contend but as it is they are one piece short

    • somekat - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:50 PM

      high teir PG means Melo doesn’t have the ball all the time, which means Melo pouts, which drags the whole team down

      It’s the risk they took when they decided to build around Melo

      • money2long - Jul 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

        this is an incorrect assessment.

      • saint1997 - Jul 12, 2013 at 7:54 PM

        i disagree. Melo wants to win and he knows when he isn’t always the focus he can do that (see team USA)

  2. timb12 - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    The 100 million dollar man only has to play 20 minutes a game? That’s a sweet deal.

    • asimonetti88 - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:04 PM

      Assuming he plays 50 games this year, that’s only $20,000 per minute played!

  3. lenbias34pt - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Stoudemire is simply not that good.

    The list of NBA players who gather big stats who aren’t helping teams win is actually quite long. Anyone still think Monta Ellis or Brandon Jennings are top NBA players?

    And thus the Knicks are at a great disadvantage. They can win with Stoudemire, but they are paying him like a top flight starter and he is a guy who could only help a team as a scoring punch off the bench for 10 minutes.
    He contibutes nothing else.

    • jigwig13 - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM

      Wow to your comment…everyone is entitled to there own opinion…but u can’t forget up until the Knicks got melo he was doing what he was doing his whole career dominating..he’s lost his confidence with the Knicks he needs a change..he definitely can be a co-star on another team just not the Knicks…

      • brutl - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        Melo only made it out of the 1st round of the playoffs once with the Nuggets, so I’m not sure what you think the definition of dominating is.

      • lenbias34pt - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        Look at the how the Suns and the knicks did without him.
        Either better or atleast as well.

        He was a great scorer and did put up rebounding #’s, but all of those stats (like Nash’s) have to be looked at with the knowledge of the up tempo system he was playing in.

        I’m actually shocked i’ve gotten so much hate on my comments. I figure the people that are reading this are hard core NBA fans. Not guys who think George Gervin, Dominique Wilkins and Mark Aguire were elite players who actually helped their teams win.

      • jimeejohnson - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:24 PM

        Hey Len: you’re biased.

    • nowyouknow2000 - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM

      “Stoudemire is simply not that good.”

      How quickly we forget…I remember when STAT first came to the Knicks he was in the MVP discussion before the Carmelo trade which blew up the team he was the star on and had great chemistry with and then he got hurt…neither of those things is his fault (well the glass breaking thing was, but we won’t talk about that).

  4. nghtrder169 - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Amare was more than just a $100mill man… He made the Knicks relevant – there would be no Melo if Amare wasn’t here first… Amare was great year 1 the rest was payment for Melo lol – thats how I look at it… The real problem is the KNICKS as an organization… Its been a long time were u can say they’ve made repeated solid/good moves… For every good move there are 3 bad ones before it and after it smh

    • losangelesbillsofbuffalo - Jul 11, 2013 at 5:17 PM

      I agree that Amare was the main piece that made the Knicks relevant in his half-season without Carmelo. However, to say ‘Melo wasn’t coming to NY without Amare and his first half contributions, in my opinion, is incorrect. Carmelo was coming to NY no matter what, either via trade or holding out until he was unrestricted. He was craving NYC and could have dealt with one half-season without a playoff run to build the team for the future. As it turns out, they were good enough to make a playoff run, but he was coming to NY no matter how relevent they were that year.

      The biggest blunder in all of this was the fact that the Knicks, just as they always do, made the rash decision of amnestying Chauncey instead of Amare. Granted, hindsight is 20/20, and the Knicks were still holding out hope that Amare was the star they thought he was. BUT he was NEVER worth the contract he received. Only 5 players in the entire league are worth that type of $ for that many years.

      • nghtrder169 - Jul 13, 2013 at 5:45 PM

        I agree with you 100% on the Chauncey Amnesty to sign Chandler thing… It really handcuffed the franchise…. But remember Melo also had the option of going/being traded to the Nets who were going to BK – this whole superstars joining together in the NBA that started that “Decision” night was in Melo’s head – right or wrong he saw Amare as a superstar he could win with… That helped the Knicks – made Melo convince Dolan to give everyone up for him

  5. dorian26 - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    If you look at the Amare contract from the perspective on the day the deal was made, it actually makes allot of sense. He wasnt AS injury prone. He was the first star to sign there and he was playing like it. He had a string of 30 point games with a couple 40 point games mixed in. He was a beast and he was living up to his contract. Then Melo came and his effectiveness level went way down. The addition of Tyson Chandler didnt help either. The chemistry issues never resolved, and then he started to get injured. From the perspective of today? That contract is killer. From the perspective of then? It made sense. Plus you can argue Melo and Tyson wouldnt have wanted to come to NY in the first place had Amare not signed here.

    • casualcommenter - Jul 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

      Completely agreed with this.

      I’m not a Knicks fan, but I’ve noticed that a lot of non-Knicks fans have forgotten that Amar’e in his first season with NY looked more than capable of living up to that deal.

      The problem in my opinion is that while, like the Heat’s LeBron and Wade, the skillsets of both Melo and Amar’e overlapped, LeBron and Wade are more versatile players. Amar’e and Melo are guys who pretty much earned their money by being elite scorers.
      That makes it hard for either to contribute in other ways when they’re not shooting the basketball.

    • badintent - Jul 12, 2013 at 3:32 AM

      Dead on.But I still worry about that microfraction surgery, it’s an art form, not science . Like most back surgeries.

  6. savtom - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Great paying Part Time job…

  7. caeser12 - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    It’s Mike “I haven’t got a clue” Woodson that needs a minutes limit as Head Coach. The team needs an OFFENSIVE Guru to make this work, Mr. “Switch on D, Give the ball to Melo, and Let J.R. Smith shoot.” is not going to get them where they want to go. Go NY.

    • cantonbound13 - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:39 PM

      They should have hired Jerry Sloan.

      • jimeejohnson - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:25 PM

        Wonder why Clyde Walt Frazier isn’t in the mix.

  8. readysethike - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    brandon jennings a few years ago in the draft wanted to play for NY and was mad they didn’t draft him. how about a phone call to the Bucks to see what it would take to get him. he’s a slight upgrade over Felton at least.

    Stoudemire for Gooden & Jennings and a future first round pick?

    • rushbacker - Jul 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM

      LMAO! More like you’re going to have to give up firsts to get anyone to take that contract.

    • Kevin S. - Jul 12, 2013 at 5:43 AM

      Even if that wasn’t a horribly one-sided trade for NY, the Knicks can’t received a signed-and-traded player.

  9. Jorge Lancerio - Jul 11, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    They have to have minutes for Bargnani. Who else can they take them from?

  10. cnyphinfan - Jul 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    More demanded of Melo……..I would not be the least bit surprised if he gets hurt……it is bound to happen playing 35+ minutes per game…….many of them at PF……..I hope that when it happens it happens early…….then we can stink and get Wiggins!
    Then we can trade STAT’s expiring deal next year and bring back more pieces with Wiggins and Melo!

  11. delusionalcardsfan - Jul 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    And the Suns are better off with that contract!

  12. foreveraknick - Jul 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    I can tell some of you guys are not real fan of basketball because if you were you would know melo has made it pass the first round serval times even taking the Denver nuggets the the western conference finals so before you talk trash about my favorite player please get your facts straight. Melo is going bring a championship to New York so mark my words #dont believe me just watch

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