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Report: Hawks not thinking Ellis/Jennings, deciding whether to match Teague offer

Jul 11, 2013, 4:24 PM EDT

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The second that Jeff Teague signed a four-year, $32 million offer sheet with Milwaukee Bucks — something that was agreed to last night but may not have been formally signed until this morning according to some reports — he could no longer be signed and traded.

Which means the days of discussions between the Hawks and Bucks about a potential sign-and-trade involving either Monta Ellis or Brandon Jennings for Teague were toast.

So the Hawks have moved on, past Ellis and Jennings, to the question of whether to match the offer or not, reports Chris Broussard of ESPN.

If the Hawks let him walk they could still land Jennings or Ellis via free agency. Jennings is a restricted free agent (meaning the Bucks could match an offer, although if they get Teague it is unlikely). Ellis has fired his agent as a result of his not finding a good landing spot on the open market (remember he turned down three years, $36 million from the Bucks to see what the market would offer him, and it’s not been pretty.

If I were the Hawks I would match. Jennings is tempting because he is so much more athletic than Teague, but he doesn’t finish well when he does get in the lane, he settles for too many bad shots, and he is a disinterested defender. Teague can be unspectacular but he makes better decisions, assisted on a higher percentage of his teammates shots, and Teague is more effective on the defensive end.

We’ll see what the Hawks will do.

  1. Jorge Lancerio - Jul 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Teague is solid albeit unspectacular. That’s sort of the theme in Atlanta. They need a true difference-maker in my opinion. Smith was not the guy, and they’re smart to have let him go. I wouldn’t be mad at them for keeping Teague. He’s gotten better every season to this point and has proven that he can handle the team.

    • bobulated - Jul 11, 2013 at 5:52 PM

      Would also like to see what Teague could do in a Tony Parker like role; IMHO Drew never let him play wide open which made Drew lusting after Teague now that he’s the coach of the Bucks that much odder to me.

  2. loubearkane - Jul 11, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    What do Jennings & Ellis do now? Dallas only team with room for 1? Ellis should take vet min. for being silly and not taking the deal when offered. Does LA , Chicago , SA offer a 1 year deal so they can showcase for next year

  3. bellerophon30 - Jul 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Monta Ellis is a wonderful cautionary tale, someone to be talked about for a long time in players’ and agents’ circles.

    Brandon Jennings………can he still sign his qualifying offer? Sounds like that’s his best play if it’s still available.

    • bougin89 - Jul 12, 2013 at 9:56 AM

      Yes he still can. That would be the second best scenario for the Bucks. Letting him walk or doing a sign and trade now would be the best scenario. If he signs his qualifying offer he will automatically get a no-trade clause which will really limit the Bucks choices(it would be up to Brandon) and their leverage in trade talks.

      • bellerophon30 - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM

        Then again, does he want to be 2nd string to Jeff Teague? Could be he should just sign a one year deal with Utah (who has cap space) and try again next summer.

        Ellis is done making big money. Wouldn’t shock me if he sues that former agent for costing him so much money. Of course ultimately it was Monta’s decision…….but that won’t stop the lawsuit.

      • bougin89 - Jul 12, 2013 at 5:33 PM

        Under that scenario Jennings would lose his bird rights which could be a big loss for him(and also assuming we don’t match). IDK. Sign and trade seems more and more likely if the Bucks actually get Teague.

  4. boscoesworld - Jul 11, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    I guess the Bucks are not quite as stupid as Yahoo and others think. With the bad attitudes gone the team may actually play like a team again. Reddick although not a head case normally, was with the Bucks. Jennings and Ellis? Good riddance.

  5. wisportsfanpbbb - Jul 11, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    As a Bucks fan I really hope the Hawks don’t match Teague’s offer. That would be just the ammunition Jennings needs to try to get more $ out of the Bucks.

  6. readysethike - Jul 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Teague is a tough guard, and he’s improved every year, compared to Jennings, i think your somewhat going to get about the same production, but what matters here is potential, and i think Teague has more potential. i think the Hawks should keep Teague

    but what are the hawks trying to accomplish, losing Smith and gaining Milsap isn’t putting that over the top, and its not moving Horford back to the 4 spot.

    • loubearkane - Jul 11, 2013 at 5:35 PM

      Right , what’s the goal? Is it doing a Boston and gaining assets and players for the future. I like Milsap but the team as is now will probably fight for the 8 spot. Josh Smith you could of traded the last two years and got something. Schroeder looks like a good young player. Eyes are on Hortford , probably the most under rated big man in the game. All goes well and you are looking at 2015-2016 – 2016-2017 as the years you will see big improvement , is Hortford in the long term plans , would think you could get a lot for him.

  7. wwttww - Jul 11, 2013 at 5:05 PM


  8. Uptown Murf - Jul 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Here in Atlanta, I hate to say it, it’s ask about star power. Teague is my favorite player on the team, but he’s not a major attraction on any level. To get the fans remotely interested, the Hawks need a player with name recognition. Jennings provides that. You can’t have Al Horford be the premier attraction in a wishy washy city like ours. Better bring in Monta or Jennings regardless…Although Teague is the more effective and quality player. I understand the business aspect of it.

  9. 00maltliquor - Jul 11, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Hawks saw the contract and said, “Hmmmm…not bad, not bad. ”

    Teague is the less splashy name but gives you almost about the same production with less headache. And at least a $4 mill cheaper price tag. Bet they take him back.

    • bougin89 - Jul 12, 2013 at 9:58 AM

      Terrible contract for the Hawks. They should just let him walk. They should sign Jennings he’s way better.

      -Bucks fan

  10. 00maltliquor - Jul 11, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    LOL @ Ellis turning down that MIL offer thinking someone was gonna offer him more, then firing his agent!! Bwaahahaha!! He should fire himself!

  11. advobear - Jul 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    I think getting settled at Center is more important

  12. scdocal - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    My only problem with Teague is he has some attitude issues and can sometimes be a turnover machine. He has a ton of potential but can be sloppy

  13. mannyicey - Jul 12, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    If you trade Teague for Jennings, that’s a bad trade. Teague has a better upside than Jennings and beats him all the time- head-to-head. Jennings AND Monta Ellis may be interesting, though. But you would have to sign the offer sheet.

    If you let Teague walk, you are left with a glaring need for a Point Guard, and you would have let the best one left in the market walk away for nothing in return. Again, you do this only if you are certain to get both Jennings AND Ellis if you let Teague walk.

    Either way it goes, you gotta either keep Teague (which I think they would do) or get Jennings and Ellis. There are no other options here.

    • 00maltliquor - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM

      Glaring need at PG? Newly drafted, future 2014 R.O.Y. PG Dennis Schroeder may have something to say about that….

      • mannyicey - Jul 15, 2013 at 5:58 AM

        So you’ll make some 19 year-old kid from Germany your starting PG? Are you insane???

        You don’t even know if his game would even translate to the NBA! He’s not even been proven tough enough physically or mentally to play in the NBA! The kid doesn’t even have a pull-up jump shot yet!

        Let him get some playing time in the NBA to see what he can do before you start giving him the reigns of the team.

  14. bougin89 - Jul 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    If the Hawks truly wanted Jennings over Teague(I’m not saying they do/should) but if they let Teague go to the Bucks there is next to zero leverage for Jennings and his agent. I bet the Hawks could go to him and say “Look, nobody else wants you. Sign the Bucks qualifying offer or you can take this deal: 4 years 30 million with a player option in year 4.”

    Wouldn’t Jennings have to strongly consider that?

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