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Celtics stuck in limbo without Clippers trade

Jun 18, 2013, 2:07 PM EST

Doc Rivers, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce

If the Celtics-Clippers trade is indeed dead – and like Kurt, I have my doubts – the offseason doesn’t get any easier for the Celtics. Boston is obviously ready to move on from Kevin Garnett and Doc Rivers, at least if it nets a certain combination of DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe and first-round picks and the removal of Jason Terry or Courtney Lee.

But has bringing back Rivers and Garnett become preferable to the next alternative, whatever that is?

This trade could have determined the Celtics’ entire direction as a franchise. Now, Boston must regroup and evaluate its course. Persuade Rivers, who’s obviously leery of rebuilding, to come back? Convince Garnett, who’s considering retirement, to make another run? Keep Pierce, trade him or buy out his partially guaranteed contract?

The catalyst seems to be Rivers, and the Celtics are making their preference clear. Baxter Holmes of The Boston Globe:

That’s a risky choice, because Rivers could face difficulties coaching players who just received a clear indicator Rivers doesn’t want to coach them. But he’s also a highly respected coach whose best attribute is building relationships with his players.

Of course, Rivers also has a say in whether he’ll coach the Celtics next season. Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports:

After talks in a blockbuster deal fall apart over draft pick compensation, Doc Rivers is unsure about returning to the Boston Celtics as coach, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Tuesday.

The Celtics and Rivers planned to reach a final resolution in the next few days, sources said.

As one source tied to Boston ownership and Rivers said, “You don’t just move on from this and act like nothing happened.”

If Rivers returns, the Celtics should probably push for Garnett and Pierce to return. Once Rajon Rondo gets healthy, that’s likely a team still capable of winning a playoff series, and that would be a fairly satisfying season. Rebuilding can always wait a year.

If Rivers sits out next season, hoping Garnett retires from his big contract and then buying out or trading Pierce might become a better plan. That would give the Celtics flexibility to rebuild around Rondo and Jeff Green, but that plan would work work much better with DeAndre Jordan and an extra first-round draft pick in tow.

That’s why the Celtics have incentive to re-engage the Clipper in trade talks. The alternatives without it just aren’t as appealing and will require some difficult decisions.

  1. blakegriffin32 - Jun 18, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    It’s in both teams best interest to make the trade. More so for the C’s.

    I hope something fair for both teams occurs.

    • sportsnut101 - Jun 18, 2013 at 3:19 PM

      What a dumb comment

      Why is it in clips best interest to pay 13 mil for garnett n 7 mil for rivers to coach n also give up on a young center n also give up 2 first rd picks. How does that benefit clips

      Now if it’s Jordan 1 1st rd pick for garnett n Avery Bradley n coach that might be a better fair value trade

      Otherwise clips move on n see if u can get Dwight in sign n trade for griffin n Bledsoe otherwise get other parts that fit a team not 7 guards with no inside threat reg season different from playoffs

      Just don’t sign josh smith

      • fanofevilempire - Jun 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM

        I like the Blake, Bledsoe deal for Howard in a sign and trade.

    • badintent - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM

      Danny for a bag of Dog food and six pack of Colt 45. Fair Trade approved, Fair value , and non toxic

  2. philswfc08 - Jun 18, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    I’m confused as to why the clippers were even considering this trade…

    • zacksdad - Jun 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM

      Because CP3 wants center that wants to win. Also he wants a coach that can demand respect out of the other players. Sterling already fired Del Negro for CP3. CP3 just wants to win.

  3. zacksdad - Jun 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    I bet you CP3 is also pissed. He may sign somewhere else just to spite them. He did not like the Del Negro, DeAndre, or Blake. The coach could not get the most out of Blake and DeAndre. Blake and DeAndre only cared about having fun.

    Let’s see how well the Clippers are without CP3. Unless Stern nads out another freebie to the Clippers.

    Sterling being Sterling…

  4. chargerdillon - Jun 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    How are they stuck in limbo, they’re either a bad team with Doc Rivers and KG.

    OR!

    They’re a bad team without Doc Rivers and KG.

    Either way they’re an old team with a one legged malcontent point guard.

    If anybody sees them as anything more than a midlevel playoff team you’re kidding yourselves. And just so I’m being fair, that’s still better than my dumpsterfire-Lakers, but it’s not much.

    • antihypocritz - Jun 18, 2013 at 4:23 PM

      What’s the average IQ of the commenters on this site? Is it really that hard to understand how they Celtics are stuck in limbo? The proposed trades were going to allow them to clear cap space and quickly move into rebuilding mode. No one expects them to contend next season. For christ sakes, trying thinking for once in your life.

      • antihypocritz - Jun 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM

        Oh not to mention, the draft picks..

        It’s probably too much to expect a dumbass Lakers fan to be able to think about anything.

      • chargerdillon - Jun 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

        You don’t make a move like this if you’re focused on rebuilding. Normally you rebuild with draft picks unless you’re the Lakers.

        The Celtics are desperate to return to midlevel mediocrity and doing or not doing this move puts them in the exact same place EITHER WAY.

        Which is my point here, whether something happens or nothing at all happens, they don’t have the talent to compete on a championship level. If they get rid of their coach, they get worse, if they get rid of their veteran talent they get worse, if they do nothing at all their veteran talent gets older and they get worse.

        To rebuild, they are going to have to start making a few good draft picks, and to trade for anybody who’s already good, they have to have a coach that veterans are willing to go to.

        Either situation puts them the same or worse. Does not take a whole lot of basketball IQ to do the math on that.

      • badintent - Jun 19, 2013 at 1:48 AM

        On PBT ,you must drink heavy or take Prozac, chillout ,or your blood pressure will do you in.lol

  5. sportsnut101 - Jun 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    I hate the diva stars who have to have input on who they play with

    If ur signed to a team ur job is to play for ur team listen to coach n make a suggestion it’s not demand u need these players

    Cp3 n d12 won’t win a title in west together ever heard of westbrook n durant. Which one of them is gonna cover these guys

    D12 is easy to cover and u can take him out of game by being physical another big man who doesn’t like contact. What a diva

    Cp3 u picked last yr team I think ur imput was enough. Where we’re u in 1st rd.

  6. halfbaht - Jun 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    I can’t believe people actually believe the celtics will get better by getting deandre Jordan. I’ll take KG and his old ass any day of the week thank you very much.

  7. pike573 - Jun 18, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    I’m a Celtics fan and this is a bad trade for the Clippers.

  8. loungefly74 - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Both the Celtics and Clippers just destroyed the locker room atmosphere…something needs to happens for both teams.

  9. hconspiracy - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:50 AM

    Rivers doesn’t want to be part of a rebuild programme, and Garnett was finished after last season…..! Ainge needs to realise that the Clippers are not the team of old where bad decisions were the norm when it came to draft choices and trades. They are not going to give up Bledsoe and 2 first round drafts aswell as Jordan, for Rivers and KG….which team would?

    I would take Jordan (bargaining tool for Cousins), and the first draft pick offer, then get the contracts of Lee and Terry off the books (or at least one of them).

    With regards to Pierce……I obviously applaud everything he has done for the C’s but shopping him around to a contender….get real! This is a business and Paul knows that….lets get some value out of this and maybe look at Jordan/Pierce trade to the Kings or other viable options…..

    • Kurt Helin - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM

      New Kings ownership is not moving Cousins.

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