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Report Nuggets want out of 27 pick, others in 20s want out, too

Jun 24, 2013, 3:25 PM EDT

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If a team drafts a player in the first round of the NBA, they are basically locked into him for at least a couple years and maybe four our more if they like him.

But if you don’t like the guy, that’s guaranteed money and a roster spot that could be used better elsewhere.

Which is why the Denver Nuggets are looking to move their No. 27 pick, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports. And the Nuggets are not alone.

Look at the guys going in the mid-to-late 20s and you have Tony Mitchell, Jeff Withey, Lucas Noqueira and other guys you may well not want on the roster in three years. Yes, some of these guys will pan out into solid players, but there is more risk in this group this year than in most, and GMs are risk averse in these kinds of situations.

Which is to say, expect a lot of trades as we move on in the first round of Thursday night’s NBA Draft.

  1. fanofevilempire - Jun 24, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    maybe they should draft the top ten players and call off the rest of the draft.
    you mean to tell me we can’t even produce basketball players in America.

  2. htownred34 - Jun 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    This years draft is pretty bad, but next years draft looks really good so far…

    • denverhoopdreams - Jun 24, 2013 at 4:47 PM

      Sad thing is we say this every year 😦

  3. brotherlove2012 - Jun 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    So it means that no rookies after the first ten draftees are better than an 11-12 bench player on any NBA teams … If it’s the case, this is truly an horrible draft class.

  4. pmx8411 - Jun 24, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    this draft…..role players galore

  5. titansbro - Jun 24, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    If its this hard to get good players in the first round the something is wrong with the sport.

  6. nygiantstones - Jun 24, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Is the NBA like the NFL where you can just not pick and lose your pick?

    • Anoesis - Jun 25, 2013 at 1:33 AM

      It should be. I suppose if the league allowed teams to pass this draft might go on for a month.

  7. cantonbound13 - Jun 24, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Kids grow up & play football now. That’s why the NBA is so watered down. The drafts have been weak the last 5 plus years.

    • Anoesis - Jun 25, 2013 at 2:05 AM

      2009: Blake Griffin, James Harden, Tyreke Evans, Ricky Rubio, Jrue Holiday, Ty Lawson, Taj Gibson
      2010: John Wall, Evan Turner, DeMarcus Cousins, Paul George
      2011: Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams, Brandon Knight, Klay Thompson, Kawhi Leonard
      2012: So many underclassmen were picked (first three were all freshmen and no senior until Tyler Zeller at 17) it would be hard to make any judgment calls this early in their careers.

      Just a small sample. Many players drafted in the last five years came out of college early and it will take time to see how they develop. All-in-all, though, I wouldn’t call those drafts “weak,” at least not compared to this year.

    • 00maltliquor - Jun 25, 2013 at 2:31 AM

      Nah man…there are some down years like this one. It happens every now and then. The NFL had a somewhat down year this draft too. NFL doesn’t have fully guaranteed contracts and the careers are much, much shorter, with WAAAYYY less pay. If a young man has a chance to go pro in either sport, he’d better pick up the rock and drop the pigskin!

  8. sportsnut101 - Jun 24, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    If no team makes the trade for ur pick Just don’t pick n forfeit it. What’s the big deal u didn’t want the pick anyway.

  9. tcclark - Jun 24, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    I feel like I keep hearing the sentence “This years draft is weak, but next year’s is going to be really deep.” I’ve been hearing that for years now. We haven’t had a good draft since the point guard draft of ’09. 2010 was ok, but otherwise they’ve just been abysmal. The problem is not that basketball is becoming less popular and kids are playing football instead. The problem is twofold.

    One, the NBA is designed for stars. David Stern has made it clear that he wants star players in this league so at most their are 30 stars in the NBA (clearly not every team has one, but some have more than one). If there are only 30 stars in this league, than all of the drafts are going to be filled with role players. The Heat have no ability to draft a star because they have no ability for a player to develop into a star. Players need the ball in order to dominate. With teams driven by star players the ball is pretty hard to come by. Players need an opportunity to become great players. They don’t get that opportunity in a league that is run by the 30 best players in the world.

    The other part of the problem is that kids are coming out of college too early. As I said before, player need time to develop into stars. They have that opportunity in college, but instead they choose to come to the NBA where they have little to no opportunity to develop. These drafts are full of raw question marks. No one knows how good Nerlens Noel is going to be or Alex Len or Ben Maclemore. They need to stay in school and learn the fundamentals. shooting is a lost art in the NBA. Players get by on athletisim and their ability to drive the lane, where as guys line Michael Jordan, Clyde Drexler, and even Allen Iverson used their polished midrange game to open up the lanes for their drives.

    The NBA is a pisspoor sports league driven by money. The quality of the drafts have gone down because the quality of the league is so bad. They need to extend the draft age and create a fairer league. Get rid of star treatment and the iso plays at the end of the game. Lets advertise the Pacers and Spurs of the league. I want to see good teams, not good players. Basketball when done right is one of the finest artforms known to man. When a play is run perfectly that gives a player an easy basket it is just beautiful. These “stars” are killing the league. I hate watching a starless team work it’s butt off to score and then watch Lebron go iso on the wing with almost no defensive pressure because any contact with his skin is an automatic foul. That’s not beautiful. that’s boring. It’s basically watching Lebron play in his backyard by himself and he’s gotten this treatment since he’s entered the league.

    College used to build stars for the NBA. Now that’s the media’s job. Sorry that i’m not sorry about the rant. The NBA needs fixing

    • eventhorizon04 - Jun 25, 2013 at 6:24 AM

      You’re right.

      The NBA has “become” a star-driven league.

      There was no emphasis on stars before the past few years.

      Michael Jordan? Magic Johnson? Larry Bird?

      A bunch of no-namers.
      /rolls eyes

      • tcclark - Jun 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM

        You realize David Stern has been commissioner since 1984 right? His emphasis on stars happened a long time ago, but now it’s to the point where the stars run the league. Don’t put words in my mouth.

    • eventhorizon04 - Jun 25, 2013 at 6:27 AM

      P.S. As a percentage of plays per game, isos have GONE DOWN in the past decade, with pick-and-rolls increasing. The reason for that is the defensive rule changes in the early 2000’s that allow teams to play mixed man-zone defenses (perfected by coaches like Tom Thibodeau) which force teams to swing the ball to the weakside to get open shots.

      But since you apparently don’t think late-game isos happened in the 1990s, it’s clear you have no idea what you’re talking about.

      • tcclark - Jun 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM

        P.S show me the quote where I say that there weren’t isolations at the end of games in the 90s. Jordan won 6 championships on isolations. And as exciting as those were. It makes much more sense to run a play at the end of the game than just give it to your best player and have him shoot out of rhythm. Greg Popovich has made a living setting up easy baskets at the end of games for players to win the game. They’re beautiful and I’m not even a Spurs fan.

        If you can honestly tell me that you think the NBA is a great league, we can stop this argument and agree to disagree, but I can’t imagine anyone feeling that way. Only 7 teams in the past 30 years have won an NBA championship. In contrast the NHL has had 16 in the same time period, the MLB has had 19, and the NFL has had 15. The NBA is a league where 77% of the league doesn’t even have a chance to win a championship. The NBA playoffs are a joke and a team like the Nuggets have been stuck in a situation where they’re too good to get better, but not good enough to win. let me repeat that, “too good to get better.” This team has been around since the ABA and is still waiting for its first championship. That is ridiculous. Let’s change the NBA for the better. Let’s not let 30 players out of 450 dictate how the league is run.

  10. Anoesis - Jun 25, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    The ’13 draft might be a lucky one for a bunch of guys, while some GMs will think the opposite. I’d like to believe the Lakers knew this when they traded their first-round pick away, but I’m pretty sure Jim Buss isn’t that smart. Kupchak maybe, but not Jim-boy.

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