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Report: Pistons want to trade for Rajon Rondo, Rudy Gay

Jul 2, 2013, 7:07 PM EDT

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The Pistons have two of the NBA’s most promising big men, Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe, and they’ve cleared more than $20 million in cap space this summer. They’re definitely in position to make a jump to the playoffs, which is what general manager Joe Dumars probably needs in the final season of his contract, if all goes well.

But the plan hit a snag when so many of the top available free agents ended up being power forwards and centers.

The Pistons are pursuing Andre Iguodala, but it sounds like it will be difficult to outbid the Nuggets. Josh Smith can play small forward, and he’s reportedly Detroit’s top target, but he’s a better power forward. Otherwise, the many of the best remaining free agents – Dwight Howard (not going to Detroit, anyway), Andrew Bynum and Paul Millsap – won’t work with Drummond and Monroe.

So, rather than overpay middling perimeter players in free agency, the Pistons might try to trade for a, in the eyes of some, more prestigious guard or small forward. Ken Berger of CBSSports.com:

the Pistons were among the first teams to reach out to the Celtics and express interest in acquiring Rondo, the All-Star point guard who is coming off an ACL injury, league sources told CBSSports.com. Having already made lucrative pitches to free agents Josh Smith and Andre Iguodala, Pistons president Joe Dumars also has registered interest in Raptors forward Rudy Gay, one source said.

The Pistons could use their cap room to take one the Celtics’ bad contracts (Gerald Wallace and maybe Courtney Lee), so Detroit would have to give up fewer positive assets for Rondo. Still, Monroe would likely have to be involved for Boston to have interest, though trading Monroe wouldn’t be as detrimental if the Pistons sign Smith. Of course, that’s also predicated on Danny Ainge changing from his public stance of keeping Rondo.

Gay himself has negative value, and that trade just sounds like Dumars asking for trouble. The Pistons reportedly tried to get Gay before Toronto did, but with Masai Ujiri now running the Raptors, Gay could be on the block again. Gay might become the go-to wing scorer the Pistons think they need, but he’s inefficient and wildly overpaid.

There are no perfect options for Detroit this summer, and a more patient route would probably be ideal. But with Dumars’ job on the line, I doubt that happens.

The Pistons are clearly trying to upgrade their talent this offseason, and, for better or worse, Rondo and/or Gay would accomplish that.

  1. papacrick - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Rondo throwing lobs to Drummond sounds good to me. Trade Monroe and sign Smith and the Pistons are rollin again

    • moseskkim - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:07 PM

      Actually sounds like a sweet plan

      • turdfurgerson68 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:11 PM

        No, it isn’t at all….its 100% conjecture by Feldman.

        Sorry to the rest of thr NBA, Ainge WILL NOT be trading Rondo to simply help dump bad contracts.

        Sorry, ain’t gonna happen.

  2. halfbaht - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    As great as the idea of Monroe in a Celtics jersey is, it’s not worth it at the expense of rondo

    • kingbeason52 - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:07 PM

      I know I cannot believe the hate Rondo receives…He puts up crazy numbers and is the only PG who can actually rebound..I think because of his poor attitude and shooting he gets devalued..

      • blueballzny - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:15 PM

        You think so??? Lol

      • money2long - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:49 PM

        “You don’t want Rondo? Send him my way,” Kobe declared. “I love everything about him. Everything. I love his attitude, I love his chippiness, his edge, his intellect, his know-it-allness. All of it. That’s what makes championship players.

        “What guard have you seen at his size that will get you 18 assists, 17 boards and 20 points all in one game? That’s unheard of. I love that kid. I always make a point of talking to him during All-Star [Weekend]. He’s one of my favorites.”

      • shanelsweet - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:08 AM

        If by poor attitude you mean that his teammates and coach don’t like working with him, then I agree.

    • jusdre313 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:30 PM

      meh i disagree like the old saying goes “you cant teach height” . Gordon is a good player and is only going to get better. Plus Rando (who is a beast) is still coming off that injury

  3. jpizzle227 - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    They wanna trade for rondo and Rudy gay ? So do a lot of teams.

  4. 13arod - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    If they get rondo and gay they will be contenders for sure

  5. chicagofan - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Why would the Celtics trade their point guard? It was clear in the NY playoff series that neither Bradley nor Lee could not play the point effectively at the playoff level. Indiana narrowly lost to Miami because of their weakness at the point–note how hard it was for them to get the ball to Hibbert down low. Parker was nursing an injury in the playoffs and maybe that’s why Pop- stupidly– rested him at crunch time and it cost them game 6 and the title. You need a real point guard to compete for the title–even if that is 2-3 yrs from now/Rondo is still young. Why with the Celtics throw that away? If they dump Rondo, I will not renew my season tickets again.

    • jaerba - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      The only reason I can think of would be his attitude, and his frustration with the team sucking for the next two years. Rondo is basically the only way the C’s can dump Wallace’s and Humphries’s terrible contracts, and they’ll suck if they don’t. If Rondo is frustrated or angry, there’s a possibility he doesn’t re-sign when his contract expires and the C’s are finally done rebuilding.

      It’s still a risky proposition for the C’s, but as a Pistons fan I hope they do. :P

    • turdfurgerson68 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:12 PM

      Exactly.

  6. danielgmz - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    I’m a Celtic fan, but if we’re gonna go in rebuild mode, I don’t think Rondo can be THAT guy… we might as well trade him and start with another solid piece. I don’t think he can be the central piece.

  7. sawick48 - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    you want rondo? awesome. we want drummond. deal? lol

  8. titansbro - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    I’d deal Rondo. He’s a coach killer.

  9. bifford - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Rudy Gay would be better fit than Josh Smith.

  10. sportsnut101 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Why would jsmooth play in Detroit might as well stay with hawks who make playoffs every yr

    J

  11. jaerba - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Please, please, please don’t sign Gay. :|

  12. tcclark - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    If Boston were smart they’d make a trade for Drummond not Monroe. Monroe is the better player, but Drummond is the better prospect. Shedding Rondo and Gerald Wallace and getting back Drummond would put them at the bottom of the league with no where to go but up. Right now, Rondo makes them too good to be terrible and Monroe would do the same. You can’t just be bad in the NBA in order to rebuild, you need to be awful. The Celtics need to find a way to be awful in order to rebuild that roster. Andrew Wiggins and Andre Drummond could be nasty.

    Of course, I’m a Sixers fan so naturally I want them to keep Rondo. Wiggins is ours. Win a bunch of games with your good point guard

    • jusdre313 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:28 PM

      dude no way the pistons would trade BOTH of them.. i dont even like the idea of trading Gordon. Pistons should make those 2 untradeable

    • senorpapino - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:10 PM

      0 chance. Drummond is the only player on the Pistons who is untouchable.

      • tcclark - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:56 PM

        That’s what everyone thought about Jrue Holiday in Philly. Or what about Thomas Robinson? Who would have thought that the 5th overall pick would be on his 3rd team in a year? We’re talking about trading Rajon Rondo. I think Detroit would prefer to move Monroe, but if they’re in win now mode, Monroe has to be their guy. trading Drummond would be better for both teams

  13. beachcomber2020 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Rondo probably has topped off. He has had three of the best teammates that a young guard could of had to start a NBA career. He did become one of the best point guards. But with his attitude…his injury question…his overall poor shooting…and his lack of defensive intensity at times…it might be time to take a look at taking the Celtic overall to the complete level. He could actually have HIS time now to be the one, and mature into the player the team had hoped…but I’m not sold on that. His play is just too out of control at times. And now with no one to keep him in line, or try to at least, saying goodbye would be the choice in my opinion.

  14. skinsfanwill - Jul 2, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    You guys sound stupid with all this Drummond talk. The same talk I heard about Serge Ibaka. And the same mistake is about to be made. Monroe is the best thing that has happened to Detroit in years. No way you get rid of him for anybody. A solid post player is almost unheard of, but very important. Drummond can’t hit a free throw, has no post game, and really doesn’t understand the game. Josh Smith is a lazy bum who’s game hasn’t gotten any better since he’s been in the league. Dumars is known for dumb moves, but Monroe wasn’t one of them. He better keep him.

    • anonymousrm - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM

      Ben Wallace couldn’t hit a free throw and look at how valuable he was in his prime. Drummond is the next Rodman/Wallace type of player. That’s why he’s untouchable.

  15. rahulsharma519 - Jul 2, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Even if pistons get Gay and he doesn’t work out for them, they can still use the amnesty clause that they still have and have the cap space for next years free agents, so overall i like where the team is going

    • Kurt Helin - Jul 3, 2013 at 7:25 AM

      Gay cannot be amnestied, not by Toronto or any other team. The only players who can be amnestied were ones under contract from before the lockout and then by the team that had them when the lockout ended. Gay was traded.

  16. ruemie - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    They won’t trade Monroe or Drummond this offseason. Knight is definitely on the table. If it were Knight, one of this years rookies (Mitchell, Siva), a big expiring deal like Charlie V or Stuckey and a future 1st rounder, who wouldn’t do it?

    If I were the Joe D, I’d do anything I could to pair Rondo, Gay, Drummond and Monroe for this year. It’s his last shot.

    • lavoysboy - Jul 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM

      If they could get Rondo and Gay that will be one the best possible offseasons for Detroit. Realistically I can only see them bringing in one superstar. I think they should bring on Josh Smith. Even though he turns the ball over a ton, but so does Gay. A 3-4-5 with adding Gay or Smith would be huge for this team. The question is at the guard spot with a young Brandon Knight, who still has potential (give him at least one more year), and a young caldwell-pope. But if they sign rondo, I don’t see them making any progress. Who is going to stretch the floor? It is not like Rondo can shoot, teams just back off of him. If they sign Rondo, Detroit needs to sign a bunch of three point shooters to space the floor (which they don’t really have at the moment). If you just have Rondo, it is going to get really crowded in the paint and there will be less room for Rondo to operate. Plus, you don’t know how people recover from torn ACLs, Rondo may not be as good when he comes back.

  17. 00maltliquor - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    “Gay himself has negative value…”

    That’s enough, would you stop the Gay bashing! The kids a baller.

  18. thebear1961 - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Joe Dumars would be best served to remember his last huge mistake. Right now he’s again building a winner in Detroit. He did that once before but threw it all away on Dakar when he could’ve taken Carmelo. Now he’s in position to just be patient. The BEST option is to pick up Rip Hamilton who the Bulls are releasing. Hamilton’s a proven winner, knows Detroit’s system and can help the young guys learn how to win. You give up NEITHER Drummond or Monroe, you keep your money and by next year there will be better options and the Pistons will be more attractive to free agents.

  19. dezglobal - Jul 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Even is he gets Gay and Rondo along with keeping Monroe and Drummond its time for a change in Detroit. Joe D drafted Darko over Wade, Melo and Bosh people… Darko…. We don’t forget.

  20. brt653 - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    In tnis frenzied market, sad to say, but NO ONE is safe! The teams that are blowing it all up will be playoff bound in 4 to 6 years and be the new winners. The temas that are trading up (Nets) will be champions soon. I see Brooklyn winning it next year now, while Boston in about 4 years (Davis got that 6 year deal for a reason you know: His wife is a lawyer and negotiated his deal!). The league is in a state of flux and its a good thing, just like when it happens in big corporations.

    • brt653 - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:05 PM

      Sorry, STEVENS n ot DAVIS (Gotta get that name down and used to it!!)

  21. caleb2711 - Jul 10, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    I personally believe now that the pistons have acquired josh smith there is no chance of this trade or signings to happen because they look like a play off team if they set their roster up like this

    Point Guard: Brandon Knight
    Shooting guard : Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    Small Forward : Josh smith
    Power Forward : Greg Monroe
    Center: Andre Drummond
    With Key Bench players being : Peyton Siva, Tony Mitchelle, Will Bynum, Jason maxiel, Kyle Singler, Kim English and Khris middleton

  22. ProBasketballPundit - Jul 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Rudy Gay and Josh Smith would explode into a black hole of long range low percentage jumpers. Not a good match.

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